Knew-Age music: nu-balearic hippies who fell asleep on the beach and woke up staring at the stars.

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some of the stuff in this thread could probably still be called "balearic"? i am having trouble drawing a line between the two styles, except in a "i know it when i see it" sense. the hatchback mix on 20jfg is SUPER "new age" and not very "balearic" at all.

max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/2011/03/20jfg-podcast-hatchback/

max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

surely chris willits belongs here

akm, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:26 (fifteen years ago)

ya i mean actual new age and 80s-style minimalism are definitely part of the balearic spectrum, maybe not the synthier horror stdk-type stuff tho? and esp not chris willits or jesu or whoever, which seems to me to have more to do w/'dark' ambient or shoegaze or even like post dooooom

i say this in like every thread but if you haven't listened to those padilla and phil mison mixtapes on test pressing you haven't lived

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 07:10 (fifteen years ago)

really liking this new hatchback too, esp touches like the slo-mo ambient sax in "orinoco waltz". i will listen to this way more than the last album for sure

also feeling the mix, esp amor real – global communication vs. jon anderson. and i think i need more jd emmanuel in my life

they were mentioned in the op but i haven't heard any talk of maxxi & zeus yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyJYriDyl8w&feature=related

i feel like that track goes balearic the second you hear dennis hopper

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

yes that is my jaaaam

max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

That was the track that gave birth to this thread.

The Struggle tops it though, just.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngGNuf_zwFI

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

the struggle is also p great, hard for me to choose a favorite. both sides of both releases have been spectacular imo

other things i think could go in this thread:

cfcf - b aldrian
arp
most if not all of "the laziest river"
stellar om source
also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcSlXC99GTo

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:28 (fifteen years ago)

wow that first Maxxi & Zeus track is great

van smack, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:36 (fifteen years ago)

i kinda have a hard teasing out the 'knew-age' angle on this, like what sounds & structures make something pure moodz rather than chillwave or cosmic or w/e but:

jeffrey rodens seeds of happiness on new albion is p fantastic just small mellow movements
the new forma 230 record on specturm spools has a cosmic synth mindfulness
maybe the parasails tape?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLLAmmqElzM

anyway i love so much of this stuff or at least stuff that touches on this stuff

spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE1SJkkCTcI

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oObz1tqLfk

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

WHITE RAINBOW + STAGHARE
SHHOOOPEEY SHOOP MEGA TUFF HOUSE REMIX

^ this is great btw

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

there is a real band called beach wolf?

Dominique, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

theres a band called neon beach wolf, apparently

spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

The guitarist in that band is also in Blackk Cystal Girls

jaxon, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:39 (fifteen years ago)

a few tracks on the last blues control album could probably be included here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZeKOK1yCc

kinda have a hard teasing out the 'knew-age' angle on this, like what sounds & structures make something pure moodz rather than chillwave or cosmic or w/e

i guess it's kinda like max was saying, you know it when you hear it? nu-age seems to be crisper, could be aiming for analog or early digital/fairlight, but it would not slather layers of tape distortion on itself like you tend to find in more ambient chillwave stuff. i think there's less difference btwn cosmic and nu-age, but i don't think nu-age really includes foregrounded carpenter-style synth lines while cosmic prob would. cosmic is (like balearic) also less of a genre and more of a descriptor, so spacey new age or minimalist stuff could be cosmic (like steve roach or tomita) but at the same time a dance/boogie track or even some prog can also be cosmic imo. idk i'm obviously no expert but i think it's fun to parse through this stuff

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

Was trying to do this myself.

nu-wave I think is really beatless and would never be aimed at a dancefloor, whilst most balearic stuff has its roots in an Ibizan dancefloor.

great essay on Cosmic as a state of mind as it relates to music here

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i think of the knew age stuff as having 'cleaner' synth sounds & tones than chillwave & also less concerned with time & place - its less structured more considered abt ~states of consciousness~ & even more ambient than cosmic, i guess

spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

it's blurring the line between cosmic (in a schultze, tangerine dream sense) and new age for sure. People used to kind of make a big deal about the distinction, right? These new acts seems like it's nbd

blank, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

whilst most balearic stuff has its roots in an Ibizan dancefloor

not sure that the 'dancefloor' part is nec true, i think the whole style developed because the djs would play for ppl from sunset to sunrise with a whole lot of warming up and coming down in settings like the beach and cafes and stuff. and a lot of this was straight-up new age/windham hill type music

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

which is why hathcback says he isn't balearic anymore but is actually more balearic than ever ha

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

this is an unhelpful distinction but im pretty sure a big part of this is that balearic is "hip" and new age is not

max, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://bandcamp.com/files/49/52/495228764-1.jpg

not hip?

Lamp, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

tbh its hard to tell these days ys.jpg

max, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

iasos is still around and lives in marin i guess. i think he does more video-art type stuff nowadays, but he still produces crazy stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8aQTYl3uiQ

a friend of mine booked him to play in sf but ended up backing out when he claimed it'd take 2 days of prep to properly set up the show

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wasYNNfnfVE

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

idk i think new age is pretty 'hip'

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

where do you think all those triangles came from

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

but this is probably more true wrt the drone scene or visuals/cover art than music. i guess people aren't really reviving pan flutes and whatnot

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

Been listening to a lot of new age stuff recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTmSBmIMTLw

mmmm, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ShcbFLuzrM&feature=related

mmmm, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

saw a few sealed Iasos records recently. thought they were just reissues. so he's still putting out stuff?

jaxon, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

i found a paul speer record a few weeks ago that i was claiming was the new Transfer Station Blue. found another one recently that's paul speer and david lanz and they do another version of the jam Allegro. it's even more jammin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz0Uqbs0jSg

jaxon, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

and if i'm any reference to what's hip (heh), pretty much all i've been listening to at home for the past year or 2 is new age

jaxon, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

The yoga studio I used to go to played this all the time, so I actually bought it (in 2000 or so?) but it has a real new age/space/Tangerine Dream vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9cbf4_eO28

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

Yoga classes are great for new age music!

mmmm, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

They are -- it gave me something to do while listening to music/something to listen to while exercising.

Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

saw a few sealed Iasos records recently. thought they were just reissues. so he's still putting out stuff?

he's putting out dvds for sure. whether or not the music is by him i duno, i think it ranges btwn him and various other dudes (based on his website/youtube portfolio heh). regardless, the aesthetic is still there. and i'd be willing to bet the records were originally private-press or some such thing, in which case the reissue may as well be new

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

i mean you can always ask milton parker about any bay area-related new ageyness

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:57 (fifteen years ago)

iasos also did the video for teengirl fantasy's "cheaters", further cementing his hipness

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:59 (fifteen years ago)

another thought- is anyone out there ripping off global communication? i guess you could make an argument for oneohtrix but it seems like the next logical step

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 31 March 2011 02:04 (fifteen years ago)

there are parts of the twells & christensen release on digitalis that sound like amped up versions of the more plodding & ominous moments in 76:14 although this cld v much just be a connection i made in my head

Lamp, Thursday, 31 March 2011 03:00 (fifteen years ago)

haha the pedro magina tape on not not fun ('nineteen hundred and eighty-five') is labelled 'new age' in itunes... it doesnt sound v new age tho really

ban lex pretend (Lamp), Friday, 1 April 2011 02:43 (fifteen years ago)

i see what you mean abt the twells & christensen but it's a bit of a stretch, i agree about the plodding and ominous part tho, ha. i guess i am getting tired of dark and doooomy takes on ambient and wish people were interested in other textures. which probably is why i like a lot of what's on this thread

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 1 April 2011 02:55 (fifteen years ago)

really liked the pulse emitter tape root strata put out last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM7a3A-hcGk

meditative music 4 is v. good too.

original bgm, Friday, 1 April 2011 04:09 (fifteen years ago)

^really like this after one listen

the more atmospheric end of seahawks could totally fit here, maybe not the edits but definitely the 'tender abyss' 3" cd-r thing and 'vision quest one'

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 1 April 2011 08:02 (fifteen years ago)

Sun Araw are pretty similar to the seahawks,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E2OxiaPgDI

the whole album keeps the costal drift vibe nicely

my opinionation (Hamildan), Friday, 1 April 2011 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, I think the pulse emitter guy is really coming into his own lately. I read an interview where he said he was taking more of a compositional approach and cutting down on the number of releases to spend more time writing. seems to be working, imo - definitely liked everything I've heard over the last year or so and found prior material to be more of a crap shoot.

x-post

original bgm, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

^i think emeralds have been taking a similar approach too. i endorse this trend.

to me sun araw sound like a more fleshed-out version of ducktails, which is not a bad thing but they are definitely exploring more chillwave-y sounds. i hadn't heard the older stuff but that track is almost on some sunburned hand of the man shit... not sure i hear seahawks per se but i can get down

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 1 April 2011 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

I wasn't too keen on 301 Symphony but Lord of the Isles is in general a really good producer. Love this one so much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqOj0Ivy_X0

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 10:18 (twelve years ago)

seven months pass...

great album i just discovered:

http://www.secondlanguagemusic.com/SL028.html

gr8080, Sunday, 11 January 2015 20:47 (eleven years ago)

Great mix: http://m.soundcloud.com/growingbinrecords/bobby-beige-on-ibiza

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 11 January 2015 22:08 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

this Hybrid Palms album is pretty sweet

https://soundcloud.com/soundsofthedawn/hybrid-palms-pacific-image-from-pacific-image-cassette-out-march-22

brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 04:04 (nine years ago)

Great mix: http://m.soundcloud.com/growingbinrecords/bobby-beige-on-ibiza

― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:08 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not an indie-hater or anything but hearing the voices of Kozelek, Malkmus, etc pop up on here is a serious buzzkill

Wimmels, Sunday, 18 September 2016 20:00 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

the new vakula EP is off the chain, my dudes

https://soundcloud.com/vakula/vakula-metaphors-lp-coming-up-on-leleka_2017

the late great, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:41 (eight years ago)

sorry it's a double EP

the late great, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:41 (eight years ago)

Nice

calstars, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:06 (eight years ago)

severely underutilized thread, i should post more stuff here

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:29 (eight years ago)

Same, this is great stuff

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:42 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

So this is not new music, but a friend recently posted this on FB; I only knew Luís Cília as a protest song folkie, so was surprised to discover he did ambient like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZNIdxg0VQk

That in turn lead me to this playlist:

https://playmoss.com/en/david-mas/playlist/lusofonias

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 24 March 2018 18:22 (eight years ago)

this is a great playlist, thanks for posting

ogmor, Monday, 26 March 2018 09:01 (eight years ago)

Welcome! Excited by the (very remote) possibility that the next digger target might be a country where I have a head start :)

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 26 March 2018 10:51 (eight years ago)

That Vakula album/double EP really is incredible.

toby, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 12:42 (eight years ago)

thank you and for gods sake how is everyone else not completely losing their minds over it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r50dBMjhqvU&feature=youtu.be

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:39 (eight years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmUE3TkW8AAA2s5.jpg

calzino, Sunday, 1 April 2018 12:54 (eight years ago)

wrong thread obv!

calzino, Sunday, 1 April 2018 12:54 (eight years ago)

That excerpt is definitley harshing my buzz :(

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 1 April 2018 13:39 (eight years ago)

not quite in the chilled out kosmische spirit of the new Vakula ep, for sure.

calzino, Sunday, 1 April 2018 13:47 (eight years ago)

two months pass...

Don't think I've heard one of his albums since The Soft Wave but the new Arp record is great and probably a fit for this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ymaQyKYlEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i07c7uR9pMc

groovypanda, Friday, 29 June 2018 12:54 (seven years ago)

https://open.spotify.com/album/37JQEtmiM3wMQs2JVm7qvR?si=QL9FWftCRrOgMwz_8Opmkg

calstars, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:12 (seven years ago)

New Eleventeen Eston lp (on Growing Bin) is sounding great on first listen. I really dug Delta Horizon and "Indian Blue" is like the ultimate hazey smooth smoked out underwater balearic basement demo. Must revisit the Wilson/Tanner disc at some point..

brimstead, Sunday, 1 July 2018 23:23 (seven years ago)

Never heard Delta Horizon but it’s sounding great, thanks for the recommendation B. This is what makes ilx great

calstars, Monday, 2 July 2018 00:04 (seven years ago)

beverly glenn-copeland

flopson, Monday, 2 July 2018 00:14 (seven years ago)

that Eleventeen Eston is really special

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:41 (seven years ago)

Something about the production I guess has an Ariel pink flavor to me

calstars, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)

the back cover is kind of hilarious.. he lists some "instruments" he plays on it but i think they're all model numbers of assorted fishing gear???

brimstead, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 22:08 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

I’m a huge fan of benedek in general, this is pretty blissed out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORldCGNHFiI

brimstead, Monday, 21 December 2020 22:22 (five years ago)


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