xpost
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Girls Aloud are "pop" sure but "teenpop", I don't know - by origin they're a reality TV thing and would have been initially marketed to a wide-spectrum pop consumer, the latest album seems to be trying to crack a market I really do think is out there, a kind of pop equivalent of celebrity gossip-mag HEAT (which sells TONS here) - trashy, knowing, girl-about-town pop, aimed at a kind of just-post-student, first-job crowd (or that's what it makes me THINK of - being 23, not 13).
Their most teen thing recently was the song on their Xmas cash-in album about being "too old for Santa and too young for the sauce".
Heard on Smash Hits so far:
Brian McFadden - Irish Son - Catholic guilt confessional wimp-rock by ex-boyband guy.Sugababes - Ugly - self-help R'n'B with stringsMcFly - I'll Be OK - basically McFly are a powerpop outfit with a pop-punk accent. I don't like them. I loved some of their brother band Busted's stuff, though, who had no real 60s/70s influence.
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Eppy, I don't know! I didn't know European teenpop was stylistically related to chart pop. Just commenting more from a U.S. perspective. I think there's a market for teenpop that's more like the A*Teens in the U.S. Not too hot on U.S. kids just getting "safer" blandness (just generalizing again! I'd like to hear those Hilary songs you mentioned, Frank - we don't have a Radio Disney station here anymore) or sexed up stuff that's kinda inappropriate for them IMO.
xp - Chuck, I don't know if you were referring to my comments, but no, as I say here, I think U.S. teenpop seems like a hodgepodge of "safer" chartpop (Hilary, Jesse) and sexy celebrities (Gwen Stefani, etc.) that young girls are supposed to like,
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Any YSIs anyone wants to provide will be welcomes with open arms.
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
I find this pleasing.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway -
Seems to me that in the UK new teenpop acts are few and far between at the moment, the pendulum is perceived to have swung and launches are all solo acts from groups or proven winners from somewhere else.
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Would someone provide a URL for Smash Hits radio?
(I was once on the Smash Hits masthead, albeit the Australian one.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link
The "Smash Hits Chart" is weird, it may be a year-end or ringtone list, or it may be that Tony Christie and the Crazy Frog are still the favourites.
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link
(Maybe other teenpop does this too, I'm not saying it's just a UK thing, though I recognise the tradition in the UK)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 5 January 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Amy Diamond - What's In It For Me?
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
interesting point about the supposed Girls Aloud target audience. post teen, Heat, T4 i see the drill. possibly the biggest consumers in repect to surplus cash and from my experience seems to be the audience you'd most associate with alot of the top 40 albums of the year thou not of course all http://www.coolclarity.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58888 no girls aloud but interestingly no frank fergusons oh and38 The War of the Worlds - Jeff Wayne 446,000
back to teen pop the stuff i really liked last year that was teen pop was the sort of attempts of find a girl Busted, the teleological grail of all that is good, The Faders, Kim Lian and Lovebites especially The Lovebites but the teens said no it seems, perhaps sixth forms (moshercore! nmindie!) and "life style" (what girls aloud portray but James Blunt is actually a part of?) are more appealing than songs about beating up boyfriends and so forth.
― pscott (elwisty), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link
I believe the kids still really like the pop punk, if I can judge by my 13-year-old half sister.
― Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link
I've good feelings about this track, so far.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Yep. She had that Lustra song ("Scotty Doesn't Know") from Eurotrip up on her MySpace page for a while. (Sidebar: I think that song rocks.)
Also, they like the Yellowcard, I believe.
Some of that stuff is bad and boring, and some of it is foot-tappy and cute.
― Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Chuck "I still haven't heard Robyn or Rachel Stevens or Girls Aloud, though though I want to. What's so great about them again?" Eddy, man, I'm happily anticipating the joy that awaits you. Not so much with Rachel - her few singles are fantastic (plus of course, 'Crazy Boys') but the albums really haven't endured in the same way that GA's 'What Would the Neighbours Say?' and 'Chemistry' have. And Robyn's Robyn works.
One thing, is that the new younger Emma Roberts/ Aly and AJ (who I believed to be teenpop antichrists pre- Rush) are remarkable in how LESS/ emptier their sounds are; watered down, less commited to either rocking or popping or punking out at all.
Lilix, they haven't been dropped yet? Bad songs.
The new Hilary stuff - as I tried to discuss in a convaluted mess with cis and Lex (?) was how neatly she's shifted from the grrl-rock game, now Ashlee and Lindsay are there, and into the electro 80s synth sounds, appropriating the Killers elements rather than Avril. Which, if 'Beat of my heart' is to be judged, and 'wake up', seems a smart move. The earlier 'come clean' era was good, but I'm liking the new shift. Didn't the Maddens produce those Most Wanted bonus tracks?
McFly - Dadrock indeed, only their aesthetic is bemusing now too, looking at the '5 colours' era to their latest video which was very '2002 nu-metal alienation graphics' - not at all teenpop looking, more grey suits and flat hair.
― Abby (abby mcdonald), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Has she really shifted genres, though? Or is it just some '80s electro accoutrements on the same style songs? Listening to the clip of "Wake up" on iTunes makes me wonder.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abby (abby mcdonald), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 6 January 2006 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― DoG67, Friday, 6 January 2006 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link
1 TONY CHRISTIE FT PETER KAY (IS THIS THE WAY TO) AMARILLO 2 CRAZY FROG AXEL F 3 JAMES BLUNT YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL 4 MCFLY ALL ABOUT YOU/YOU'VE GOT A FRIEND 5 SHANYE WARD THAT’S MY GOAL 6 AKON LONELY 7 PUSSYCAT DOLLS FT BUSTA RHYMES DON'T CHA 8 WESTLIFE YOU RAISE ME UP 9 2PAC FT ELTON JOHN GHETTO GOSPEL 10 MADONNA HUNG UP 11 DANIEL POWTER BAD DAY 12 SUGABABES PUSH THE BUTTON 13 MARIO LET ME LOVE YOU 14 NELLY FT TIM MCGRAW OVER AND OVER 15 SNOOP DOGG/WILSON/TIMBERLAKE SIGNS 16 NATALIE IMBRUGLIA SHIVER 17 GORILLAZ FEEL GOOD INC 18 MARIAH CAREY WE BELONG TOGETHER 19 BODYROCKERS I LIKE THE WAY 20 SCISSOR SISTERS FILTHY/GORGEOUS 21 BLACK EYED PEAS DON'T PHUNK WITH MY HEART 22 ROBBIE WILLIAMS TRIPPING 23 CHARLOTTE CHURCH CRAZY CHICK 24 COLDPLAY SPEED OF SOUND 25 WILL SMITH SWITCH 26 GWEN STEFANI FT EVE RICH GIRL 27 KEANE THIS IS THE LAST TIME 28 JENNIFER LOPEZ GET RIGHT 29 CORAL IN THE MORNING 30 UNITING NATIONS OUT OF TOUCH 31 LEMAR IF THERE'S ANY JUSTICE 32 OASIS THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING IDLE 33 GREEN DAY BOULEVARD OF BROKEN DREAMS 34 STEREOPHONICS DAKOTA 35 SUNSET STRIPPERS FALLING STARS 36 GORILLAZ DARE 37 GREEN DAY WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS 38 OASIS LYLA 39 50 CENT CANDY SHOP 40 BLACK EYED PEAS DON'T LIE 41 KELLY CLARKSON SINCE U BEEN GONE 42 EMINEM LIKE TOY SOLDIERS 43 USHER CAUGHT UP 44 U2 SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN 45 AMERIE 1 THING 46 ROB THOMAS LONELY NO MORE 47 SEAN PAUL WE BE BURNIN' 48 MVP ROC YA BODY (MIC CHECK 1 2) 49 RIHANNA PON DE REPLAY 50 GWEN STEFANI COOL This is the Smash Hits Chart compiled
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 6 January 2006 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 6 January 2006 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, with nine shopping days left until Pazz & Jop, I'm in the midst of what's always equivalent to the Bataan death march an end-of-year delight, which is to reevaluate my favorite records of the year for possible poll ranking, and trying to catch up on the many records I've missed. To report on the latter endeavor:Madonna - I love the single, hate the rest of it. Lindsay Lohan - I hate the single, love the rest of it. (Isn't this what fundamentalists urge us to do: hate the single but love the singer?) Kelly Clarkson - way better than Christgau says it is, of course, but I can hear how incipient Faithisms and Celinetudes could weigh it down for him (and even for me, to some extent). Tatu - finely flimsied Europop at its finest, which surprises me (not the flimsiness or the Europop, but the fineness, since the single they emerged with several years ago had struck me as finely diced dime-a-dozen Europop and I didn't believe the hype; maybe the difference is no Trevor Horn this time).
-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), December 17th, 2005. (Frank Kogan)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let's see, in the previous post I should have deleted the comma after "ranking" and changed "and trying to" to "and try to"; and I should have changed "way better than" to "far better than," so that the sentence wouldn't have been weighed down by a surfeit of "ways" and "weighs."
But to relate these albums to the putative subject matter of this thread:
Madonna wore a cowboy hat on the cover of her previous CD, which has nothing to do with the new album, or with the previous either, as far as I could tell, but here she is and I'm talking about her. The new CD is even duller than the others she's put out in the last fifteen years, which shocks me though probably shouldn't have, but I had hopes for this thing because (1) I love the single, and (2) I'd liked chief collaborator Stuart Price's Les Rythmes Digitales album from 1999 enough to have put it on my Pazz & Jop ballot (after which I totally forgot about him and it until seeing some ILM discussion several weeks ago lauding his subsequent career remixing any and everything under pseudonyms such as Jacques La Cont, Thin White Duke, Zoot Woman, Pour Homme, Paper Faces, Man With Guitar).
So the single samples the riff from Abba's "Gimme Gimme a Man After Midnight," putting it in a beautiful setting and when the riff is absent giving a beautiful texture to the chords. And the rest of the album has equally beautiful textures, and wonderful troughs and swells whenever a song transitions from verse to chorus or chorus to verse or verse to break. What it doesn't have is a single melody worth transitioning too, anywhere, except for that one Abba riff on track one. So you end up with soggy high-class mood music, all the beautiful swells and stuff just weighing everything down - er, wait, I mean, hold on, I can't use "weigh" again, um, dragging everything down? drenching everything up? (Oh, I don't know.) Her voice makes the tracks draggy too, I don't know why; it's the sort that needs a melody, not an atmosphere, I guess. "Hate" is probably an exaggeration - no, it isn't, I really don't like the thing, but I'll admit there are musically worthy moments. The obnoxious "I Love New York" song is as stupid as Joan Morgan says in her Voice review (she loved the album except for this track) but is actually one of the few signs of life, probably because it cops the chord pattern to Iggy's "I Wanna Be Your Dog" (an odd riff for a Detroit chick to use in a tribute to New York, given that the Stooges' home base was Ann Arbor, but maybe she or Price didn't notice the resemblance to "Dog").
Maybe I'm listening wrong and can come to hear it differently.
Ah, Lindsay. Her voice is a loose blat in comparison to Ashlee's tough little battering ram, and so far she hasn't pulled her music together as powerfully as Ashlee has; but the loose blat and the woman's basic Lohanicity make everything feel playful no matter how devastated or introspective she thinks she's being. The band sounds like it's having a rollicking good time. This is probably inaccurate - my copy has no album credits, but I assume that rather than a band there's just some guy doing overdub upon overdub, which is how most of these things are made. Some spirit is in this. (Strange if the tenth spot on my P&J list comes down to who is more fun: Lindsay Lohan or the Hold Steady. Craig Finn of the Hold Steady clobbers her in the category throw-you-to-the-floor funny lyrics ("Tramps like us and we like tramps"!), not too mention basic goofiness of vocal delivery, but she scores high on general pizzazz and ongoing shamelessness. Speaking of which, remember when words like "pizzazz" and "shameless" pertained to Madonna?But to get bring us back to this thread, the best song on the Lohan, "I Live for the Day," matches "Kerosene" in virulence if not in stompability: "I live for the day, I live for the night, that you will be desperate and dying inside." (Glad to see that Lindsay has found a purpose in life) (though this was one of the songs she didn't co-write [writer's credits are available at allmusic.com].) And there's a meta moment worthy of Big & Rich where at the start of a the title, "A Little More Personal," she and a producer (or someone) are arguing over whether songs should have spoken intros (Lindsay in favor of them because they make the record a little more personal). But I kinda don't think Big & Rich will ever begin a song by singing: "God won't talk to me. I guess she's pretty busy." Or if they do, it won't get on the radio.
(My rationalization for posting this here is that by exploring what noncountry can and can't do, this tells us something about what country can and can't do. My real reason is that this is a more congenial thread than most to post on. And more fun.)
Close parenthesis after "pertained to Madonna?" And "at the start of a the title" should be, "at the start of the title song."
Kelly Clarkson - She's someone who could conceivably jump to country if she wanted to, since several of her songs (esp. "Breakaway") aren't far from the basic land of pop-country crossover, if she were ever to choose it. I don't think she knows yet which genre she'll settle into. She's playing big on CHR pop and adult contemporary so she'll probably continue offering the loud-bright-rock-and-gentle-ballad combo special. As of now she wants wall of guitars on her wailing choruses, which is something country has yet to allow.
She's got a love-is-the-drug my-love-for-you-is-toxic song (called "Addicted," appropriately enough) that is more flat-out pained and less knowing than you'd get in the country equivalents (or in Sheryl's or Britney's, for that matter): "It's like you're a leech, sucking the life from me/It's like I can't breathe without you inside of me."
the first time i felt like i was invading, that i was engaging in something inapporite, that seemed too personal, too raw for public consumption in a v v long time, was the artless but heartbreaking video for lohan's too personal. it was harder to consume than any of the confessional singer songwriter shit that i engaged in, and was liminal b/w public and private personae in a way that seemed genuinely transgressive/taboo breaking.
not in the sense of oh my god this is so shocking (ie the ultra conceptual madonna of like a prayer) but in the sense of leave the poor girl alone, hasnt she suffered enough...
its something i dont have the crtical vocab for--and it doesnt matter if its nto v. good musically (and it isnt)--strangely enough, that overshare personal detail stuff seems to come in two places, girl pop (and i hear it in the shangri las, in the crystals, in other places) and in country--and the only place i felt it this year was in my inital reaction to the awful mindy mccready situtaion. (ie:finally we have tammy back)
does that a) make me a bad personb) make sense
-- anthony easton (anthonyeasto...), December 18th, 2005. (anthony)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 6 January 2006 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link
(Of course I can't let a discussion of teen TV go by).
Miley's southern accent on the show comes and goes. She talks like she has a retainer in her mouth. It's weird. But her acting has markedly improved over time.
Hannah Montana IS a ripoff of Lizzie (not just a group of friends, but one girl friend and one guy friend + one brother, etc, etc). Of course, just about every Diz/Nick show post Lizzie is the same. Actually Phil of the Future followed more in the vein of Even Stevens. Disney Channel is hardly noted for being original. I've written way more about HM on my blog, so I'm just gonna stop here.
― Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link
I think Hannah has about a 50% success ratio (and yeah, the only obvious accent is in the theme song, but it was first, hence the lasting impression despite her getting progressively "Sk8er Boi"-by-way-of-Hilary, which means ditching the accent...I mean, Hilary's from Houston fer cryin' out loud).
But the reason it's huge, as has been said a couple of times, is that Disney has given it a major media blitz through its own outlets, which is enough -- almost without any outside recognition at all -- to make a dent on the Billboard charts. (Disney kids wouldn't have a WTF reaction to "Best of Both Worlds," because they were introduced to it as the theme song to the show; it simply outlines the premise). Disney Channel plays Hannah/Aly&AJ/Vanessa Hudgens on alternating commercial breaks, and there's some major deck-stacking going on with Radio Disney's "democratic" voting system. I.e., in any given month, three out of four (if not four out of four) artists introduced into rotation (via the "Music Mailbag") are from Hollywood. I think Cheetah Girls have had about four new singles introduced in a little under two months.
Which isn't to say none of the music's any good (some of it is great), but at some level the popularity of it has little to do with how good it actually is.
― nameom (nameom), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link
So was Lizzie a ripoff of Clarrisa Explains It All in the first place (except for, you know, the songs part) (and the part about Clarissa being sort of a weirdo) (among other stuff?) (actually i'm not even sure the girlpal + guypal + brother applies.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxQYV9Uo5mw
Stabbing Westward shout-out to their favorite brands. Really grown on me.
― Zwan (miccio), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Lizzie and Clarissa aren't great comparisons, but they are OK. Did Clarissa have a girl friend? I don't recall. Lizzie was much more of an everygirl with very simple and every day plots. Like for example not wanting to spend time with parents, doing badly on a test, being made fun of by popular girls, etc., etc. Whereas Clarissa seems much wackier. I can't really think of a touchstone that Lizzie drew off of enough to call it a "rip-off". At least not among tv shows. It's kind of like a younger and tv version of a Hughes movie though. Whereas Hannah (which I do like by the way) rips off both Lizzie AND The Famous Jett Jackson.
― Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link
That's So Raven, Unfabulous, Naturally Sadie, Read It and Weep.
May not seem like much, but well more than half of the shows Diz has developed since, plus a Nick show that came out right after Lizzie broke out, plus their most recent hit original movie. The formula seems to work for them.
― Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link
I went to the EMAs last night because Hoot was nominated for "Best Feature with an Environmentally Conscious Plot With Cute Butts"
or something like that. I don't remember. They gave out free organic chocolate and Real Food Daily catered and thats all that matters in life so everything else is seemingly flat.
ANYCRAP.we lost to Ice Age.
But Sara was there and won for "Darcy's Wild Life" but also lost at the same time with her H20 commercial (Feel free to bring up the part where she says "ITS NOT A QUANTITY, ITS ABOUT ACCESS!"). People dropped their awards and broke them. Many remarks were made that were, in fact, sexual. And the Wonder Pets sang a song about saving a tree for what seemed like 20 minutes (But it was the best 20 minutes of my life).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 06:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Best Group Made of Brothers / SistersJonas BrothersAly & AJB5Everlife
Best Song To Listen To While Getting Ready For SchoolRush - Aly & AJStart Of Something New - Troy & GabriellaUnwritten - Natasha BedingfieldI Got Nerve - Miley Cyrus
Best Artist Or Song Your Teacher LikesCrazy - Gnarls BarkleyToo Little Too Late - JoJoGonna Make U Sweat - C & C Music FactorySo Sick - Ne-Yo
(What was their criteria for choosing the "Teacher Likes" category?)Can't seem to figure out how to vote for the BONUS "Best Ringtone" category. Also, there should be a write-in option.
― nameom (nameom), Thursday, 16 November 2006 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link
JT's "My Love" holds at #1 for the third week. "Fergalicious" stays at number 3, Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" jumps to number 4. Those two songs seem to be JT's biggest competitor for next week. "Irreplaceable" has been the Biggest Airplay Gainer 2 weeks in a row. Bowling For Soup's "High School Never Ends" debuts at number 97. Radio Diz is ahead of the curve yet again. I like it better than "1985" for what it's worth, though they are obviously extremely similar songs.
On the album chart, Hannah Montana falls to 5th, but still sold 136,000 copies, which is a very strong week. That would be enough to top the charts in some of the slow summer weeks. Now 23 debuts at the top of the charts.
― Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link
NO WEB CAM YOU SAY?no problem!
just hook up your video camera to your computer, along with headphone and a microphone(if you have it) and be happy, ya bitch.
THE PICO PICO SHOW WILL INCLUDE:1.) Brie Larson.2.) Costumes.3.) Friends and fellow contributors(i.e. golie, travis, matt, sorry guys that I didn't tell you about it first, but you are doing it dammit! even if it costs me a tray of rice crispies with extra butter)4.) Photos!5.) Pictionary!6.) Titties! ask darren for more info.
The reason I tell you about this now, my lovelies, is because this Zine will cost you a pretty penny. So start saving now and be part of the fun!
― nameom (nameom), Friday, 17 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link
http://suziblade.com/thecolorguard/Scraps.html
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link
Clips from three songs to appear on the upcoming album fromKatharine McPhee posted to one of her fansites. Kat was, despite her horrible inconsistency, my favorite of the contestants on American Idol 5. She was always classy and old-timey jazzy/bluesy on the show and so I had assumed they were going to go in that direction for the album. But it's very R&B-ish. "Open Toes" is pretty much standard fare current uptempo R&B, but pretty good. "Over It" is a ripoff of JoJo, but I again think it's a good song. "Each Other" is a white R&B ballad, kind of boring. Album could be successful or could be a huge flop, I'm not really sure at this point.
― Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link
KDIS-AMLos Angeles - 1110 AM (Radio Disney)LW: Nov 4 - Nov 10 TW: Nov 11 - Nov 17 Updated: Sat Nov 18 2:18 PM PST
lw TW Artist Title spinsTW spinslw +/- Reach/Mill2 1 HANNAH MONTANA If We Were A Movie 77 77 0 0.34174 2 VANESSA HUDGENS Come Back To Me 75 74 1 0.33491 3 ASHLEY TISDALE Kiss The Girl 75 78 -3 0.31633 4 JESSE MCCARTNEY Right Where You Want Me 74 75 -1 0.31555 5 JONAS BROTHERS Year 3000 73 73 0 0.313410 6 JONAS BROTHERS Poor Unfortunate Soul 72 32 40 0.2997 7 HANNAH MONTANA I've Got Nerve 72 72 0 0.29636 8 HANNAH MONTANA Best Of Both Worlds 68 73 -5 0.285413 9 B5 Keep Your Head In The Game 33 30 3 0.135314 10 BOWLING FOR SOUP 1985 33 30 3 0.148124 11 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 32 26 6 0.134618 12 RIHANNA SOS 32 30 2 0.135919 13 ALY & A.J. Chemicals React 31 29 2 0.12849 14 JOJO Too Little Too Late 31 34 -3 0.137817 15 RIHANNA Pon De Replay 31 30 1 0.126723 16 CHEETAH GIRLS The Party's Just Begun 30 28 2 0.127322 17 CHEETAH GIRLS Amigas Cheetahs 29 28 1 0.136834 18 CHEETAH GIRLS Route 66 29 17 12 0.12658 19 HANNAH MONTANA Who Said 29 72 -43 0.111120 20 CHEETAH GIRLS Step Up 28 29 -1 0.114315 21 CHEETAH GIRLS Strut 28 30 -2 0.123216 22 HAYLIE DUFF Material Girl 28 30 -2 0.123221 23 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL We're All In This Together 28 29 -1 0.115629 24 DANIEL POWTER Bad Day 28 24 4 0.126312 25 ALY & A.J. Rush 27 30 -3 0.129528 26 CRAZY FROG Axel F 27 24 3 0.106996 27 ALY & A.J. Greatest Time Of Year 26 1 25 0.124411 28 CHRIS BROWN Yo (Excuse Me Miss) 26 31 -5 0.094227 29 BOWLING FOR SOUP High School Never Ends 24 25 -1 0.107430 30 CRAZY FROG We Are The Champions 22 23 -1 0.094325 31 EVERLIFE Find Yourself In You 22 26 -4 0.083332 32 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL Breaking Free 18 18 0 0.083331 33 BELINDA Why Wait 17 20 -3 0.060536 34 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL Start Of Something New 15 13 2 0.05235 35 EVERLIFE Look Through My Eyes 14 17 -3 0.0591-- 36 SMASH MOUTH So Insane 13 0 13 0.073-- 37 SMASH MOUTH The Crawl 9 0 9 0.043437 38 B5 Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf 7 8 -1 0.055347 39 BLACK EYED PEAS Let's Get It Started 7 5 2 0.0363 40 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 6 4 2 0.01665 41 HANNAH MONTANA Pumpin' Up The Party 6 4 2 0.028854 42 NELLY Over And Over (f/Tim McGraw) 6 5 1 0.017867 43 SIMPLE PLAN Shut Up 6 4 2 0.020443 44 ASHLEE SIMPSON Boyfriend 6 6 0 0.022656 45 ASHLEE SIMPSON Pieces Of Me 6 5 1 0.024469 46 RAVEN SYMONE Backflip 6 4 2 0.017358 47 WEEZER Beverly Hills 6 5 1 0.011145 48 B5 Dance For You 5 5 0 0.014860 49 B5 U Got Me 5 4 1 0.013548 50 BOWLING FOR SOUP Almost 5 5 0 0.0219
This is the Radio Disney Top 30 as posted on its site today, though they played the list on-air yesterday morning, so I'm guessing the week runs either to the 17th or the 18th. I'm not sure how they compile the Top 30, but requests must have a lot to do with it. I've bolded anything that's at least 10 places lower than the airplay standings, italicized anything that's 10 places higher.
For November 20, 2006
1 2 Hannah Montana "If We Were a Movie"2 1 Ashley Tisdale "Kiss the Girl"3 8 Hannah Montana "Best of Both Worlds"4 3 Vanessa Hudgens "Come Back to Me"5 9 Jonas Brothers "Year 3000"6 5 Hannah Montana "I Got Nerve"7 7 Jesse McCartney "Right Where You Want Me"8 4 Mr C The Slide Man "Cha Cha Slide"9 12 Hannah Montana "Who Said"10 20 Jesse McCartney "Beautiful Soul"11 6 Jonas Brothers "Poor Unfortunate Souls"12 13 Crazy Frog "Crazy Frog (Axel F)"13 10 JoJo "Too Little, Too Late"14 -- Cheetah Girls "Cinderella"15 15 Hannah Montana "Pumpin' Up the Party"16 -- Jonas Brothers "Mandy"17 11 Bowling For Soup "1985"18 28 Hampton the Hampster "Hampsterdance Song"19 21 High School Musical Cast "We're All In This Together"20 24 Cheetah Girls "Amigas Cheetahs"21 16 Aly and AJ "Rush"22 26 Akon "Lonely"23 debut Hilary Duff "Material Girl"24 27 Aly and AJ "Chemicals React"25 -- B5 "Get'cha Head In The Game"26 18 Troy and Gabriella "Breaking Free"27 23 Rihanna "S.O.S."28 19 B5 "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf"29 25 Cheetah Girls "The Party's Just Begun"30 17 Cheetah Girls "Step Up"
I was assuming that most of the bold would be Disney product and most of the italics would be non-Disney. The numbers I get for BOLD are Disney 4, non-Disney 1. The numbers I get for italics are Disney 4, non-Disney 5. This is not as strong a result as I'd expected, esp. since I'm guessing that the non-Disney "Cha Cha Slide" is getting uncounted airplay. Also, notice some non-Disney product that's getting airplay but not making the site list (Tashbed, Powter). But then again, "Strut" and "Route 66" are Disney product that's in the Top 30 in airplay but isn't making the Disney chart. Basically, the Cheetahs are getting more airplay than requests, and that's the difference, if my assumption is correct about how they compile the site's Top 30 (but notice that "Cinderella" is an exception, getting more requests than airplay).
(Um, are the Hilary and Haylie versions of "Material Girl" different recordings, or is that a mistake?)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Thanks for posting both lists, I checked both today and didn't see huge discrepancies, but the Cheetah Girls gap suggests that the online votes aren't tampered with (which probably wouldn't be too hard to do).
― nameom (nameom), Monday, 20 November 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link