Search and Destroy : New Order

so what's going on? is that richard x thing, and all this coming out in a massive remix thing soon? (sorry, long thread, haven't taken it all in)

if not, er, let me know.

The Records That Changed My Life: Bernard Sumner of New Order

By: Adrienne Day

July 4, 2005

Bernard Sumner, founding member of Joy Division and New Order, might have blazed a path for generations of angsty dance-punk bands, but he still finds inspiration in rock's glory days.

"I picked the records I got before I became a musician, because I listened to music in a completely different way then," he says. "We just spent seven months making a new record [Waiting for the Sirens' Call], and the last thing you want to do is hear music when you come out of the studio after a 14-hour day."

Ennio Morricone, A Fistful of Dollars: Original Soundtrack (RCA, 1967)
"I grew up in a house without a record player. I wasn't that interested in music. Then I got to the age of 15, 16, and I became completely obsessed with it. My mother finally bought me a player, and the first single I ever bought was 'Ride a White Swan' by T. Rex. But I got fed up with having to get up and put it back on. I thought, 'This is shit, I need to buy an album,' but I didn't know where to start. Then I saw The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, and I was blown away by Morricone's music."

Jimi Hendrix, Electric Ladyland (MCA, 1968)
"I remember there was this kid at school who was a bit of a hippie, and he loved Jimi Hendrix. I said to him, 'It just sounds like a lot of guitar noise,' and he stared at me and said, 'I like it.' So I went out and bought it, played it, just a lot of noise, played it, just a lot of noise -- and then all of the sudden my musical horizon went up a notch, and I really got into Hendrix. It was really weird, like a 'Road to Damascus' moment."

The Rolling Stones, Through the Past Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. 2) (ABKCO, 1969)
"I love the Stones; they've got this kind of raw, nasty, unpolished edge. For a while they got sort of countrified and a bit American sounding, and I didn't like that period, but the early, English-sounding stuff, 'Sympathy for the Devil' and '2,000 Light Years From Home,' I really like."

Roxy Music, Stranded (Virgin, 1973)
"I got a bit older and started going to nightclubs. One club in Manchester was called Pips, and they used to play stuff like Roxy Music. At the time it sounded like nothing you had ever heard before. It had a really fresh sound."

Lou Reed, Transformer (RCA, 1972)
"Another album they played at Pips was Lou Reed's Transformer, which has got a great track on it called 'Vicious.' It was considered a dance track in those days. I loved the riff in it -- dead simple. They're the hardest songs to write, simple songs. You've got to get yourself in the right frame of mind in order to write them."

Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin IV (Atlantic, 1971)
"At school we had a hip geography teacher. He'd tell us that if we paid attention in class, during break time he'd let us use the record player. He used to bring in his records, and one was Led Zeppelin IV. All the kids liked it immediately. It's a corny thing to say, but 'Stairway to Heaven' is a beautiful piece of music."

Iggy Pop, The Idiot (Virgin, 1977)
"I knew Ian Curtis from going to punk gigs. So when we were forming Joy Division, I just gave him the job on the phone. I didn't even listen to him [sing]. When we went around to his house to pick up his PA system, he had 'China Girl' playing. I said, 'Who's this track by?' He said, 'Oh, it's Iggy.' I was like, 'This is fantastic. Bring it to rehearsal tonight, we'll try and rip it up.' So that's how I got to know Ian."

Kraftwerk, Trans-Europe Express (Capitol, 1977)
"Ian Curtis also turned me on to this -- it was revolutionary. We had a record player in the rehearsal room, and people would bring stuff in. We used to play Trans-Europe Express before we went onstage."

Hans Zimmer, The Thin Red Line: Original Soundtrack (RCA, 1998)
"When we owned a nightclub, the Hacienda, we'd just be out all night and then be a mess on Sunday. And after a few years of it and a lot of drug taking, I just got sick of it. So I bought a boat, and now I go sailing every weekend. The biggest place to listen to music is on the boat. And my favorite things to listen to are film soundtracks. They're the opposite of what I make -- they're chilled out."

Player in the League - godlike b-side to Crystal or one of the Get Ready singles that was inexplicably left off of the album.

Get Ready - It may be heresy, but I find this to be their strongest album track-for-track, better than Low-Life, Brotherhood, or Technique. I hate hate hate Smashing Pumpkins, but the awesomeness of New Order somehow even makes Billy Corgan's vocal cameo seem cool.

Regret - duh.

And I quite like the Sub-Culture 12" mix.

Destroy:

Shellshock & State of the Nation - These two tracks seemed like throwaways compared to what came before and after them.

bahahaha!

I just can't believe he said Stairway to Heaven was a beautiful piece of music. I mean that takes the same kind of guts to say that as it does to come out with some of lyrics he does dunnit? That's Barney!

I actually had a similar "aha!" moment with Hendrix about a year ago. Some live version of "Machine Gun".

1) Transmission.
2) She's Lost Control
3) Shadowplay
4) Love Will Tear Us Apart
5) Atmosphere
6) Warsaw

Shadowplay! Warsaw!

I finally got the P.F.D. 1985 Tokyo video for my very own and of course it's flipping my lid. Barney's hair never looked better, I mean he is rocking an impeccable hairstyle, there. The songs are classic, the band is classic, Gillian is classic, Peter Hook needs to explain why he wore such extremely boring sweatpants, though. I mean what??? Where is the leather, man? Where's your IMAGE, right? LOL

Hightlights so far:

Barney actually daring to play bass guitar alongside Hooky on "Confusion"

Barney kicking mic stand in front of the bass drum in rock-and-roll Who style in the middle of "Sunrise".

You know what? I am SICK AND TIRED OF BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE.

I am sick and tired of it. If I ask a DJ to play New Order, ANY New Order, and they choose that song??????????????...ARRRRRRRRGH. Let alone the mother fucker at work who only knows ONE New Order song and it's that...I just want to smack him.

Fucking bore me with Blue Monday for the 7 billionth time ANYDAY instead of that damn BLT shit. You know? Bacon, Lettuce, Tomato?

I am SICK AND TIRED OF AMERICANS WHO ONLY KNOW "EVERY TIME I SEE YOU FALLING" AND DUDE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THE SONG OR THE BAND! THAT'S ALL THEY KNOW IS "EVERY TIME I SEE YOU FALLING"

AND IT SUXXXXXSSSSSSSSSSS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Really, Blue Monday has been overdone to death, I know, but if someone plays me fucking Bizarre Love Triangle again...

That sounds terrible. I hope I never get tired of it - it's one of my favourite songs of all time. Shame Crystal doesn't get played more out.

One thing not mentioned on this thread that I'd search for...

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/graphics/savillefront.jpg

Peter Saville Show Soundtrack

New Order's other main excursion into the soundtrack (aside from the full length Elegia).

Peter Saville is HAWT.

Only sleeve he didn't design y'know.

He looks like Bryan Ferry to me.

(My current ringtone is Blue Monday, Bimble!)

Heheh. Well that's better than Ozzy's Crazy Train which my coworker drives me nuts with on his ringtone AND in his loud headphones all the time (I mean it's a good song, I know, but...).

I actually have the Peter Saville show soundtrack, burned it to CD-R awhile back. Don't remember thinking much of it, but perhaps I'll pull it out here in a sec when I finish ripping records for my blog.

I am SICK AND TIRED OF AMERICANS WHO ONLY KNOW "EVERY TIME I SEE YOU FALLING" AND DUDE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THE SONG OR THE BAND!

But Bim, that means New Order's project worked.

I know...everyone has seen how hilarious this video is...of Barney & Co. dressing up like a late 80's hair metal band. And even I have already seen it, years ago, but I'd forgotten all about it when I saw it played in a club tonight and I want to remind everyone who agrees with me that hair metal sucks ass that this is probably the best video New Order have ever done:

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Also, Bon Jovi can suck my dick, okay?

great video.

Um, I love this video, and I like a lot of hair metal. shrug.

If I ask a DJ to play New Order, ANY New Order, and they choose that song?

"Perfect Kiss" is my go-to New Order song, when New Order is requested. (I am american).

We're playing for England/we're playing this song/arrive derci it's one on one/

I've got the Rocking Carol flexi. I am so much more goth than you, it's not funny.
Did you hear me? I have the New Order Rocking Carol flexi on my hard drive. That means
I am a hell of a lot more goth than you.

rocking carol is shit and you know it.

out loud, to self, before clicking on thread: "bimble woke this up"

also, I saw New Order on the Power Corruption & Lies tour at a place called Billy Barty's Roller Fantasy, they closed w/Ceremony & I now have a pristine copy of the show, so I am more goth than Bimble by half

I've been playing 'World in Motion' again and again lately !!

also, I saw New Order on the Power Corruption & Lies tour at a place called Billy Barty's Roller Fantasy, they closed w/Ceremony & I now have a pristine copy of the show, so I am more goth than Bimble by half

I have this. 'Cries and Whispers' is pretty great. Barney's comment before 'ICB', too: "If you like this, you must like Ronald Reagan. If you like this, you'll like fucking anything."

& you're more goth than Bimble by half.

I agree with Cookie, Youn and Gareth: let's lose 'Blue Monday'!!

Loads of people upthread mention 'Age of Consent', then Ally (I think) turns up and says 'why does no one ever mention "Age of Consent"?' ... myself, I've never heard it.

Search a lot including

Temptation
Bizarre Love Triangle
1963
World in Motion
True Faith
Regret
All The Way -- now this is one underrated New Order track
Love Less

- yes, I am stating the obvious.

Maybe lose Thieves Like Us, Shellshock, State of the Nation

oh, THIS is 'age of consent'?

Lose 'Thieves Like Us'? Together with 'Lonesome Tonight' you could make a case for it being the best thing they ever did. (You'd be wrong, but not far off.)

More underrated goodness:

Hurt
Sooner Than You Think
Way of Life

Following the Movement poll, I've been obsessed by Chosen Time

I saw New Order in 1984 when they played Perfect Kiss for the first time ever and they also played Decades as an encore. So there.

you guys are all SO goth!

I saw New Order in 1984 when they played Perfect Kiss for the first time ever and they also played Decades as an encore. So there.

I've got a cock
It looks like the M1
It's long and thin
It's got a white line down it

It curls about
It curls about
There's crashes on it
And service stations too

For Brits, have just noticed that Spotify has the deluxe versions of all the LPs online now. Am going to go and binge!

Can you explain that last comment?

Spotify - anyone heard of it?

x-post what HI DERE said, but also:

Spotify: http://www.spotify.com/en/

Allows you to play back albums in full over the internet, legally. They have added all New Order's 80s albums very recently, previously they only had Technique and Low Life.