ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

Also: LL Cool J was younger than these dudes and dropping classics

xxp yeah that all makes a lot of sense

slick rick was 20 when "la di da di" came out

I dunno; I seem to remember people calling De La kids?

― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:41 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

did they? maybe i dunno, i'm younger so most of what i've read about them has been later looking back so that might distort my view

i didn't think of any of those people as kids. rakim, de la, etc.

ll i did kinda though. when radio came out.

and since i'm old i can say that i don't remember anyone talking about how de la were kids.

i don't remember De La being perceived as kids at all, if anything i thought they were older cuz they seemed kinda chilled out and sophisticated and stuff....well maybe just Posdnous cuz he always looked a little old for his age IMO

with De La I would imagine the throwback hippie peace-lovin' vibes overshadowed ages, confirm/deny?

btw it doesn't take much imagination to rewrite
isn't generated within the label system, is actively 4chan nihilistic, sprawls out and embraces new media methods of communication/distribution and resists immediate definition as a group
so that it applies to the Wu!

prob it was just that most rappers were really young back then

i always felt that rakim was, like, 400 in earth years.

"sprawls out and embraces new media methods of communication/distributionill-fated licensed comic and apparel endeavors"

part of it's prob physical appearance too -- even though the "Me Myself & I" video took place in a high school they kinda looked like they were too old to be there

the context for calling de la kids was that me myself and i video was in a school and they were all daisy age hippy kids during a brief blip of that being a pop youth rap movement so yeah, i feel like the fact they were young helped define that first album and also made the mainstream/critical disdain to sophomore effort easier to understand

bumping that convicts album right now btw
i love living in the future

xxxps on that of course.
and i agree with snowy of course, i've been arguing that ofwgkta is, in essense, what happens if the wu had cellphones for a minute now

odd future really embraces juvenile attitudes/lifestyles where most rappers try to seem more worldly/gansta

convicts is good but "illegal aliens" might be the nastiest shittiest song in hip hop history

also

oddfuture isn't even close to on the level of nas and wu-tang

yes they are kid-like. this has totally been established. they are kiddys. they look like kids. they act like kids.

did you guys know that odd future are ACTUAL kids?

not arguing that they are! but if wu had a place to put their first sketches and ideas on the web, i bet it would be close to the oddfuture stuff. they're just fucking starting here folks!

yeah the odd future/wu comparison stops working once you listen to the music

odd future really embraces juvenile attitudes/lifestyles where most rappers try to seem more worldly/gansta

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:51 AM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah the preoccupation w/their age seems to flow pretty logically from them and the stuff they rap about!

er xp again, this thread is moving too fast for me

they're just fucking starting here folks!

― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:52 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol you are witnessing their peak

btw can I just say, thanks everyone, I really enjoyed this brief history lesson. always appreciate it when older heads can set me straight on the shit I wasn't around for (no pomo — I love grand narratives!)

its an improvement on the beastie boys pretending to be kids well into their 60's anyway.

this conversation makes a good companion to the middle-aged artists thread

most of the "older heads" here are younger than Posdnuos
aka "damn u making me feel ancient"

tbf i was kind of shocked in talking with whiney to realize i'm older than him
hos on my dick cause i look like Morbius

i'm older than posdnuos.

by a year.

forks i'd be surprised if you're older than plug one! he's like 10+ years older than whiney or me.

baby bam lives near me. wish he would come into my store. would love to thank him for the inspiration. baby bam has had an odd future:

"Bam has most recently been performing in Massachusetts while he has been establishing his new production company, Ravensclaw Productions. He is also associated with a new movement called the Pagan Society. Much controversy has surrounded him with his broad range of performance style. Bam faces growing pains as an artist while transforming his persona to meet his artistic needs and dealing with his already established image. He is now known to wear gas masks on stage, apply bloody makeup, and wear face paint in what he calls bamboozles on his audience and fans. He has deviated from the traditional hip-hop community to establish himself as an artist involving himself in many collaborations including musical, video and art."

i haven't really read everything in here but i think a lot of the 'fetishizing' of everyone's age has just as much to do with their marketing as it does the music. like, by the time anyone started giving OF any attention, there was already a fully formed Odd Future 'brand' for lack of a better word. so not only are these 'kids' making this crazy music on their own, they're also better at marketing themselves than almost anyone else, wise beyond their years etc.

holy shit i am older than dj paul

holy shit DJ Paul was like 14 when his earliest underground shit was done? that's way more mindblowing (as far as having a distinct aesthetic from a young age) than OF or practically anyone else mentioned in this thread.

yeah, reading his wikipage is humbling as hell

i haven't really read everything in here but i think a lot of the 'fetishizing' of everyone's age has just as much to do with their marketing as it does the music. like, by the time anyone started giving OF any attention, there was already a fully formed Odd Future 'brand' for lack of a better word. so not only are these 'kids' making this crazy music on their own, they're also better at marketing themselves than almost anyone else, wise beyond their years etc.

― dynamicinterface, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:07 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

who care how good they are at marketing themselves, in that case they should all go become social media experts and work on hot campaigns for the new limited edition mcdonalds brooklyn big mac #consumerism

they are gonna go work at ark music factory when they get out of high school.

Rebecca Black should definitely be in the next wave of "crazy depraved teenage SoCal music geniuses" trend pieces

now thats what i call terrifying music!

"Friday You Eat Shit And Die!"

gotta have my bowl, gotta have rape

who care how good they are at marketing themselves, in that case they should all go become social media experts and work on hot campaigns for the new limited edition mcdonalds brooklyn big mac #consumerism

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:29 PM (18 minutes ago)

maybe they will. they certainly seem to be doing a pretty good job getting people to talk about them.

'people'

"people ask people to watch their scotch
people send people up the moon
when they return, well there isn't much
people be careful not to crest too soon"

— silver jews, 'people'

*up to the moon

If we're lucky, Earl is using his downtime productively and writing several notebooks full of the type of shit that will propel him into legendary status once his next LP eventually ends up happening.

http://anglosaxonblog.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/the-odd-future-of-phillips-exeter-academy/

ah, cool -- more http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=82861