― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris 'Crusty' V (Chris V), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Right here. It's all right here. By far the best RHP album. I believe this so deeply, that I can barely listen to anything that came before despite my insane love for his entire output.
― john'n'chicago, Friday, 20 May 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris 'Crusty' V (Chris V), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris 'Crusty' V (Chris V), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris 'Crusty' V (Chris V), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris 'Crusty' V (Chris V), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Right here. It's all right here. By far the best RHP album.
I really don't understand this at all! it's so disappointing.
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link
To be honest, my favorites are Katysong and Strawberry Hill but people should also take a listen to some of the more obscure stuff. There are a lot of gems there.
― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link
listened to "Drop" but couldnt get into it - liked the guitar part at the end a lot and his voice does sound good. havne't listened to Michael yet.
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I think the bridge album is the worst. The only decent track is the new version of New Jersey (which stomps all over the rollercoaster version and then puts out back with the trash). But other than that -- dud.
Michael is a great song.
― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link
However, judged as a whole, I still stand by my prior statement.
― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― bujar, Friday, 20 May 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Uncle JoeSmokey (demo version from the Shanti project disc, NOT the version on Old Ramon)Ruth MarieUp To My Neck In You (ac dc cover)
Michael and Katy Song are definitely my favourites.
― Jonathan (Jonathan), Friday, 20 May 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 20 May 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine is on toffuti break! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 20 May 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 21 May 2005 09:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris 'Crusty' V (Chris V), Saturday, 21 May 2005 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link
"I buried my first victim when I was nineteenWent through her bedroom and the pockets of her jeansFound her letters that said so many things that really hurt me badI'll never breath her name again", etc.
Or do I just have a demented imagination? (apologies on any lyrics I've misheard...of course, that might be the whole problem...)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
"Cassius Clay was hated more than Sonny ListonSome like KK Downing more than Glenn TiptonSome like Jim Nabors, some Bobby VintonI like 'em all"
He's comparing Downing to Tipton, and both were guitarists for Judas Priest. So I assume that's the only Tipton he's referring to in the song. I also read that the Eleanor in the song is an old friend of his.
― Jonathan (Jonathan), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jonathan (Jonathan), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
The pinnacle is still "Medicine Bottle" to me, though "Cruiser" comes very close.
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 27 May 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
1. The song takes its name from the Priest guitarist, but is not narrated by him
2. The "serial killer" verse is as ambiguous as his relationship with the girl in question. "Buried" and "victim" can be read as metaphors for the ways early romantic love goes wrong, or they could be quite literal. IMHO it's that tension, and the light it casts on the ways of love etc that makes this verse interesting.
Kind of like the tension in "Carry Me Ohio" - can't count all the lovers I've burned through/so why do I still burn for you? vs. sorry that I could never love you back...
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 27 May 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Amazing live. go for it. -- Chris 'Crusty' V (thebing...), May 21st, 2005.
He is amazing live, and it's worth going. But do be prepared to mostly stand around swaying and nodding your head while squinting a bit with that "listening intently" look.
Roll he does; r0x0r he does not.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 27 May 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Go see him! "Mistress" was unbelievable.
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 28 May 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Saturday, 28 May 2005 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Saturday, 28 May 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link
My fave individual track is probably still "Katy Song", but I do like the Sun Kil Moon record a lot.
― Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Sunday, 29 May 2005 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Pretty stoked to see Kozelek in Chicago tonight - but I bet my buddies at the Archers of Loaf reunion show are gonna have more fun!
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
I'd really like to see him tour with a band. Never saw Red House Painters or Sun Kil Moon...
― john. a resident of chicago., Friday, 8 July 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
Katy Song
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 9 July 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
disappointed me when i heard anecdotes that red house painters were super douches.
grace cathedral park or mistress piano version.
i p much don't like that many of their songs, but the ones i do i fucking love.
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 9 July 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it would be nice if he'd tour with a band again. I don' think SKM ever toured as a band; he did one show in SF with a band though, kind of.
although to be honest...I saw RHP a LOT and they could be pretty boring. I mean I adore those albums but sometimes it got kind of dull.
― akm, Saturday, 9 July 2011 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
"The only thing I miss about playing with a band is having a guitar tech — a guy that hands me my guitars between songs and is responsible for tuning them. That’s really all I miss."
http://www.sunkilmoon.com/interviewCameronCrowe.html
― john. a resident of chicago., Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
Really love this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nSuTSyymvU
and I think I re-sold the last Kozelek album I bought/was fairly non-plussed by the last Album Leaf album (though have loved other stuff by them both).
― djh, Sunday, 9 June 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
katy song, nothing by kozelek has ever touched me like this slowly blossoming song.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 9 June 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
EvilDown ThroughThings Mean A Lot
― MaresNest, Sunday, 9 June 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
preferred the first post tbh
― imago, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link
that is a funny verse TBF. And that verse from Old Ramon is fucking awful; I remember when that finally came out how much those lyrics bugged me. Anyway: RHP were never a great live band, in case anyone is wondering. I saw them probably a dozen times, and I remember one really good show. Their last show, which was after Old Ramon was finally released, was such a slog I left early.
― akm, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link
I might have written that here already but when I saw him during the Benji tour he explained the reason he cancelled the previous Montreal show a few years prior was that he hooked-up with this gorgeous Torontonian and after having sex all night he lost his voice and couldn't possibly sing the next show.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link
hate it when i fuck my voice out
― Steve M (Banned) (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link
thank god I have posting on ilx as an outlet
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link
More grist for the Toronto vs. Montreal feud.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link
I remember checking out the rollercoaster s/t in the early 00s and feeling immensely disappointed because it was nowhere near as depressing as the critics made it out to be, so I never explored the rest of his output.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link
Sometimes I worry, Pom.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 03:13 (three years ago) link
Haha, that was almost twenty years ago. Almost everything had to achieve the same degree of anguish as the fifth movement of Schnittke's 4th String Quartet or I wasn't interested.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link
I feel like Pomenitul would have been my friend 20 years ago. If I'd had friends.
― djh, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 10:20 (three years ago) link
I've made some progress in the interim, but I can still be your trve miserablist friend.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 13:51 (three years ago) link
I feel like I'm reading a eulogy thread
― Dinsdale, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
rollercoaster is one of my favorite albums, and i love depressing music, but I don't think it's really 'depressing'. it's melancholy.
― akm, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link
(XP)Poll: Is Mark Kozelek dead to you?- Yes- No
― enochroot, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link
OK in conclusion I will pretend Young Love was the actual final song on AFP, he quits music, then a few years later the material from Among The Leaves comes out but as part of a SKM b-sides and rarities comp. I'll just assume that's how it went down.
― Evan, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link
'Pristine' by Snail Mail sounds like 'San Geronimo' sped up. That was driving me crazy.
― am0n shaped post (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 March 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/sun-kil-moon-mark-kozelek-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-seven-more-women/
― Indexed, Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:33 (three years ago) link
real real bleak stuff
― ufo, Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link
He's a predator with a practiced regimen of luring and raping women less than half his age in city after city all over the world. There are surely more of these stories.
― Indexed, Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link
What a repulsive excuse for a human being.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 March 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link
I feel like I need to take a shower after reading about this scumbag.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 March 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link
you can hear the rot from the start on rollercoaster; from grace cathedral park:
Tell me why are you like this? Are you the same with anyone?Save me from my sickness and tell me why do you treat me like this?Tell me why are you like this? Are you the same with anyone?Save me from my sickness and tell me why are you like this?
i think i know the answers to those questions!!
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 25 March 2021 22:36 (three years ago) link
i never want to hear his music again
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 March 2021 22:38 (three years ago) link
I've been there for a few years (ever since that weird unilateral feud with War on Drugs), but this really reinforces it x1000.
― enochroot, Thursday, 25 March 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link
nels cline 1, koz 0
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 26 March 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
This I guess is the AITA thread referenced in the Pitchfork article, although the original seems to be gone now.
AITA for feeling weird about my girlfriend talking on the phone with her celebrity hero? https://t.co/rmCeysvTCP pic.twitter.com/UmsxJjldcS— Am I the Asshole? (@AITA_reddit) October 16, 2019
― a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Friday, 26 March 2021 00:48 (three years ago) link