ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/touring/odd-future-cuts-set-short-at-billboard-sxsw-1005082832.story

^This story better explains why they stormed off. Before you guys get all bitchy and snarky about it.

front page of the ny times today

most overrated group in the history of the world iirc

bay city rollers never lived up to their hype either

Big & Rich-gate all over again ymmv

Billboard Is Cool. That Show Was Stupid.

I was there, they def overreacted. Kinda moving from cool punk brattiness to Axl Rose diva bullshit with that move imo.

i feel bad for them that they so clearly want to perform for regular kids and real fans but have been taken hostage by the music business and allowed to only play shows at industry/media-heavy events and cities

It's what happens when you reach the top of the mountain.

mixes suck sometimes, power through and deal w/ it

this was my fav tyler tweet of SXSW btw

OMG I'm At This Restaurant Cracker Barrel In Texas OMG

slug from atm0sphere made a post on philaflav the other day about how these guys should make sure to bring their own sound guy bcuz of stuff like this

good advice for any performing artist anywhere

yah he was on some ms cleo ish about this happening

xpot This makes me wonder about their financial situation if they can afford to have a sound guy with them at all times. I mean since they have the image of DIY one of them can do it. But a lot of artists have had this incident happened. Anticipating 100 blog posts of Odd Future losing it in the next couple of days about this.

arghh xxpost I mean.

whatever, this is just part of the time honored process

OFWGKTARIP

from today's Pfork interview:

Another song on the album is called "Fish", and the whole vibe of it is crazy. I'm talking about being a fisherman but the words I use and the way I put it makes people think like I'm talking about getting girls, raping 'em, having 'em in my basement. Crazy shit like that. But I'm really talking about being a fisherman.

CLEVER ISNT IT

Don't know haven't heard it.

http://www.austinpost.org/files/articles/LESCLAYPOOL.jpg

CHECK MY FRENCH

while we're repping alternarock faves of the 1990s, i just realized that the beat for Yonkers sounds like the intro to "Jizzlobber" by Faith No More

LOL

Hood Internet where are you when we need you

the beginning of the pfork interview is really earnest in an endearing way

Didn't see this posted above (tho god knows coulda missed it), but with the caveats that a.) this is posted on POETRYFOUNDATION.ORG and b.) it references actual Futurism and Mayakovsky, it's really kinda good:

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/journal/article.html?id=241404

The Odd Future bunch never mistake acting nuts for actually being nuts, and what makes their music so easy to excuse, and enjoy, is the sense of living, breathing kids underneath all the ugliness. If not by design, this is at least a convenient way to retain some sense of perspective—for artist and listener alike. Their insanity is infectious, the candor just a little too human, even relatable, to ever be fully mistaken for a twisted unconscious. At the same time, the sophistication that informs much of OFWGKTA’s output clearly marks them as children of a particular Los Angeles scene. They are, at once, wacky skaters whose antics are solidly in the Big Brother/Jackass tradition, and aesthetic terrorists who know that filth isn’t just fun—it’s also, when employed in the most dispassionate, pastiche-driven way imaginable, its own kind of creative mischief-making. OFWGKTA isn’t looking to shock audiences—they’re out to show off their own desensitization.

bethlehem shoals = best writer

OFWGKTA isn’t looking to shock audiences—they’re out to show off their own desensitization.

based on the minuscule exposure I've had to these guys, this seems super OTM

yah good points being made, they're extremely pomo

yes that sentence seems like some sort first nail on the head moment

seems like their own desensitization would result in shocked audiences - it's kinda circular imo

"look at earl! he's imbibing all sorts of drugs! look at him talk about rape and death! he's only 16 btw!"

***shocked audiences everywhere***

um yeah i think they have shocked a lot of ppl & probably will shock more ppl as they continue to get bigger

congrats on conflating "effect" with "intent"

right, but does it really matter if it's effect or intent?

i mean, my intent may not have been to spill a glass of red wine on the carpet-- my intent was to reach for the TV remote and change the channel-- but once the wine's been spilled, the end effect is the same as if i had intentionally spilled the wine

wait did you change the channel or not

once i heard odd future, yes

i don't even

*puts on headphones, goes back to listening to metal*

don't feel bad, ilxor, i remember when i foolishly tried to suggest that the marketability of OF's shock value might be an interesting thing to talk about

ilxor's problem isn't that his points are stupid (tho they are) but that his style of argument is incredibly childish

his style of argument

aka "whiney lite"

right, but does it really matter if it's effect or intent?

It matters if you are analyzing their work, which is what that poetry site was doing.

whiney argues like an adult most of the time

different intent, same effect, who cares xp

whiney argues like an adult most of the time

???? o_O

different intent, same effect, who cares

shut up

^^

style of argument is incredibly childish

― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.)

I speak to people as they deserve to be spoken to.

seriously tho, OFWGKTA are shocking ppl, does it really matter how they go about it? i dont think so