ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

my point wasn't that their money is better spent elsewhere to maximize the impact of their advertising, just that they're giving money to people they hate and spinning it like they're the winners, which struck me as odd

it's probably marginal ad money if fuckin adidas is taking over eskay's site

yeah i'm sure the actual amount is negligible, i'm just thinking of all the different ways they could've pulled a 'gotcha' on NR now that they've gotten this big without their support, and this is very low on the list

i mean it's hardly the first time NR has shitted on or ignored an artist but taken their label's $ and run their ugly banner ad, and when that has happened it's felt more like NR being subversive/mischievous than the artist

my point wasn't that their money is better spent elsewhere to maximize the impact of their advertising, just that they're giving money to people they hate and spinning it like they're the winners, which struck me as odd

― some dude, Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:59 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

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lol

haha

I'm no media buy expert but from what I understand these campaigns just get blasted out into preconfigured networks of blogs and websites, if XXL bought into a uground rap network and 2db sources ads from that network neither side has a lot of control over the process unless somebody objects and it sounds like neither side would at this point, one side's lolling and the other's cashing a check

everybody wins!

oh yeah, i agree and totally get that. just saying usually in this kind of situation i'd imagine one side is lolling AND cashing a check and the other's doing neither.

i mean this ties into what i was saying way upthread about how their crazy rebellious teenager image kind of gives them an easy pass to do or say whatever and no matter what the joke is presumed to be on somebody else, just in this case i don't really get how that works

when an ad on 2dopeboyz links to a webpage that says fuck 2dopeboyz, that's kind of funny

sounds like if tyler threw a rock through a school window you'd be all like "haha fool now your
property taxes are going up!" which is kind of missing the point

not that I advocate throwing rocks through school windows

or fucking 2dopeboyz for that matter

if he paid money for the rock that analogy might almost make sense, i guess

xp just one at a time then?

if his record label paid for the rock that analogy might almost make sense

tyler (or his record label) paid money for promotion and he got it, this thread's already been at the top of SNA for half the day because of that ad, so y'know, money well spent

i mean those are shitty blogs that totally deserve to be dissed and laughed at for being run by odious people with boring taste who cynically cash checks and puff their chests out about how 'important' their content aggregator sites are, i'm just saying there's probably ways to do that without putting money in their pockets from your own project's ad budget and telling all your twitter followers to go give their site more hits and click on the ad they probably get paid for by the click

it's like if your idea of showing your disapproval for an artist was BUYING their album just so you could throw the cd in the trash

rmde @ the OF post on their tumblr about sxsw all like "please come see us, we want some fans there, not just ppl waiting for the next act..." -- as if they aren't the most hotly tipped act of the week

i'd buy kid cudi's album and throw it in the trash if he could see me do it

i'd buy kid cudi's album and write "FUCK KID CUDI" on it if i could strap it to his forehead & force him to walk around a public place with it on for a few hours

yeah those are cool ideas

it's not like he would see a dime off my solitary album purchase anyway

corporate rap mp3 blogs still suck

xp but if everyone who bought the album for the sole purpose of discarding it followed that same train of thought....

yeah true...but i mean Edward saying this nontroversy getting a few message board threads bumped a month before the album's release date means these ads actually will sell them some records and put money in the artist's pocket is a way more far-fetched rationalization than the pretty direct transaction of a bunch of people clicking an ad on a site that probably gets paid extra for every clickthru. if Nah Right's crime is being boring cynical robots who repost their e-mail inbox and collect ad revenue for it, what kind of wicked revenge actually contributes to that revenue? (xpost)

tonight i'm gonna pull a switch-aroo
do you mind if i clickthru you

when u clickthru ur mind is freed by oppressive limiting grip of 2dopeboyz & your life is changed forever tho

Nobody's ad rates are determined by clickthrus in 2011.

that's the reason hip hop sucks in 2011
it's the clickthrus man

oh ok, goes to show my lack of knowledge about web advertising, in 2011 or otherwise

seriously though, if i trashed some local act in my paper and their 'revenge' was buying a full page ad that helped pay for my freelance check, even if the ad had some kind of subliminal sneak diss at me in it, i'd be like OK cool works for me suckers

I remember when Mercury Rev's ad on Pitchfork contrasted their low rating for some late-period album with a bunch of positive comments and a PITCHFORK WTF?????? I'd def vote that a win for Pfork in the long run.

lol

think tyler already addressed yr concerns at the beginning of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwvStS553WE

well I'm glad you have the "they're so young and crazy and YOUNG, don't try to understand them!" narrative to fall back on when the roundabout attempts at logic get old.

it's really not that hard to understand

corporate rap mp3 blogs still suck

want to let you know that this did not go unlol'd

Ha thanks! I was unduly proud of that one

lol these guys

they're performing at the mtv woodie awards right now or w/e

anyway -- yonkers beat starts and the first thing tyler says is "what up shake"

and then tyler raps the first verse from off stage as a midget dressed as him (incl green ski mask) mimes the rapping of the verse

now they're doing sandwitches, stage dive will happen soon i'm sure

based god is in the building as well

my fucking dvr stopped taping in the middle of aziz's intro WTF

i bet it's on mtv.com

if not then youtube

the tyler + lil b twitter back + forth warmed my heart and i don't care who knows it

hahaha how have i not noticed that tyler's twitter bio reads: ††† OFWGKTA ▲▲▲ 666 STRAIGHT EDGE

††† WE ARE ALL WITCH HOUSE ▲▲▲

i never really understand people's commercial expectations for these guys. is it just general 'sky's the limit' enthusiasm or does anyone actually think they're gonna knock young money off radio playlists instead of, i dunno, getting the hip hop slot at next year's mtvu woodie awards?

― some dude, Friday, March 11, 2011 9:08 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

a year earlier than i predicted! so proud of our boys for rocketing into the Asher Roth/Cool Kids slot

except asher roth & cool kids suck shit

literally, I have watched them perform this act