the rectal prolapse of norman lamont: terrible post-britpop/dadrock ephemera

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Northern Uproar, like most second rate Britpoppers, did make a couple of rather nice anthemic ballads. But then, people who hate Britpop hate anthemic ballads. Bad for them, missing out on such a fantastic kind of musical form that anthemic ballads have always been.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

Those fools!

richard melville hell (crüt), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:02 (fifteen years ago)

i'm missing out on anthemic ballads like i'm missing out on dengue fever

Romford Spring (DG), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:04 (fifteen years ago)

i like anthemic r'n'b or hip hop ballads, tho. i just don't think white ppl have been up to the task of late.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

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sorry

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:06 (fifteen years ago)

so if anthemic ballads are so great, why don't people like them? why do young americans, scots and norwegians prefer rihanna, jay z and my chemical romance to dodgy, cast and jellyfish?

nakhchivan, Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:07 (fifteen years ago)

so if anthemic ballads are so great, why don't people like them? why do young americans, scots and norwegians prefer rihanna, jay z and my chemical romance to dodgy, cast and jellyfish?

The hipsters don't consider singalong quality to be a quality, but that doesn't mean nobody else does. Anthemic ballads by the likes of Coldplay and Travis have actually been very popular, and while they may appeal to a somewhat older generation, the kids have also gotten into anthemic ballads by the likes of Avril Lavigne, Pink, Kelly Clarkson and Taylor Swift.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:40 (fifteen years ago)

The kids weren't into anthemic ballads in the 90s though. And certain people on ILX tend to live in the 90s, not realizing that the pre-90s has long since come back.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

hey geir are crowded house and jellyfish really powerpop when they like have no power in the pop?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:45 (fifteen years ago)

ohhhhh now feel it comin back again
like a trollin' hongro chasing the wind

richard melville hell (crüt), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:45 (fifteen years ago)

shame oasis, the verve etc didn't do anthems, could really have helped their careers, ;_; ashcroft

Romford Spring (DG), Sunday, 27 February 2011 02:15 (fifteen years ago)

really sad to hear about ashcroft

poor dude

nakhchivan, Sunday, 27 February 2011 02:18 (fifteen years ago)

Big Star, along with Cheap Trick, were really the least powerpop of powerpop bands. A lot of power, but not a lot of pop.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro)

September Gurls is probably the ultimate power pop song, it doesn't get much more pop than that.

I honestly don't think you know what you are saying. Why do you have all these rules about what genres bands are? Dodgy were Britpop and nothing else, well apart from being complete shit of course.

Also who are these hipsters you keep referring to and how do you know exactly their views on anthemic ballads? Saying the kids didn't like anthemic ballads in the 90's makes no sense as Oasis did pretty well with their ballads and I definitely remember people singing along to Wonderwall and Don't Look Back In Anger, I know as I was a kid in the 90's and a lot of other kids I knew loved Oasis especially their anthemic ballads.

Oh and this is Northern Uproar's anthemic ballad, it's called Town and it's one of the worst songs ever made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCtYJhh3CXU

Those poor hipsters missing out on gems like this.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 27 February 2011 09:38 (fifteen years ago)

reminds me why i hate ballads

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

"Town" is a great song. Northern Uproar were shit when they did "rock" though. Too noisy and screamy.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 28 February 2011 01:29 (fifteen years ago)

Generally rock bands are at their best when they do not rock. Pop (in its classic McCartneyesque form) is superior to all other genres.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 28 February 2011 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

As for "September Gurls", yes, it is a good song. A good song from an OK album that generally still rocks too much. And the next Big Star album rocked even more, which was even worse. "#1 Album" was a great pop album though, but not even close to the greatness of other great powerpop acts such as Crowded House, Jellyfish and classic McCartney.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 28 February 2011 01:32 (fifteen years ago)

maybe these britpop/landfill bands are unsuccessful and unpopular because they were unattractive? whereas the beatles were famous for their legions of screaming female fans

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 February 2011 01:45 (fifteen years ago)

There was a reason why The Beatles, unlike Herman's Hermits, also had lots of male fans.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 28 February 2011 01:51 (fifteen years ago)

geir those "powerpop" bands you like lack power. theres no power in them at all.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 02:05 (fifteen years ago)

Powerpop isn't mainly about power, it is more about pop, as in traditional pop with a nostalgic twist.

The most important influences on powerpop are the three B's - Beatles, Byrds and Beach Boys - none of which were particularly "powerful". Powerpop is, basically, McCartnesque pop.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 28 February 2011 02:26 (fifteen years ago)

so why call it powerpop when its just pop with no power?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 02:32 (fifteen years ago)

My thinking had always been that powerpop was generated to describe the sound of bands like Big Star...

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Monday, 28 February 2011 02:39 (fifteen years ago)

as a genre term I mean...

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Monday, 28 February 2011 02:39 (fifteen years ago)

The Jam is the first band that comes to my mind when I hear the term.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 28 February 2011 02:45 (fifteen years ago)

nah that's white power pop

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 February 2011 02:46 (fifteen years ago)

I always thought that "power pop" was a term invented by Chas De Whalley at Sounds in late 1977 in order to confer "movement" status upon a bunch of skinny-tied post-punk bands with 1960s-derived pop sensibilities: The Pleasers, New Hearts, Advertising, The Yachts etc. Then the term crossed over to the US in time for The Knack in 1979. But we've done this before...

mike t-diva, Monday, 28 February 2011 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

If not for Geir I sometimes worry I would never have new display names.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Monday, 28 February 2011 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

Band: "Rock bands at their best when they .."
Crowd: "DO NOT ROCK!!!"

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

As for "September Gurls", yes, it is a good song. A good song from an OK album that generally still rocks too much. And the next Big Star album rocked even more, which was even worse.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro)

Yeah you're right Third/Sister Lovers rocks pretty hard, it's basically a metal album. Especially on tracks like Kangaroo, Big Black Car and that hard rock anthem Holocaust. If anything they got less rock with each album. The debut has songs like Don't Lie To Me and In The Street which are surely more rock than anything on the other albums, not that they are actually that rockin' at all. Big Star definitely had elements of all the B bands you listed, especially The Beatles and The Byrds.

Back to Northern Uproar, if you really think Town is a great song and Big Star's second album was just okay then I'm not sure there's any hope for you. Also I love the idea of you finding a song like this too noisy and screamy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS9BodOkvb0

Kitchen Person, Monday, 28 February 2011 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

Why do you have all these rules about what genres bands are? .

Why are you asking this question, this is Geir!?!?!

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 28 February 2011 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

dunno why cast, kula shaker etc are missing from this list :D

Romford Spring (DG), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

Not "post" dad/brit rock?

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

nor were most of this list; they're certainly terrible enough to have earned a place

Romford Spring (DG), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

pfunk's rationale was that they were too big and obviously bad

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 February 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

i think a few on the list might be 'obviously bad'

Romford Spring (DG), Monday, 28 February 2011 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

bad schmad

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 February 2011 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

it's a poor list and i thought we were going to call mulligans on it

ah well

this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Monday, 28 February 2011 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

mulligans?

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 February 2011 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulligan_(games)

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

These kids and their slang, tchoh!

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 28 February 2011 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

if it was ran again i think there might be quite a few cries of "ffs not another britpop poll" and there would be some really pissed off ilxors.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 23:53 (fifteen years ago)

stoked for thursday, cant wait

Romford Spring (DG), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 02:44 (fifteen years ago)

embrace are the worst

Ride, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 05:02 (fifteen years ago)

Voted My Life Story.

for those reasons personal to me, and also because "You don't sparkle" is such self-aggrandising rub, and that "7 (12) reasons why" is, um, alright I guess, but still indicates that I was right in thinking the bloke to be horrendously smug.

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

god they were awful

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bYj2o7y4rk

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Achintya-Bheda-Abheda

सचेत तत् त्वम् असि

Achintya = inconceivable; Bheda = form; Abheda = Formless.

The same thing (God/Life) is inconcievably as well Form as well as Formless at the same time.
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totally love this song! used to busk this one,many moons ago ,great memories
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they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

ha I wondered when Crispin Urquhart Newton Taylor was going to turn up

but cheese and chips excites me (snoball), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

As the frontman of Kula Shaker, Mills received a great deal of media attention – as much for his outspoken nature as his music. After the demise of Kula Shaker, this attention ceased, although he still commands a great deal of notice in Japan.

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Xpost I used to be a big My Life Story fan but even at the time I hated this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71j9CaAk3Ks

This must be one of the smuggest songs ever made. I remember Select giving their album 0/5 saying it was the worst album ever recorded.

As for Kula Shaker, again I was a fan until the album came out. I had a couple of the singles and me and my brother still have a laugh today about one of the B-sides which was called Crispian Reading From The Mahabharata, which is unfortunately not on Youtube. He was doing his reading over an instrumental version of Tattva.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)


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