The Stereolab Albums Poll

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MAQ 4 me

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 11 March 2011 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

for me, dots & loops is where they went from being awesome to being pleasant

mookieproof, Friday, 11 March 2011 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

Mars Audiac Quintet was the first Lab album I've heard, perhaps that's why it's still my favourite.

zeus, Friday, 11 March 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

x-post Dots and Loops really divides people, doesn't it? I'm right in the middle 'Lab era, owning only Mars, Emperor and Dots; I've never much backtracked (not a fan of Jenny Ondioline tbh) nor gone foward (bits I sampled seemed pretty samey.) So not really qualified to vote...

Hodge Podge Bodge, Peo-PLE! (Dan Peterson), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

Transona Five is one of the best schaffel-beat songs ever. I love MAQ, but I can only really listen to it in chunks..

Davek (davek_00), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

I'm a fan, and I love certain songs, but I don't think I've ever evaluated them as albums. "How do you differentiate one from the other??"--I'm somewhere close to there, but in a good way.

clemenza, Friday, 11 March 2011 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

I can't believe the amount of haters 'dots and loops' has in here. It's one of my favorite records by them because it feels to me like a big step for them. Every album they made before you could pinpoint most of their influences - krautrock, samba, velvet underground, garcia esquivel, 60's am radio, etc... - and I feel that 'dots and loops' marks the moment where all those elements that had shaped up their songs until then stop acting as a crutch* and actually develop as a unique sound.

* Don't really know the actual english word for what I'm trying to say. In spanish 'muleta' or 'crutch' refers to a sort of phrase or action that is constantly repeated by a person, sort of a bad habit. A catchphrase or 'catchaction' so to speak.

Moka, Friday, 11 March 2011 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

"actually develop as a unique sound"

It's a boring sound.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

I also don't have an issue with being able to pinpoint a band's influence.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Esp. when I think all the influences are awesome and doing some interesting with them.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

can I just say that I'm lmao @ the huge variance in opinions itt so far. srsly, ilx, way to keep a good poll interesting!

Space // Funk (Pillbox), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

I voted Dots & Loops, but probably bcz it was the only album of theirs I was able to find for a couple of years. My friends hated it, they called it "French Jamiroquai."

Buff Orpington (Abbbottt), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

"French Jamiroquai"!

grandavis, Friday, 11 March 2011 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

It's a boring sound.

Alex totally OTM about their "influences", sound, etc.

everything I've read about Tim Gane's current method of composing (eg, taking a several seconds-long sample, telling the band to replicate a sound/part within that sample, and then randomly rearranging the resulting parts) perfectly explains why their later stuff sounds tuneless, shapeless, and unappealing to me. It's like the quintessential empty gesture/excercise.

Master of Projection (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 March 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Actually like that record a lot, though not as much as Refried, ETK, TRN..., MAQ, etc. Sheesh, what choices. Also, LOVE Aluminum Tunes, esp. "Klang Tone".

grandavis, Friday, 11 March 2011 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

It was an easy choice for me: Transient Random Noise Bursts if only for the full version of Jenny Ondioline, which I first heard while driving around and it tranfixed me so much I actually had to pull the car over and just listen.

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 11 March 2011 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

"French Jamiroquai"!

b-but Transporté Sans Bouger was on a different album!

(ho ho etc)

(you don't understand, Travelling Without Moving is the name of my dog)

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 11 March 2011 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

tee hee hee

Buff Orpington (Abbbottt), Friday, 11 March 2011 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

I was there at the start with the singles 20 years ago and they've never really "lost" me the way they did others, though I do understand the criticisms of the post-McIntire sound. The absence of the Charles Long collaboration (Music For The Amorphous Body Study Center)*, which I love to bits, pushes me towards Sound-Dust as their pinnacle. Yeah, sentimental to a certain extent (Mary's swansong), but it's just gorgeous. Refried and Transient would round out the medal places.

(* - OK, it was included in full on Aluminum Tunes but that's not uniformly great...as wonderful as that triple vinyl smells...still)

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 March 2011 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

Switched on vol 2 (kinda) easily

just sayin, Friday, 11 March 2011 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

It is The Groop Played CD or Refried Switched On Volume 2. They're both pretty much perfect but I'm gonna go for the former because it was the first Stereolab I ever heard and I'm not sure anyone else will vote for it. "We're Not Adult Orientated" FTW!

kraudive, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:22 (fifteen years ago)

like all such polls, i wonder how closely it corresponds to 'album i heard first' (my vote for tr-nbwa does)

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:25 (fifteen years ago)

my list is almost exactly the order i heard them.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:29 (fifteen years ago)

I heard the singles on Switched On before I heard anything else, but otherwise the order is pretty random. It took me a while to hear MAQ for some reason.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

I still have the swirly pink Big Money single of "Light That Will Never Cease To Fail" b/w "Au Grand Jour", I think.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:54 (fifteen years ago)

nah a day smothered with corpses = the marxist thing to do peace ketchup

The north-east's Number 2 children's party magician (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:57 (fifteen years ago)

oh god the motorik stuff is going to win this isn't it

Birds (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:33 (fifteen years ago)

etk will win cause it's the casual fan favorite

iatee, Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:33 (fifteen years ago)

whereas I feel like it feels like the greatest hits album of a band that isn't as good as stereolab

iatee, Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:34 (fifteen years ago)

oh god the motorik stuff is going to win this isn't it

guitars rule

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:35 (fifteen years ago)

1997 Dots and Loops
2004 Margerine Eclipse
2008 Chemical Chords
2001 Sound-Dust
2006 Fab Four Suture
1996 Emperor Tomato Ketchup
2000 The First of the Microbe Hunters
1998 Aluminium Tunes
1999 Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Milky Night
2010 Not Music
1994 Mars Audiac Quintet
1995 Refried Ectoplasm (Switched On, Vol. 2)
1993 Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements
1993 The Groop Played "Space Age Batchelor Pad Music"
1992 Switched On Stereolab
1992 Peng!

Birds (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:36 (fifteen years ago)

space age batchelor pad music was the first stereolab i heard. a revelation at the time. still sounds absolutely perfect to me.

Michael B, Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:39 (fifteen years ago)

I feel like they should have saved that name for the dots and loops album

iatee, Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:40 (fifteen years ago)

sound dust for me as well.

nonightsweats, Saturday, 12 March 2011 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

downloaded the demos thing, eaten something, last night. is this official?

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 12 March 2011 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Voted for Emperor Tomato Ketchup, it's my third favourite album of the 90's.

My top five would be:

1.Emperor Tomato Ketchup
2.Dots & Loops
3.Sound Dust
4.Margerine Eclipse
5.Transient Random Noise Bursts

I haven't heard a couple of the mini albums listed here. Fab Four Suture would be my least favourite.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 12 March 2011 16:48 (fifteen years ago)

Still haven't been able to decide between Peng! and Emperor Tomato Ketchup. Not sure the tie will ever be broken.

emil.y, Saturday, 12 March 2011 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

Transient for this guy. I tend to like the earlier stuff better than the post-Dots stuff, which is generally pleasant but not terribly engaging to me. I think the later albums would be more effective if they were reigned in to more concise 45-minute runtimes (and yes, I am aware that my favorite is over an hour long, but it's their most motorik-heavy so it works). The last one I messed with was Sound Dust.

International Waters, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Dots and Loops 4-ever for me.

(I've always been fond of Josh Kortbein's defense of the album.)

Joseph Beuys II Men (jaymc), Monday, 14 March 2011 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

To which I extended the following argument (here -- though I should note that I'm not particularly proud of the essay overall):

Kortbein is right to focus on rhythm as the component that makes Dots and Loops stand out, but he doesn’t extend this idea far enough. I don’t think he is suggesting that the beats on other Stereolab albums are any less prominent; as far as I can see, the difference is that “Jenny Ondioline” and “Metronomic Underground” use rhythm in a linear fashion, whereas Dots and Loops treats it circularly. To clarify, lots of the band’s work, and especially the early stuff, is devoted to a groove, but it’s a straight, immediate, almost mechanical 4/4; you bob your head as it pushes forward, like a car zooming down an empty highway or a train rapidly clicking past each rail. Whereas on Dots and Loops more than half the songs are in some other time signature (variations on 5/4 more common even than variations on 3/4), and even the songs that aren’t tend to hold back from emphasizing any particular beat too strongly, which creates a peculiar decentering effect. The rhythm is urgent and cyclical, but you’re not always sure where the cycle starts; rather than tilting ahead, you let yourself float, as though in a whirlpool.

Joseph Beuys II Men (jaymc), Monday, 14 March 2011 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

Margarine Eclipse has grown to become a real solid bedtime album for me. At this stage I've probably listened to it more than any of the other albums, though (given I'm usually falling asleep) not as closely as my earlier favourites like ETK and Transient.

Tim F, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

xxpost: good reads, never really noticed it but the focus on beats is otm. The rhythm design in Dots and Loops is very specific to the overall sound and has some particularities which no Stereolab record up to that point had done before. It does mark a swift from rock experimentalism into electronica.

Moka, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

jaymc otm, D&L really does some great things with unconventional time signatures. I wish they'd gone further in that direction before buggering off into bossa nova jazz.

I think the later albums would be more effective if they were reigned in to more concise 45-minute runtimes (and yes, I am aware that my favorite is over an hour long, but it's their most motorik-heavy so it works). The last one I messed with was Sound Dust.

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All the albums after Sound-Dust are less than an hour long.

Emperor Tomato Catsuuuuuuuup (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 14 March 2011 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

I'd stick with my ranking of a few years ago except to add the most recent couple to the bottom and flip Peng! and Emperor Tomato Ketchup to put ETK back on top where it belongs.

I love the weird production on Peng!, and the songs are just better than Switched On.

I think the problem with their recent music is these endless, aimless modulations that leave all their songs feeling diffuse. Like I'm looking forward to Tim "discovering" soul or dub reggae or whatever just to start grounding the songs in popular music again.

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 14 March 2011 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

i like the three comps more than any of their albums proper. then it's transient -> etk -> peng -> not music, then the rest, then CPGPVITMN way way down the bottom

rumpie's trusty nuts (electricsound), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

i think cobra & phases is by far my least favourite record by any band i have really loved

rumpie's trusty nuts (electricsound), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

mars probably belongs before peng there

rumpie's trusty nuts (electricsound), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

Aluminium Tunes is pretty good but the second disc is a bit meandering. Oscillons makes a great single album once you cut out all the alternate versions of singles and such. Serene Velocity is pointless if you have all the normal albums.

Not Music is the first slab album in 15 years that I've not been able to extract any joy from at all. It does almost nothing for me and I don't know why.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

Gotta say, after "Transient", "Music For The Amorphous Body Study Center" blew my head off. It felt like they were synthesizing a number of lines of musical thought on that one into a different take on their krautrock mutation. I never felt they bettered it after it came out.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 14 March 2011 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

I still haven't heard Not Music--the only 'lab disc I've not listened to. From what I understand it's all stuff from the Chemical Chords sessions. I went back over the weekend and revisited Chemical Chords and remembered just why I never put it on--I can't stand the way that most of the songs just end, abruptly after 3 minutes or so. I thought I had a preview copy when I heard the mp3s--bought the record and it made just as little sense.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

Related, I just found out Sean wrote a song for Yo Gabba Gabba!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkxIEC_l9r

Pheeel, Sunday, 19 February 2017 22:18 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkxIEC_l9rI

Pheeel, Sunday, 19 February 2017 22:18 (nine years ago)

eight years pass...

I think I've arrived at

1. Dots and Loops
2. Sound-Dust
3. Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Milky Night
4. Margerine Eclipse
5. Instant Holograms on Metal Film

I had a real moment with Cobra and Phases this morning. A very long, labyrinthine record to really get lost in.

Davey D, Sunday, 8 June 2025 21:04 (one year ago)

Not in this order:

Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Milky Night
Dots & Loops
Emperor Tomato Ketchup
Fab Four Suture
Refried Ectoplasm

… but Margerine Eclipse belongs in this conversation

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 June 2025 22:10 (one year ago)

Cobra and Mars are my 1 and 2

I love a few songs on Emperor but have always found it kind of a slog, especially the 2nd half. It’s not the album, it’s me.

brimstead, Sunday, 8 June 2025 22:12 (one year ago)

I hated Cobra for the longest time and then something clicked and now it’s bad ass.

Cow_Art, Monday, 9 June 2025 02:12 (one year ago)

transient remains undeniable

mookieproof, Monday, 9 June 2025 02:20 (one year ago)

Cobra is one of a few ‘Lab albums that seems to work best as a suite of songs, as a whole

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 9 June 2025 20:11 (one year ago)

Dots and Loops just gives me emotions that I rarely access, and that I have to be prepared for. I can’t just listen to this album any old time. I loved it from the day I bought it—midnight release party at Volt Records in Danbury, Ct.

The "W" and Odie Trail (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 9 June 2025 22:11 (one year ago)

Bjork’s Homogenic came out the same day. What a time to be alive.

The "W" and Odie Trail (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 9 June 2025 22:11 (one year ago)

Folks feeling free to say that ETK is not necessarily the bees knees and that Cobra was actually pretty good, or better. Maybe this is why I've persisted with ILM for decades. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 01:33 (one year ago)

Love 'em all, but Cobra has always been my favourite.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 01:35 (one year ago)


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