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funny to see this thread come up; I bought WB:RMX on sight when I discovered it online the other day, and listened to it on saturday night.

It is terrible. They've carved up the original Warner Brothers Album tapes into horrible 4/4 loops, which they drop piecemeal & meaninglessly on top of some of the most tasteless drum loops imaginable. Like a drum library CDROM from 1999. Bad bad progressive house. It's a real disappointment. Two or three tracks are nearly okay, but it's so frustrating to have them put this out instead of the original tapes.

'Warner Brothers Album', is apparently a 40 minute edited tape with 39 songs on it, edited from long group jams. I haven't heard that, but have a cassette dub of a 60 minute master reel that obviously contains elements that ended up on it, their versions of 'strawberry fields forever', 'maggie's farm', 2 versions of 'i hear you got religion', 3 versions of 'oh mommy oh daddy can't you see that it's true', etc. It's one mic in a room catching them playing, no overdubs, then spliced together onto a master reel. And while the vocals are maniacal, the young singing resident in full force, what's interesting is how normal they sound; they're just a bunch of maniacs in san mateo in 1970 'freaking out'. It also puts the myth to the idea that they can't play their instruments; they're not 'tight', but the guy on guitar can play quite well. Clearly, they had two options; to tighten up further, or 'unlearn' their instruments and figure out how to play them in new ways. 'Warner Brothers Album' is for fanatics only, but there are a lot of Residents fanatics out there, and it's wonderful to hear the roots of the band. At least as valuable as hearing the Beatles Hamburg tapes. Even the 'Get Back' sessions.

'Baby Sex' is a different matter altogether. It is a masterpiece, as good as any of the released studio albums and it's kind of upsetting to me that they haven't released an intact edition of it yet. Sections of it have been released on various limited edition fan club CDs through the 90's (the two Liver discs, the Snakefinger tribute and the 'History Mystery' disc of 'Huddled Masses'.) 'Hallowed Be Thy Ween'.

Douglas says above that the Residents work are very inconsistent, but I don't think that's true at all; I think they were absolutely solid from 1972-1981, every album, every ep, every single. In 1981 two core members left, leaving only the singing resident and the composing resident, and a lot of new MIDI hardware and sampling synthesizers; from 1981 onward, the discography grows spotty and the album concepts obviously come before the production of the actual music, the music is manufactured to order as an afterthought.

I have heard just about all the later stuff. I still like parts of 'Tunes of Two Cities', the Sousa side of 'Stars n Hank Forever', and a few tracks from 'Our Finest Flowers'. The 2 CD set 'Live at the Fillmore' documents the 1997 25th anniversary concerts, and has superior live versions of things from 'freak show' and 'gingerbread man', and ends with their fairly incredible cover of 'We Are The World'. The 'Liver' series has some great 70's tracks.

The absolute best best thing they've done since 1981 was their tribute to Snakefinger, 'Snakey Wake'.

(Jon L), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

re-reading my post, I think it's a little harsh. Even today, it's still obvious that the person who wrote the main theme to 'Six Things to a Cycle' can still write some incredibly bizarre, unique and affecting melodies, even when they're sequenced out. And the singing resident is doing some of his best work these days; just as psychotic, and often much more profoundly moving.

oh, also any recording of the '13th Anniversary' show has good sections; generous helpings of Snakefinger. and the James Brown side of 'George and James' sounds _incredible_ when you play it at 45 rpm.

(Jon L), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

two last things: didn't mean to imply upthread that I've heard anything other than the officially released sections of 'baby sex'. Even just based on the fragments, it's clearly a masterpiece, and needs to come out.

also, wanted to make it clear that I'm not the person responsible for filesharing the WB album; I received the tapes with the promise not to copy them and I've complied. But I'm personally very happy they've turned up online.

(Jon L), Monday, 9 February 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I just recently watched the Demons Dance Alone DVD, and while it was very entertaining, I suspect from reading the program notes that the DVD might actually be better than the show was.

I saw them in I guess about 1990 on the King And Eye tour, which was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. I liked that album, too, but haven't heard it in about a decade. The Residents are a group I respect a lot, but hardly ever want to actually listen to for pleasure.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Monday, 9 February 2004 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree since '86 they've become much more of a multi-media band; so much of the energy of any one project is dedicated to the visual/performance aspect of the work, it's almost unfair to judge the records on their own (except for the fact that as albums they can't compete with the 1972-1981 stretch). The King And Eye tour ('Cube E') was incredible, and I really enjoyed the 25th anniversary show. I saw Wormwood on opening night and there were some technical difficulties.

also, their 90's CD ROMS set a very high, very strange standard for early interactive media.

(Jon L), Monday, 9 February 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a shame about WB:RMX totally sucking. Thanks for the info, milton, especially about the early stuff.

Man, those CD-ROMs blew my mind (well, Freak Show and Bad Day on the Midway; Gingerbread Man isn't as interesting). The story of Ted in Midway - making artificial moths out of detritus, wanting to destroy ugliness in the world, then eventually hanging himself because he concludes that he is part of the ugliness - I mean, good lord. Wow. (This is a game?). And the "Harry the Head" story and the Human Mole story in Freak Show...amazing. A disembodied head on the floor, painting angels on a woman's skirt with a paintbrush in his mouth - I like that.

milton wrote: from 1981 onward, the discography grows spotty and the album concepts obviously come before the production of the actual music, the music is manufactured to order as an afterthought.

Yes...and this is a HUGE philosophical shift, for the band. Their lyrical songwriting got better and better, but their music became a lower priority. The epitome of this is God in Three Persons, the lyrics of which are so meticulously written...but the music is probably the dullest and most uninspired of any Residents album. They had forgotten the "Theory of Phonetic Organization":

http://www.rzweb.net/collab/n-senada.html#phonetic

Quote: According to this theory the musician should put the sounds first, building the music up from them rather than developing the music then working down to the sounds that make it up.

You can easily imagine how this theory was used to make music in the earlier days, like "Smelly Tongues" or Eskimo.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"I confess to being one of those idiots who owns most of what they have done, but the last album I bought was "Freak Show", which is a while ago now."

You're missing a real return to form with Wormwood and Demons Dance Alone then - best stuff they've done (that I've heard) since The Commercial Album (except possibly God In Three Persons).

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got something like 6 or seven of their albums, and ultimately, while i'd say they're classic, would relegate even the best of their material into mixtapes amongst others. I'd say Eskimo is the only thing i can still listen to all the way through, and then, only on that "one" day amongst hundreds (or thousands).

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

In 1981 two core members left, leaving only the singing resident and the composing resident

Is that fact - because I think the singing Resident IS the composing Resident and that, musically, The Residents is now a one man band. In fact, I think what you have in The Residents now is the musical Resident and the design/multimedia Resident. I could be wrong of course.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Even I find "Commercial Album" a lot of fun ;)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

>Is that fact - because I think the singing Resident IS the composing Resident and that, musically, The Residents is now a one man band.

I can't be positive, but I'm pretty sure, both from reliable conversation and listening to the records. Listen to 'Stars and Hank' for the clearest example, it's basically a split solo album, each getting a full side.

put on WB:RMX again last night. it's not quite as terrible as I initially thought, it's just that the drum loops are so repellent I couldn't hear through them, there are some interesting things going on if you give it time. still, fans only.

(Jon L), Thursday, 12 February 2004 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

rereading the Phonetic Organization theory cements one thing though -- you're right, dadaismus, they certainly do belong on the musique concrete reference list, their theory's identical to Schaeffer's whole point about how composition can't begin until after you've chosen your sound objects.

from http://www.jahsonic.com/PierreSchaeffer.html

He also described the composer of musique concrete as one who"...Takes his point of departure the objets sonore, the sound objects, which are the equivalent of visual images, and which therefore alter the procedures of musical composition completely...The Concrete experiment in music consists of building sonorous objects, not with the play of numbers and seconds of the metronome, but with pieces of time torn from the cosmos." (3)

(Jon L), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

relistening to Fingerprince and Not Available today confirmed what i felt about Duck Stab and the Commercial album -- the residents are my favourite sounding band (re: the above-mentioned sound objects).

Those '70s albums seem to take apparently seperate 'tracks' within songs and use them as layers, and by then blurring them, twisting them, deftly tweaking the whole nervous system going right up and especially right down the octaves with those beautifully warm tones, these are masterful displays of synth playing, both virtuosity and creativity.

that those 'songs' can have very sharp noises and very curvy noises co-existing with so much else often going on in the mix, i say the residents were quite a way ahead of Kraftwerk (who spring to mind as aprox. peers). The Kraftwerk work rate just doesn't compare to the Residents. So many deft tweakings per song ! Such precision with bass width and sequencing. ! Humour ! Cultural critique ! One of the earliest 'indie' labels !

my point: Stereolab can get as much timbral twist, but they can't wrench as much humour or perversely human/ alien width-of-purpose out of the same machines.
That New Order became the poster people for the post-analog MIDI sound really evidences how retarded synth music became with the new polyphonic toys of the '80s. The wretched 'chorus' effect -- i first saw one on a synth on the Juno 6 and listening to that synth it really sounded like it sucked. Reverb and chorus and the implicit overtone rich chorus-like impact of polyphony itself, as used by Van Halen and New Order (two very similar sounding bands), these early '80s 'digital synth' moments, they have a tenth of the warmth and none of that continual musical rates-of-change sound that make the '70s residents records _the_ synth pop records for the technologies of the times, and still charming and unique (antique as any '60s psych band is saying nothing).

How ironic that people buy analog synths on eBay today precisely to try and regain that level of control the residents always had, and that the '80s and '90s were blighted by digital synths, with all the noises pretty much sounding the same, all the while the digital synths seen as 'progress'.
(or more importantly, except for a couple of brian eno records, there are no other '70s 'art pop' records containing the sheer sonic detail and invention of the residents artful displays of synth virtuosity and inspiration)

and if you can think of other music with as much timbral artfulness per-beat,
tell me about it please :
(here will do)

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 15 February 2004 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i'm wrong, there are plenty of other interesting synth bands, as though early synths more often turned up in more 'artie' bands in the '70s

somehow the residents got their records distributed. i suppose they were any early college radio favourite. if it is satire or parody, it's not as if that feels predominant or forced. it's nice to think of the residents existing out of CA in the US since the times of Nixon, and managing to annoy him. sound effects are a guilty pleasure, but i do find them danceable. the faster material is earlier in their career. i like that some of them have been around doing that in one form or another for this length of time. like some running gag. i think critics sometimes find it easier to beat up on things that are meant to be funny, but there is still generally goodwill for the residents, even if fans sometimes feel a little let down. i think there's enough fun stuff to happily outweigh their bad stuff.

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 15 February 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
New album "Animal Lover" due out in Feb. apparently.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 6 January 2005 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.residents.com/C1016472556/E14207023/Media/four-visionsweb.jpg

THE RESIDENTS
BRAND NEW ALBUM RELEASE
ANIMAL LOVER - OUT 14th FEBRUARY 2005

"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations." - Sigmund Freud

The Residents have announced details of a brand new album, their first for Mute, to be released on Valentine's Day 2005. "Animal Lover" follows the 25th Anniversary re-release of the Commercial Album in the Autumn of 2004.

When Charles Darwin first proposed in the late 1800's that homo sapiens had evolved from and were in fact a species of animal, many humans were horrified. Humans had an unusual need to feel superior, something their fellow animal associates had never quite understood. When Sigmund Freud, a few years later, destroyed the accepted opposition between sanity and madness by locating "normality" on a sliding scale, the poor humans were even more shocked. Taking a step beyond Darwin, Freud believed that the human was an animal in conflict, and informing the human of that very simple concept seemed to only increase the conflict.

In The Residents' "Animal Lover", the creatures who don't really mind if they are animals take an existential look at the upright animal whose normality is sliding toward the wrong end of the spectrum. The human beasts live in a world of primal darkness, their heads forever stuck in the ground like frightened ostriches living in a constant murky dream state.

In creating this picture book of animal tales, The Residents wanted to include a soundtrack that related directly to "animal love." The result is an imaginative CD whose rhythm tracks are based entirely on animal noise mating patterns generated primarily by cicadas and frogs. Also the actual sounds of mating whales and humans were used for longer tonal passages. They weren't mating with each other, by the way.

So the world is filled with tubular entities. Food goes in one end and shit comes out the other. Sperm goes in and babies come out. It's all we've got. That and love.

Animal Lover is released on Mute on 14th February 2005.

The Residents Bog

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 6 January 2005 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

OUR POOR OUR TIRED OUR HUDDLED MASSES is a 2-CD anthology that goes backwards chronologically (with a few jumps back to the future)(1996-1981 on Disc I; 1980-1972, Disc II), and just gets better and better! They must know this--musn't they? Their funniest mystery, that I know of. Iespecially like Eskimo Concentrate, a mix of that album's highlights; and also Fingerprince Concentrate (an album that UK punks liked, at least according to the annotator) Third Reich 'n' Roll Concentrate, plus tracks from Duck Stab/Buster+Glen, etc. I also thought they seemed like more of a band in the first decade, and I like the tracks from THE COMMERCIAL ALBUM, and note that their emthod of getting airtime by buying it (for commercials) is basically what 'independant promoters" did, especially with major label product, in 90s-00s, although Clear Channel claims to have stopped accepting such payments.

don, Friday, 7 January 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The strangest (and certainly the most irritating) thing about Our Poor Our Tired Our Huddled Masses is that the sleeve notes spend pages going on and on and on about the band's legendary and incredibly rare first single, "Santa Dog", and then immediately proceed to not include the the sodding thing on the comp., not even on the extended 4CD EuroRalph version!

Of course if the collection had been compiled more recently and included material from Demons Dance Alone and Wormwood (and also didn't fail to include anything from the God In Three Persons album, which is a strangely indefensible omission too imho) it might help to remedy the impression of the material gradually deteriorating in quality as you move backwards though time.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The liner notes do go on and on about that, yeah, and in general fit with the how-intentional-is-this bit mentioned aboove. But Stewart, your opinion is the reverse of mine: you think it gets *worse as goes backwards? So how would more recent music correct this impression, as you suggest? Is the more recent music so bad it makes the older stuff look better? From what I've heard of their more recent, I'd agree with you, in the sense that it would make the older sound *even better (too bad the very first WB-aimed demo, cited by Milton above, isn't here at the very end; might be best of all, is the logical implication of this comp as heard by me)

don, Friday, 7 January 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a 'WB Album Concentrate' floating around on the web, apparently assembled by fans... I've never heard it unfortunately, would like to.

I love the Concentrates on Our Huddled Masses (especially the one for Reich). The editing in some places is so dense that they almost qualify as new pieces. In any case the 4 CD version is worth $60 for the 15 minute excerpt from Baby Sex alone.

(Jon L), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

how coincidental.
When presenting a radio special on the residents (way before Our Huddled Masses ), chronologically presenting material from latest back to earliest seemed the right strategy for sufficiently more extreme and exciting radio, for build-up, for taking people to a place they could maybe only get to via the comparatively normal digital stuff.

george gosset (gegoss), Saturday, 8 January 2005 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

one of my best friends here in Nashville is a Residents freak, so I've endured them plenty. I do have "Commercial Album" and it's pretty good, and I actually like their version of "Viva Las Vegas" on their Elvis record.

That said, I think they're awful--I mean I have respect for anyone trying to do anti-music, and they succeed. But I don't mean it as a compliment; it's not only anti-music but anti-anti-music. I find them very, very puerile, and their later stuff seems infused with some sort of melancholia I don't think they earn at all. My buddy here listens to a lot of stuff I don't like, many things I do, and he's always draggin' out the Residents or the Firesign Theater (not the classic '60s stuff but their later shit, which is just actively unfunny). And I feel the same way about the Residents--they're not funny, their videos are totally geeky (except for the very early short ones), they're a total one-joke band. That whole thing with the eyeballs is just totally lame, they should've stopped that shit years ago. I think they're from Shreveport or somewhere--well, I say Louisiana's pop combo John Fred and His Playboy Band were both more avant-garde and certainly more listenable.

However, I kinda like "Eskimo," in a way; but none of it is anything I listen to for pleasure

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

as time goes on there's a greater 'succeed or fail' element to each successive residents project, anything new carrying the risk of comparison to classic original residents, 2 person residents, digital vs. analog, etc., any past residents stuff. I just think of all the work over the years as

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 9 January 2005 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

pray continue

Bumfluff, Sunday, 9 January 2005 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

roadworms was rad

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Eddie, they (the original they, anyway) are from Shreveport. When the relaunched villagevoice.com finally gets its whole archive back online, it should include the Primus review in which I comment on their Residents infuence/connection, and that experience (which I share with them) of struggling with a sense of isolated, reactionary origins. So rebellion and idealism can be tainted with a degree of keejerking against the original local overlord kneejerks. Even kneejerking *with the originals, ultimately. So the later Residents seem to buy into an oppressively overblown defintion of Real Art, not very different from the Biz Ideal they once rebelled against. Not to songle them out too much; "hardcore punks" could and can be just as reductive, for instance. And the Residents were inspirational to some underground bands of 80s Middle and East Europe (even after they heard other stuff!)

don, Sunday, 9 January 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Louisiana's pop combo John Fred and His Playboy Band were both more avant-garde and certainly more listenable."

Not to mention funnier. The Residents couldn't pull off "Judy in Disguise" if their eyeballs depended on it.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"funnier" seems wrong. More funny? Anyway none of the Residents parodies tickle my bones but ah, that probably isn't the point. Actually I've been approaching Frank Zappa lately, very cautiously, after a lifetime of avoidance. Maybe I'll end up a Residents head.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

zappa and residents are like the best music ever

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"they're a total one-joke band"

Obviously, they had a certain style. But that's an easy (and inaccurate) criticism that someone might make about any comedians that they didn't happen to like. I mean, if someone didn't like the Marx Brothers, couldn't they make the same allegation?

It's not true of the Residents, anyway. Just thinking of the first album, "Boots" is not the same joke as "Smelly Tongues," which is not the same joke as "Rest Aria," which is not the same joke as "Spotted Pinto Bean," which is not the same joke as "Seasoned Greetings," etc.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 9 January 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"Stewart, your opinion is the reverse of mine: you think it gets *worse as goes backwards?"

No, sorry, I just expressed myself badly - I think / agree that (with the notable exception of the album God In Three Person, which isn't represented on the comp.) there is a distinct overall downward trend between about 1980 and 1997 (when Our Tired Our Poor Our Huddled Masses came out)

"So how would more recent music correct this impression, as you suggest?"

I think 1998's Wormwood and 2002's Demons Dance Alone are major returns to form both in terms of both quality and "relevance" (or, at least, contemporaneity).

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 January 2005 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, there seems to be some deep dissatisfaction and angst beneath the later Residents recordings. As to the question of "one-joke," I mean the joke seems to be this singer drawling tunelessly over basic synthed-out non-melodic/rhythmic stuff, which just doesn't make me re-imagine the original stuff they cover or want to figure out what their "originals" mean. I guess I want more skill along with my insanity here, some reference point that shows the Residents are actually engaging with something rather than just making sloppy anti-music for whatever audience it is they have.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

well, they're not for everyone, but don't make the mistake of thinking their audience is only listening because they think it's a joke. 60% of why I listen to the Residents are their melodies, and much of the material 1972-1980 is in fact very difficult to play.

Early tapes make it clear that they actually can play instruments, they just made a point of taking instrumental technique apart at the exact moment the rest of pop was calcifying into stadium rock gloss & empty virtuosity. Taking the formulas of glossy, shallow pop, and making it all gloriously ugly and wrong, but still recognizable. And sometimes, so utterly, bafflingly wrong that it comes out far more mysterious and beautiful.

Beautiful Residents: Not Available, Eskimo and "Six Things To A Cycle", the main theme of which is probably my favorite thing they've ever done.

(Jon L), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

not to flog the dead horse but Cutler's article on the Residents is worth reading if you're still tempted to write the music off as a joke

http://www.theresidents.co.uk/articles/books/art_cutler.html

(Jon L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, that Cole Gagne book, Sonic Transports, is great. It's divided into four sections: one on the Residents, one on Fred Frith, one on Glenn Branca, and one on "Blue" Gene Tyranny. Horribly out of print, I'd imagine.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

'animal lover' is possibly the worst album i've ever heard

a, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Tell us more (including, if possible, some idea of what other albums you've heard and like / dislike).

An extraordinarily large number of people have described Trout Mask Replica as ".... possibly the worst album I've ever heard"; so it's entirely possible that - at least as far as I'm concerned - your description may be the highest possible accolade.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim! Please say more about Sonic Transports; that's really an interesting lineup (FOUR LIVES IN THE BEYOND BUSINESS?)

don, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonic Transports is a great read, very personal overviews followed by interviews of the artists (excepting, of course, the Residents). A massive senior thesis blown up into an independently published volume (8x11 typewritten pages, bound). The Blue Gene Tyranny chapter is still kind of the definitive study, many more details on the work than in other places (though William Duckworth's interview in Talking Music comes close)

It goes for upwards of $50 used when you can find it these days, I should have xeroxed my friend's copy...

http://www.rzweb.org/books/sonic.html

(Jon L), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks! So what is his main point re Residents?

don, Thursday, 20 January 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

just kind of a comprehensive study of the work... I remember it being nice to read detailed cross-references to specific works by both the Residents and Harry Partch from someone who was obviously intimately familiar with both

(Jon L), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Stewart - I haven't managed to make it past song number four yet... but list of complaints = awful songs, awful lyrics, awful concept. Incredibly irritating in every way. I'm a fairly hardened listener, so it's not too 'experimental'/out there for me (re: the Cptn Beefheart comparison). It just seems to be lazy, purile crap. (yes yes, I know I've only listened to a fragment of it so I'm being hypocritical, but it's so unbearable).

40-something rock critics are loving the album though, so who knows. (I don't think most Residents fans are 21 years old.)

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and other albums I've heard - Commercial Album and Eskimo. Like Eskimo, don't like Commercial Album. I'm not interested in the Residents at all, so you can basically completely disregard my opinion.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Aaaah well, I am 40-something but I'm not a rock critic and I prefer The Commercial Album to Eskimo so who knows what I'll make of it, if the sodding thing ever actually arrives.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Thoughts on Animal Lover. Current street date (US) is early April.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard it, don't want to and don't intend to, so consider my opinion even more inconsequential than usual. But a lotta folks are of the same opinion as me and have written as much: that their older stuff, with the much more primitive synth technology, was more inventive and unique and just plain INTERESTING to listen to. I think it was a mistake to switch their emphasis from "music" to "concepts". But of course, that's just following the lead of the writers who write about the band, extra-musical stuff being easier to get a grip on, and sexier.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

one full listen later: this album is a complete and utter piece of shit, and I can honestly say anyone who enjoys it is kidding themselves.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

it sounds like the worst school play you've ever been to.
or something you'd make in music class when you were 14.
there's hardly any detectable reference to the theme.
I really think this copy is a giant joke - I read they'd delayed the release date to make "major changes". I don't see how anyone could agree to release this. it's really THAT BAD.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I do halfway like their version of
"Viva Las Vegas" on "The King and I."

Because I have a great friend/Residents fanatic whose musical taste is very different from mine but with whom I share a lot of likes, I've heard a ton of Residents music over the years. I still find it, no matter how eloquently he defends it, puerile.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 25 February 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

".... their older stuff, with the much more primitive synth technology, was more inventive and unique and just plain INTERESTING to listen to. I think it was a mistake to switch their emphasis from "music" to "concepts"."

I think you're probably right - indeed, I suspect that the reason the last couple of Residents' projects (Wormwood, Demons Dance Alone) have shown such a long overdue return to form is that they did seem to have stopped trying to produce all-singing all-dancing fully-integrated multi-media conceptual arts projects, and were just concentrating on making music for it's own sake again.

Let's hope Animal Lover doesn't represent a step in the wrong direction.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

There is definitely a pre-1981 and post-1981 divide but I don't think it had very much to do with Jay Clem and John Kennedy leaving.

Kennedy was really just a money man I believe, I don't think he contributed anything artistically.

Jay Clem maybe did, he was the main actor in Vileness Fats and I think his vocals are present on some recordings but I'm not sure if he was a musician and I'm not aware of him doing anything after the Residents - though I could be wrong about that.

Fox musically and Flynn vocally and visually were always dominant creative elements in the Residents though they had lots of collaborators over the years.

I've always connected their musical decline to the switch to digital technology and just, you know, standard getting older and getting less interesting.

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 23:33 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

Didn't realise the Cherry Red editions would be on such low print runs. Would have bought them sooner.

Demons Dance Alone is amazing, and the bonus tracks.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 April 2025 18:42 (one year ago)

Wish they included the dvd though. Kind of a perplexing omission but I've seen people say that about other reissues.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 April 2025 18:47 (one year ago)

My gateway:Our Tired, Our Poor, Our Huddled Masses---goes backwards thru time, and just gets better and better.

dow, Saturday, 5 April 2025 19:58 (one year ago)

Apparently there's gonna be a live performance of Eskimo. That seems like an unappealing prospect to me, but ymmv.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 5 April 2025 22:22 (one year ago)

People weren't lying about the brickwalling on the first bunch of Preserved editions. I listened to Duckstab/Buster & Glen and it was a lot. I'll need to listen to Meet The Residents again and see if it's as bad because I don't remember it well or maybe it's a newer fixed edition? I'll be wary of buying the early releases in the series but God In Three Persons and Demons Dance Alone sounded good to me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:45 (one year ago)

https://www.discogs.com/label/1406488-The-Residents-pREServed

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:45 (one year ago)

That seems like an unappealing prospect to me

Bring along snowshoes

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:47 (one year ago)

People weren't lying about the brickwalling on the first bunch of Preserved editions.

It is inexcusable, I assume the band forced Scott Colburn to master them this way against his advice, b/c I know he knows what he's doing.

sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:48 (one year ago)

I just stuck with the first CD releases. I didn't like the EQ applied to the later remasters, though the packaging was really nice.

birdistheword, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:49 (one year ago)

The recent remasters or earlier ones?
I have a 2004 Euro Ralph version of Not Available, can't see any notes about remastering but it had been remastered before this time.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 10 April 2025 20:25 (one year ago)

A review from mr.datsun

I wrote to Homer Flynn about the mastering quality. He thought it sounded good, but said he would pass my thoughts on to the production team. It's a crying shame – this CD has been years coming and they mucked it up. Having said that, the 20-odd extras on here are essential for this period in their history. Well-recorded and a great insight into their development. I'm so glad to have them.

https://www.discogs.com/master/20938-The-Residents-Meet-The-Residents

There's a lot of blaming Cherry Red for track choices but I'm guessing it is the band making all these choices.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 10 April 2025 20:28 (one year ago)

All of them, even the earlier remasters.

birdistheword, Thursday, 10 April 2025 21:35 (one year ago)

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LiamDavies Feb 25, 2018
the first listen i had was in the car, and thought nothing of it because everything sounds the same in the car. but after playing this on my hi-fi . i'm so fucking pissed off

all those extras , great art work. great packaging but the sound quality is just unbearable . almost unlistenable so tinny and harsh. ive also pre ordered duck stab and fingerprince, but if its the same deal, i'm asking for money back.

the effort gone into getting these tracks from wherever they dwelled in residents world has been completely ruined by the shittiest mastering i have ever heard in my life.

sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 21:39 (one year ago)

I blame Homer, 100%

sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 21:39 (one year ago)

same jackass who thinks NFTs are cool

sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 21:40 (one year ago)

He also was a dick about a recently former member having a side gig as an instacart driver

sarahell, Thursday, 10 April 2025 21:45 (one year ago)

Like “this guy obviously is stupid because he works as a pizza delivery guy “

sarahell, Thursday, 10 April 2025 21:46 (one year ago)

Meet the Residents has been reissued quietly since in a much quieter mastering, for those unread to get all Steve Hoffman around here (the first issue is a proper earbleeder)

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Friday, 11 April 2025 22:27 (one year ago)

I think that might be the one I have, I hope they keep doing that with the other brickwalled remasters

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 April 2025 00:50 (one year ago)

xpost link?

The Last Air ETC (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 April 2025 01:33 (one year ago)

two months pass...

...so wait a second, "heroes and villains" is supposedly at the end of "swastikas on parade"? i have to admit i can't at all pick out any of the 25,450 melodies that were part of "heroes and villains" in the mix

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 June 2025 20:48 (eleven months ago)

I guess the lead synth part kind of emulates "The Heroes, the Heroes, the Heroes and Villains" chant?

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 29 June 2025 23:34 (eleven months ago)

Thanks for alerting me that this is now available on my streaming service.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 30 June 2025 02:52 (eleven months ago)

one month passes...

Has anyone seen Double Lunar Dogs by Joan Jonas?

It's one of the most out there pieces of video art I've ever seen and the Residents contribute to the...sound effects?

I haven't much enjoyed any of the dozen or so albums I've listened to from them, but the weird ass sounds they make work really well with the atmosphere of Double Lunar Dogs. That shit split my gourd. Definitely takes you to another (very unsettling) plane. Hard to find the words for, but I'd strongly recommend watching it.

https://archive.org/details/joan-jonas-1984-double-lunar-dogs

Ubiquitor, Sunday, 10 August 2025 07:18 (nine months ago)

two weeks pass...

Demons Dance Alone is so gorgeous, the outtakes on the first disc of the most recent reissue make it even better, amazing that they had that quality of stuff left off, I think they should have left everything on, I think it could have worked. A great 70something minutes, just amazing. I love the Banjo Kazooie saxophones on "Caring".

There's a few instrumentals left off this edition unfortunately ("Happy Thanksgiving" and "Black Cats", not masterpieces but would have been nice to have them on one of the discs).

Really annoying that Molly Harvey had to leave for family reasons, seems like she really didn't want to leave, she's one of the best things about this era.

https://www.artsatl.org/qa-molly-harvey-talks-about-time-with-experimental-rockers-the-residents-and-remembers-hardy-fox/

I think if anything, as Fox got older — and this is just my own projection being a performer — and began contemplating his own mortality, realized that there is a certain element that goes missing when you’re anonymous: the ability to interact with whose lives you’ve touched. I don’t remember if it was Wormwood or if it was Icky Flix or which tour it was, but he greeted every single person at the door that he could. He didn’t have a sign and at this point it was all sort of still unknown, but so many people had really lovely conversations with him, and that’s a beautiful thing that he was able to do that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 August 2025 23:33 (nine months ago)


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