Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

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i quite like that song "stay"

― Slumpman (Slump Man), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

"Aerial" is closing in

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

speak english!

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

i think he means that the kate bush thread, with approximately 1/2 the posts of this one, is closing in on this one.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

yes

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

well not anymore, now it's pulling away again

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

oh no it don't!

― edde (edde), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

I respect his letter -- and I'm completely in agreement with him. Like Dave [Matthews] says, I'm not saying Saddam doesn't deserve to be force-fed his own severed scrotum while we shove a bayonette up his ass, but we're going about it in an entirely ass-backwards manner -- completely torching allied relations left and right and further alienating the increasingly volatile "Arab Street" in the process. I don't really buy the notion that Iraq had anything to do with the attacks of September 11, 2001. And in the year and change since that fateful day -- what have we really accomplished? Yes, we've kicked a lot of butt in Afghanistan and dropped a lot of expensive hardware on people -- but the threats we faced on September 10th remain unchanged -- we *DON'T* have Bin Laden, we *HAVEN'T* dismantled Al Qaeda, we have *NO IDEA* where he/they are and we face *THE SAME* threats as before. Right, so we rooted him out of Afghanistan (we think) and we scattered the Taliban like roaches (we think).....what else? NOTHING. If we go into Iraq -- OSAMA WINS! He *WANTS* us to go to war with Iraq. It plays RIGHT into his hands. It will only STRENGTHEN his support in the Arab world -- At this point, he's like fuckin' William "Braveheart" Wallace to the average man west of Athens and south of Gibraltar -- He wants to portray the image that THE WEST is at war with ISLAM. If we go into Iraq, that's exactly the way it's going to look. And if his groundswell of support builds (which it will), that's exactly the way it's going to be. And that's severely fucked up.

But....at the end of the day, DMB's music still bores me to absolute tears.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), February 12th, 2003.

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Totally OTM and prescient. And this didn't even take into account the purposefully overhyped WMD canard and the hamfisted way this Administration would mismanage the war. He's right about DMB, too.

― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 19 September 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

This will likely be the last time I dig up this thread for quite some time. But I had meant for awhile to continue on from the small DMB phase I got on about a month ago because I thought "well if I've pulled out the first two albums then eventually I'm going to have to reevaluate 'Crash'" which is the project I have found myself undertaking today. And it really is where the rot set in isn't it this album?

But before I talk about the album specifically, I want to share a memory I have of Dave Matthews and his entourage coming into this restaurant I worked in...it was after he had been on David Letterman for the first time, but I do believe it was well before Crash had come out. Anyway, at the time this happened, it was like he's just made it. He was a star now. And him and his group of people stayed later at the restaurant than anyone and I began to really resent him because I wanted to go home for the night, and we couldn't because of his table and I figured he had this huge swollen ego now that he'd made it. So when he finally decided to leave, we all stood up and greeted them, just as we would have any customers as they left and in a narrow hallway I stood, saying thank you and making eye contact with everyone in that whole entourage except him, whom I refused to look at or speak to.

This was before I really got into his music, though, so it does look very different to me in hindsight. Although maybe he did have a big head then? Who am I to say?

Anyway, first of all "Crash" the song is a fucking tradgedy. The riff is divine, the tune is divine, it could have been the best thing they ever did but he fucking ruins it with those lyrics. And it's because it's like he's too lazy to try some interesting poetry to describe sex and love, he has to have it literal and stupid. And I think I said before it just ends up sounding like an invitation to groupies, how egotistical. Just so idiotic and stupid. But the song itself, like I said, the tune is fucking gorgeous from beginning to end. As for the rest of the album "So Much To Say" isn't quite as good as it promises to be, "Two Step" is not too bad, but nothing to write home about, and "Too Much"/"#41"/"Say Goodbye" is really not worth mentioning, most of it goes in one ear and out the other. "Drive In Drive Out" is also rather repulsive, but then comes "Let You Down" something delightful happens and the album suddenly takes a turn for the better. "Lie In Our Graves" is delicious English/Celtic folky stuff to my ears. "Cry Freedom" is staggering and single-handedly justifies the entire album. "Tripping Billies" has been sanitized and overproduced here, losing all the vitality of the live version on the first album. And it all ends suitably beautifully, with a very nice mellow track called "Proudest Monkey".

Never again would I find their music interesting.

― Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 September 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

Your favourite thread is the 1st you see when loading nu-ilm!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

*applause*

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

Thankyouvermuch

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe how quickly this thread loaded. Don't suppose it will last.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/23/56/images/00105440_lg.jpg http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/7/2047370/images/00339382_lg.jpg

― a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 4 January 2007 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

aw hey there dave matthews thread, i forgot all about you!

― ZR (teenagequiet), Thursday, 4 January 2007 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

How can anyone forget about it!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

copious drug use?

― ZR (teenagequiet), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

this thread and PS's Bare Naked Ladies picture thread are reasons for living.

― VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

hands-down my favorite thread ever.

― ersatz (ersatz), Friday, 5 January 2007 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

This thread was once much longer.

― abanana, Sunday, 25 February 2007 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I do like the fact it can readily load, though.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2007 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

If you're not with the thread you love, love the thread you're with?

― Mordechai Shinefield, Sunday, 25 February 2007 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

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― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 25 February 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, OK. It's hard to see.

― abanana, Sunday, 25 February 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

If you're not with the thread you love, love the thread you're with?

Hahahahahha

― Bimble, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, OK. It's hard to see.

I know. Please write your Senator, like the rest of us.

― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

― ksandbox, Monday, 26 February 2007 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

grassroots success propelled by an open taping policy and word of mouth. exceptional musicians, love to play together and are good to their fans. all band members paid equally, contributes millions to schools, charities, and causes like Vote for Change. Dave is odd and funny and gracious and his insight to the world has been very comforting to me through various life crisis over the years and things like the Bush administration. He makes millions but still drives a 96 Subaru, and helps strangers move couches, and always has time to chat it up and take pictures with a fan.

none of this means you have to like Dave or their music. haters have always been there, especially among the vinyl-collecting (I think it's a rule). it's ok. I just listen because it makes me feel good, and that's all it comes down to.

missed this thread!

― Ms. Chievous Grin, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

can you see if Dave can lend a hand moving my vinyl collection?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/05/16/122736.php

"And, despite the brilliance of recent gigs, I've never really walked out of one and needed to see the performer again immediately."

wait until he brings the Band...

― Ms. Chievous Grin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

It took all of two seconds to load this thread from new.

DAMN!!

― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

This thread can serve as the lithium test of all nu-ILXes in teh future.

― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

Try "Glasgow" more!

― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

That took 2 seconds as well!

Respec!

― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO HE PLAYS A MORAN ON TV SOMETIMES

― gbx, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed it!

"but my leg's not a piano..."

― Ms. Chievous Grin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

Reasons why they are so HAD and BAITED...

― Bimble, Friday, 9 March 2007 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

One of the best House episodes I've seen in a long time. Is Dave Matthews trying to be an actor now, or was it just some one-off thing? Not that I particularly care.

― musically, Friday, 9 March 2007 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

I loved that House episode. The triple-twist ending alone was worth it. Also - we made jokes about whether Dave Matthews was playing himself all evening. Cheap joke? Maybe, but I laughed.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 9 March 2007 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

"we made jokes about whether Dave Matthews was playing himself "

It wasn't far off actually. He routinely acts like a fool when he is nervous, randomly yelps between songs or blurts out gibberish, and tells odd but funny stories about goat penises and a variety of other topics. My daughter and I were laughing during his scenes on House because he was so....Dave.

Davespeak archive:
http://www.weeklydavespeak.com/wdextra/

― Ms. Chievous Grin, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is not the same with all the messages skipped

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is not the same with all the messages skipped

Same for me...now it doesn't crash my browser when I try to read it.

― musically, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

but now g00glers won't see anything to get all indignant about

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

He routinely acts like a fool when he is nervous, randomly yelps between songs or blurts out gibberish, and tells odd but funny stories about goat penises and a variety of other topics.

Yeah, but what about the dudes he has combing the audience for attractive women to give backstage passes to? Because a friend of a friend totally got offered a chance to "hang out with Dave." Goat penis might be a clever metaphor.

I also enjoy fans referring to "seeing Dave" or just say "Dave" all the time and think that I'm supposed to understand what they're referring to in casual conversation. So you saw Dave Barry talk about his new book? Or went to a taping of Letterman?

This is all sort of academic since I haven't talked to someone who's made such a reference for a couple years, but post-comment skipping, this thread needs some wheels.

― mh, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but what about the dudes he has combing the audience for attractive women to give backstage passes to? Because a friend of a friend totally got offered a chance to "hang out with Dave." Goat penis might be a clever metaphor.

I also enjoy fans referring to "seeing Dave" or just say "Dave" all the time and think that I'm supposed to understand what they're referring to in casual conversation. So you saw Dave Barry talk about his new book? Or went to a taping of Letterman?

There are people who go out into the audience before shows and randomly offer someone seat upgrades to first row or to come participate in the meet & greet and hang out backstage. As far as I know this happens at every show (just never to me yet!)

As for "seeing Dave" - a lot of fans hate it when people say that, unless he is solo. If any member left the band or died, there would be no more DMB, the end. (Don't get any ideas haters!)

― Ms. Chievous Grin, Saturday, 10 March 2007 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever happened to the Dave Matthews Band? The last hit I remember by them was "I Did It" and that was, like, six years ago!

― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 10 March 2007 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

[url=http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=11013]Goat Penis[/url] (surprisingly, sfw)

― Siegbran, Sunday, 11 March 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

A DMB fan took out my addition on the Wikipedia page about DMB:

It went something like this:

Popular Culture:
In the Futurama episode "The Why of Fry", when the Nibblonians are telling Fry that he is very important, Fry incredulously asks "So the feeling I get when I'm drunk is correct?". The Nibblonians reply: "Yes, except that the Dave Matthews Band does not rock".

― I am not afraid of you and you can spank my ass, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's true!

Great Episode...

whoah, did everything just taste purple for a sec?

― Ms. Chievous Grin, Thursday, 15 March 2007 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated

uh, Dave Matthews

― Chaucer Arafat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

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