frat rap

yeah, i've been holding onto this theory that dubstep is the new jam music

this seems like a claim that you'd want to support with figures or links to sales stuff or something, even with the qualifier "like" in front of the "95%"

dude, when ppl on 4chan have 400 post threads about dubstep, they're not talking about "King Midas Sound" and shit

I don't think more made up statistics is what aero was asking for

Thanks to this type of thread I've developed a morbid fascination with these types of bands. I actually like Widespread Panic a bit, but I was already familiar w/ them since I have some frat bros in the extended family. never listened to OAR tho. As someone whos aspires to be involved in the performing side of music someday, should I be worried about lettting this stuff into my head? I'd hate to start busting out the DMB's "Warehouse" riff by accident.

As for dubstep being the new jam music, thats OTM. I started going to EDM parties in Portland in 2007, when it was the last tail end of jaded techno scenesters (glory days: 1999), a smattering of E'd up baby gangsters, and a young hardcore raver group in attendance. Then dubstep hit, and I see football jocks from high school at all the big raves now. I knly know this b/c I see it on facebook, not from attending

Fascinating info-graphic of Widespread Panic's career of touring, which starts around the time the Dead release "Touch of Grey" solidifying the jam band thing among Gen Xers in Southern college towns. Roachclips and golf clubs.

http://www.thebarnpresents.com/wp-content/uploads/wsp25.jpg

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http://www.thebarnpresents.com/wp-content/uploads/wsp25.jpg

my theory is based purely on personal anecdotes etc -- just feel like lots of stoners i come across are listening more to beat based music nowadays, and that leans a lot towards dubstep since it's not dance oriented

if those guys ever listen to some black metal high it's gonna totally broaden their horizons

it took me way too long to figure out what those mysterious boxes and arrows on that chart were

O.A.R. is well known for its live performances because the band often creates variations to songs at each concert, making it rare to hear a song played the exact same way twice. The band also incorporates jam elements in their concerts, resulting in many of their live songs running anywhere between 5 and 18 minutes each. O.A.R.'s unique concert performances have led many people to believe they are one of the top live bands today.

At their live shows, O.A.R. has been known to cover a variety of songs by artists such as Bob Dylan, U2, the Grateful Dead, Billy Joel, The Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel, and Bob Marley.

Genre

They seem to lie between several genres. We should at least add ska as a genre.
Barrett Ross (talk) 21:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

- do you have any rationale for this? They don't feature a big selection of ska.. only a few songs. They definetly used to be on the jam circuit though. If anything, their genre should be Corporate Pop, as the creative aspect of their music has been lost to the unwilling mainstream.

"my theory is based purely on personal anecdotes etc -- just feel like lots of stoners i come across are listening more to beat based music nowadays, and that leans a lot towards dubstep since it's not dance oriented"

Except lots of people dance to it! Makes sense tho. And it neatly avoids the latent "disco sucks" mentality of the US general public. SHould we really be hat bummed that rave is finally crossing over here? Maybe something good will come out of it

is there a name for the self-perpetuating cycle of distribution that happens at American colleges, like the scene of a doe-eyed freshmen arriving on campus and being given a burned Pavement CD with a "Listen to this! It'll blow yer mind" uttered by some wizened, alt junior

At one point it would have been 'college radio trainee orientation'

Haha Ned served that function for me as a homeschooled 14 yr old getting into Dinosaur Jr

Wait...I did? How?

Dude, allmusic.com changed my life. I think I read your review of "Where You Been" and DL'd the whole thing, eventually buying all the albums.

Ned's reviews got me into Nick Drake iirc

at a similar age

Really, I spent an obscene amount of time tracking down bands on there. Anything that mentioned "stuttering feedback snorts" etc. was guaranteed a listen. Once you get a fuzz habit, the tendency is to push it as far as it can go.

Homeschooling can really fuck a kid up, but by golly I was hip. I was pretty sure I was the only kid in town who listened to "Hex". Then again, I didnt know any other kids : p

try breaking out of your shell

Nah, its very refined and cosy in here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JOl3YaDCQI

Nutty. Well, glad to be able to help! Seriously, that's pretty cool.

i hate to be this guy, but franklin this isn't THAT ned raggett

Please, I'm trying to help him here and you are shattering his crystal palace.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

also like frat audiences are responsible for like 95% of the dubstep bought in america, mostly by people youve never heard of, with like the other 5% being the dubstep pitchfork writes about and we post about

― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:04 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

seriously over the last year or so i've had so many confused conversations with people about dubstep who're like 'oh rad you like dubstep?? who do you like??' and i'll mention some names and they'll mention some names and we'll slowly realize there's literally no overlap

i've been trying to figure out why this is

dubstep is just an illusion hoos

flopson otm about dubstep!

i had genuinely assumed mac miller was a comedian. rather than just "as morally reprehensible as a comedian"

saying you like "dubstep" is like saying you like "pop" or "rock" or "indie"

yeah i guess it is the 2k11 equivalent of using "techno" to mean "all electronic dance music"

its definitely an internet myopia thing on your part HOOS. Like the circles we travel (Pitchfork, Quitus, Dusted, Brooklyn Vegan, blogs, ILX) treat dubstep as this post-Burial thing of murky sounds and moody textures (King Midas Sound, 2562, James Blake, Mount Kimbie, Shakleton, Zomby). Meanwhile--mostly thanks to Caspa & Rusko--there's been a whole other scene taking over bro-dudes who are into things like Coachella and Deadmu5 (Skrillex, Bassnectar, Trillbass, Boregore).

Problem is, rock critics only cover the former, and I think I like the brostep latter BETTER.

its def like when you say "indie rock" you mean Arcade Fire and Sonic Youth, but to other people it means Owl City and She & Him and Mumford & Sons and Kings Of Leon (ie, shit that gets half the writeups of the shit we like but sells enormo numbers)

its def like when you say "indie rock" you mean Arcade Fire and Sonic Youth, but to other people it means Owl City and She & Him and Mumford & Sons and Kings Of Leon (ie, shit that gets half the writeups of the shit we like but sells enormo numbers)

this is otm but in order to retain my cheery disposition I have to pretend he is notm

I would def lump Arcade Fire in with Owl City and She & Him and Mumford & Sons and Kings Of Leon and not with Sonic Youth.

challops4u

wow, I must be really out of touch -- I'd have assumed quote-unquote "fratty" electronic tastes would run more toward that big grinding straightahead electroish stuff like Deadmau5 or Skrillex

Whiney mentioned both of them a few posts back!

oops sorry Whiney, you just said that! but do folks really conceive of that stuff as "dubstep????" I guess I think of it as some kind of electro / house post-Daft Punk world where everything is big and obvious and robotic because Human After All somehow convinced bros that you could listen to electronic music in the same big-slabs-of-noise spirit you'd listen to nu-metal

but do folks really conceive of that stuff as "dubstep????"

They do now. In fact that post of Whiney's so perfectly crystallizes the split in conception/definition at work that I won't be able to think of it any other way.

xp bros listened to Prodigy and Fatboy Slim too..

yeah, googling "skrillex dubstep" really firmly answered that question for me. meanwhile, the 8 billion publicity emails I've gotten about him all just say "electro."

xpost -- prodigy seems exactly right!

Crystal Method too. All that 'mainstream' big beat stuff, bros listened to. I remember someone 10 years ago - could've been on ilm - making fun of bros for saying they liked electronica "because they listened to Sasha & Digweed."

Justice surely is another bridge at work here.

where's your head at

btw, I imagine it's super-rare that I type the exact same sentence as Whiney about something, but:

what hath asher roth wrought

^ this is, verbatim, the sentence I used when I heard Tom Hanks's son rapping about Northwestern ("White and Purple") and shouting out dorms

i followed rapping hanks son on twitter for a min, he wasnt even funny :/

i'm the rappin hanks and i'm here to say