neither of those attributes have anything to do w/whether you make good music or not
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 10:34 (fifteen years ago)
fully-formed aesthetic from the get-go AND they make good music, so
― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 12:17 (fifteen years ago)
lex arent you the dude who told me he never listened to anthrax or watched horror movies as a kid?
― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 12:18 (fifteen years ago)
i watched some horror movies! but not particularly enthusiastically. i don't know what anthrax is, sorry.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 12:20 (fifteen years ago)
i've always found the "they're really talented" the best argument for OF, that's the one that makes me actually feel a bit bad that i can't connect with it myself
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 12:21 (fifteen years ago)
i don't know what anthrax is, sorry.
smh, i'm gonna send you some, check your mailbox!
― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 12:22 (fifteen years ago)
suggest patriot act
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 12:24 (fifteen years ago)
:/
trepidation
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 12:27 (fifteen years ago)
do i get to send u dubstep in return
lex you're just being stubborn about this. so many new rappers are cookie cutter industry clones hedging as close to the established trends as possible that there's absolutely virtue or at least appeal in someone going against the grain or having their own sound, even if those are obviously abstract qualities that don't necessarily produce good music.
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:07 (fifteen years ago)
lol @ whiney constantly acting like practically everyone had the same adolescent musical experiences as him. "you're that one guy who didn't listen to Anthrax as a kid, right?"
lol @ some dude not coming to terms with the fact that someone who didn't listen to punk/metal as a kid and/or watch horror movies and/or play violent video games MIGHT NOT LIKE ODD FUTURE
― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:21 (fifteen years ago)
like p sure a huge chunk of OF's adult audience is grown dudes who know who Pushead is not brit dudes listening to smiths in the rain, but be sure to continue be a total cockmaster
― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:24 (fifteen years ago)
i know who pushead is!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:27 (fifteen years ago)
what's pushead up to these days?
he did the travis barker album cover and i was like
http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5491208/Fuck-Yeah.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Fuck-Yeah
― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:29 (fifteen years ago)
still can't get over that last sentence. that fickle white audience. oh sure they'll LOVE you until you rape someone. then they'll drop you like a hot potato! those people have no loyalty.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:30 (fifteen years ago)
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― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:43 (fifteen years ago)
basically Lil B is writing songs that perfectly explain the phenomenon of OF, and vice-versa
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:45 (fifteen years ago)
agree with Lex that B's 'queerness' (feels weird using this word because there has also been some serious homophobia there — like he had to violently assert his hetero bona fides as the price of toeing that line — altho I don't think he's doing this as much nowadays? "no more angry music" etc) is probably more transgressive (and progressive!) than OF's rapemurder steez
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:48 (fifteen years ago)
lil b is way farther out than odd future on like many levels, thats p obvs right
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:07 (fifteen years ago)
― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:21 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalin
that wasn't remotely what i was saying in that post or in any post fyi
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
i mean i was just laughing at your apparent surprise that THE LEX wasn't jamming ANTHRAX when he was 13
were/are the odd future fans on this thread into the ott agressive arts whiney postulates
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:15 (fifteen years ago)
i mean i know i was only maybe a lil into metal and horror movies as a kid and i do not like odd future so maybe that is why
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:16 (fifteen years ago)
punk/metal - Nohorror movies - To an extentviolent video games - Yeah but i mainly played Nintendo where violence was not overly prevalent
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:19 (fifteen years ago)
yes to everything bloody
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:24 (fifteen years ago)
i have a fondness for gorey horror flicks and like a good amount of hard rock but a little of that kind of stuff goes a long way for me and the OF stuff doesn't really do anything for me.
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:25 (fifteen years ago)
there were other kids who were more into punk/metal/horror than me but I was friends with those kids so some of it disseminated into my consciousness that way — I did play a lot of violent video games tho. and I liked skateboarding.
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:29 (fifteen years ago)
"but i mainly played Nintendo where violence was not overly prevalent"http://www.filibustercartoons.com/Nintendo.php
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:31 (fifteen years ago)
mario ruthlessly slayed thousands of koopa troopas iirc
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
I never realized how sheltered my life was
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
koopas are the women of the world
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:37 (fifteen years ago)
I do remember being pissed off about the grey blood in Mortal Kombat thing though.
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:38 (fifteen years ago)
i mean i was just laughing at your apparent surprise that THE LEX wasn't jamming ANTHRAX when he was 13― some dude, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:09 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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the "aren't you" implied i'm not really up on the lex
― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
i listened to a lot of hardcore but it was all "politically progressive" and vegan and shit
― max, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:50 (fifteen years ago)
that's funny in and of itself! the lex is at least as ubiquitous a poster that's as vocal about what music he hates as you are. xpost
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:51 (fifteen years ago)
lol was totally unaware that you were a teen vegan hardcore bro max
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:51 (fifteen years ago)
it totally makes sense that max had an earnest phase though!
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:56 (fifteen years ago)
max at 16:
http://iamstraightedge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ab7c0_face+tattoo+for+the+vegan+edge+band+earth+crisis.jpg
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
oh so that explains why he has all those str8 edge tattoos on his head
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
i say this every time that picture makes an appearance:
the eyebrows
― goole, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:01 (fifteen years ago)
max what is with those
― goole, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:02 (fifteen years ago)
lol yes nice touch
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
thanks to this thread I am hyper-sensitized to hip-hop misogyny and violence today
like, I just listened to UGK-"Touched", which is pretty... antisocial, in its own way (altho there's a weird kind of justice to it also?)
(for ppl who haven't heard the song: it starts with Bun B getting a gun pulled on him by some punk kid, then (after he whoops the kid's ass) goes into some reflection on what's wrong with 'the kids these days' that's got them thinking they're hardened killers or w/e just cuz of "easy access to 9's" and "exaggerated rhymes"; then Pimp C (RIP) comes in to complain about how his baby-mama's father treats him like a child because he doesn't know he "hangs with killers". but basically most of it is about busting on fake thugs.)
((also includes the [to me] hilariously antisocial line "Yo' ass deserve/ To get bucked real bad in front of your kids / Just to show you what a real type of bitch you is"))
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
you should listen to this album:
http://www.rapreviews.com/coverart/convictsconvicts.jpg
it's ridiculously anti-social
(big mike who was in the geto boys for a while's first group before he went solo)
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
need an exemplary verse or line to fully persuade me — but I'll look into it
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
it's kinda funny that rappers used to rap about their kids and now rappers are kids
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:12 (fifteen years ago)
I wonder if this has to do with a broader generational shift
well, how many groups had the courage to speak out about people that didn't wash they ass in the late 80s?? huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-JKpdklFGw
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:13 (fifteen years ago)