ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

Drake cosign pretty important nowadays

i didn't know minaj turned down that cover, what reasons did she give?

comparing OF to punk/metal/emo => lol

i finally heard "yonkers" and i thought it was boring btw

blood on my dick cause I look like a tampon

drake should say this given that he basically makes tampon rap

Both Drake & Nicki thought they had transcended the level of artist that typically appears on that cover, and they were probably right.

Tyler isn't really on that level yet and probably never will be commercially but I think he has valid reasons to turn down the cover (the least of which being that it would slightly dilute the OF brand and mission statement for him to show up on a cover with mac miller and diggy simmoms)

freshman cover is stupid as fuck and a p much buries whoever is on it? doesn't seem stupid to me to turn it down. not exactly many success stories coming from it.

freshman cover = sports illustrated cover in terms of career

don't really think you need to secondguess the inner lives of music critics to see the connection beween OF and previous edgy, transgressive overhyped acts

they will be performing at sydney opera house that famous whitish building by the sea.

I still think whoever characterized them upthread as LA skate punks who happen to rap got it OTM. besides their music, everything about them is punk - irreverence for authority, transgressing taboos, internal value system. surely its their 'outsider status' and the way they've been able to leverage that that brings thme so many critical plaudits.

punk is so unpunk though, it's boring and played. what taboos do they transgress? j0rdan said this is what all teenagers do, p much. it'd be more transgressive to actually flirt/play with the idea of queerness, like lil b does.

that's one of the points, they don't really transgress any taboos! but it's not just about transgressing taboos - it's about having this fully-formed aesthetic from the get-go, from not 'playing by anybody's rules', which yeah, as you point out, is a well-worn path, which is maybe why critics are so ready to accept these guys. I mean, I think I like them for the same reason I love JAMC.

it's about having this fully-formed aesthetic from the get-go, from not 'playing by anybody's rules'

yeah, i don't see how these are automatically positive qualities though? they're value-neutral

by itself yeah, but when placed in tension with 'rap music today' I feel they become a positive point in many critics' eyes

it's STILL value-neutral!

neither of those attributes have anything to do w/whether you make good music or not

fully-formed aesthetic from the get-go AND they make good music, so

lex arent you the dude who told me he never listened to anthrax or watched horror movies as a kid?

i watched some horror movies! but not particularly enthusiastically. i don't know what anthrax is, sorry.

i've always found the "they're really talented" the best argument for OF, that's the one that makes me actually feel a bit bad that i can't connect with it myself

i don't know what anthrax is, sorry.

smh, i'm gonna send you some, check your mailbox!

suggest patriot act

:/

trepidation

do i get to send u dubstep in return

lex you're just being stubborn about this. so many new rappers are cookie cutter industry clones hedging as close to the established trends as possible that there's absolutely virtue or at least appeal in someone going against the grain or having their own sound, even if those are obviously abstract qualities that don't necessarily produce good music.

lol @ whiney constantly acting like practically everyone had the same adolescent musical experiences as him. "you're that one guy who didn't listen to Anthrax as a kid, right?"

lol @ some dude not coming to terms with the fact that someone who didn't listen to punk/metal as a kid and/or watch horror movies and/or play violent video games MIGHT NOT LIKE ODD FUTURE

like p sure a huge chunk of OF's adult audience is grown dudes who know who Pushead is not brit dudes listening to smiths in the rain, but be sure to continue be a total cockmaster

i know who pushead is!

what's pushead up to these days?

he did the travis barker album cover and i was like

http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5491208/Fuck-Yeah.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Fuck-Yeah

still can't get over that last sentence. that fickle white audience. oh sure they'll LOVE you until you rape someone. then they'll drop you like a hot potato! those people have no loyalty.

I think age is as much of a factor as race in terms of fetishization

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:09 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

basically Lil B is writing songs that perfectly explain the phenomenon of OF, and vice-versa

agree with Lex that B's 'queerness' (feels weird using this word because there has also been some serious homophobia there — like he had to violently assert his hetero bona fides as the price of toeing that line — altho I don't think he's doing this as much nowadays? "no more angry music" etc) is probably more transgressive (and progressive!) than OF's rapemurder steez

lil b is way farther out than odd future on like many levels, thats p obvs right

lol @ some dude not coming to terms with the fact that someone who didn't listen to punk/metal as a kid and/or watch horror movies and/or play violent video games MIGHT NOT LIKE ODD FUTURE

― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:21 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalin

that wasn't remotely what i was saying in that post or in any post fyi

i mean i was just laughing at your apparent surprise that THE LEX wasn't jamming ANTHRAX when he was 13

were/are the odd future fans on this thread into the ott agressive arts whiney postulates

i mean i know i was only maybe a lil into metal and horror movies as a kid and i do not like odd future so maybe that is why

punk/metal - No
horror movies - To an extent
violent video games - Yeah but i mainly played Nintendo where violence was not overly prevalent

yes to everything bloody

i have a fondness for gorey horror flicks and like a good amount of hard rock but a little of that kind of stuff goes a long way for me and the OF stuff doesn't really do anything for me.

there were other kids who were more into punk/metal/horror than me but I was friends with those kids so some of it disseminated into my consciousness that way — I did play a lot of violent video games tho. and I liked skateboarding.

"but i mainly played Nintendo where violence was not overly prevalent"
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/Nintendo.php

mario ruthlessly slayed thousands of koopa troopas iirc

I never realized how sheltered my life was

koopas are the women of the world

I do remember being pissed off about the grey blood in Mortal Kombat thing though.

i mean i was just laughing at your apparent surprise that THE LEX wasn't jamming ANTHRAX when he was 13

― some dude, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:09 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the "aren't you" implied i'm not really up on the lex

i listened to a lot of hardcore but it was all "politically progressive" and vegan and shit

that's funny in and of itself! the lex is at least as ubiquitous a poster that's as vocal about what music he hates as you are. xpost