the rectal prolapse of norman lamont: terrible post-britpop/dadrock ephemera

think it's p much mandatory for italian restaurants to have autographed photos of minor celebs over the wall (ususally from the kerry dixon / mad frankie fraser / her out of are you being served school, so 90s indie chancers are quite avant garde in context)

w/r/t music press plausibility: when one week the editorial line was don't like oasis? r u a nazi? and the next its like oasis? r u a nazi? it wasnt difficult to work out to just ignore the silly cunts

northern uproar website like finding a pacific island full of dinosaurs

the only reward those journos got was to end up writing for failed mags then failed blogs and/or posting here (or sleeping w/lauren laverne, ymmv)

If the Boo Radleys don't count how about Teenage Fanclub?

I like Teenage Fanclub, but they are still a bit too Americana influenced to really score with me. Dodgy were archetypically English in a Beatles/Hollies/Who way while Teenage Fanclub are considerably more Byrds/Big Star.

The critics also loved "Parklife", which is a lot closer to the musical spirit that makes me love Dodgy than Teenage Fanclub ever were. But, again, basically, Dodgy were more powerpop than Britpop, and fans of powerpop still love everything by them. Powerpop, unlike Britpop, has never been "cool" with the hipsters though (OK, maybe it was for a very short while around 1978-79, but it was much more needed in the 90s)

Well I've never come across any of these power pop fans who like everything Dodgy put out (apart from you) but to me they were just everything that was wrong with Britpop, although they are worse bands on the list like Embrace.

The NME had Big Star in their heartbreak list, best albums of all time and albums that students should own, if the NME is what mean by hipsters then I would say they are seen as very cool.

Powerpop, unlike Britpop, has never been "cool" with the hipsters though

fwiw this is rong btw

yeah wtf

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/129/l_c13a0d25feed4626adc737d168954526.jpg

"BUNGALOW BUMS are from Omsk in southern Siberia. They’ve been around since 2006, when they originally cranked out songs under the direct influence of britpop and US rock. With time, however, their interests and influences have moved backwards through the history books. Their listed idols begin with the time-tested threesome of The Stooges, MC5, and the New York Dolls. Somewhere in this post, therefore, the term garage rock is bound to pop up.

http://www.myspace.com/bungalowbums

http://www.last.fm/music/Bungalow+Bums

Should never have allowed Geir a visa into Siberia for his holiday look at the cultural damage he's done.

geirov hongroski

the URL alone of the Northern Uproar site is a joyful burst of anticipatory nostalgia

Northern Uproar Membership Club.
P.O Box 102.
Truro.
TR1 3RF
UK.

everyone write to them asking for signed copies of a cd

http://www.n-uproar.u-net.com/images/review_1.gif

the source code of the website says it was designed by some guy called 'blueski'?

The NME had Big Star in their heartbreak list, best albums of all time and albums that students should own, if the NME is what mean by hipsters then I would say they are seen as very cool.

Big Star, along with Cheap Trick, were really the least powerpop of powerpop bands. A lot of power, but not a lot of pop. But sure, the kind of powerpop fans that prefer Big Star to Beatles or Beach Boys will not be all that much into Dodgy. I am speaking more of the McCartneyesque line of powerpop: Jellyfish, Crowded House etc.

i vaguely remember that northern uproar did a photoshoot for jeans or something?

every sixth form in the country had a dire band that sounded a bit like oasis, NU were just lucky enough to be the ones that got a record deal. the gallagher bros enabled loads of really boring "unpretentious" guys to make music, without being considered weird or moshers or whatever.

Northern Uproar, like most second rate Britpoppers, did make a couple of rather nice anthemic ballads. But then, people who hate Britpop hate anthemic ballads. Bad for them, missing out on such a fantastic kind of musical form that anthemic ballads have always been.

Those fools!

i'm missing out on anthemic ballads like i'm missing out on dengue fever

i like anthemic r'n'b or hip hop ballads, tho. i just don't think white ppl have been up to the task of late.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf2seuctNK1qcjrs8.png

sorry

so if anthemic ballads are so great, why don't people like them? why do young americans, scots and norwegians prefer rihanna, jay z and my chemical romance to dodgy, cast and jellyfish?

so if anthemic ballads are so great, why don't people like them? why do young americans, scots and norwegians prefer rihanna, jay z and my chemical romance to dodgy, cast and jellyfish?

The hipsters don't consider singalong quality to be a quality, but that doesn't mean nobody else does. Anthemic ballads by the likes of Coldplay and Travis have actually been very popular, and while they may appeal to a somewhat older generation, the kids have also gotten into anthemic ballads by the likes of Avril Lavigne, Pink, Kelly Clarkson and Taylor Swift.

The kids weren't into anthemic ballads in the 90s though. And certain people on ILX tend to live in the 90s, not realizing that the pre-90s has long since come back.

hey geir are crowded house and jellyfish really powerpop when they like have no power in the pop?

ohhhhh now feel it comin back again
like a trollin' hongro chasing the wind

shame oasis, the verve etc didn't do anthems, could really have helped their careers, ;_; ashcroft

really sad to hear about ashcroft

poor dude

Big Star, along with Cheap Trick, were really the least powerpop of powerpop bands. A lot of power, but not a lot of pop.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro)

September Gurls is probably the ultimate power pop song, it doesn't get much more pop than that.

I honestly don't think you know what you are saying. Why do you have all these rules about what genres bands are? Dodgy were Britpop and nothing else, well apart from being complete shit of course.

Also who are these hipsters you keep referring to and how do you know exactly their views on anthemic ballads? Saying the kids didn't like anthemic ballads in the 90's makes no sense as Oasis did pretty well with their ballads and I definitely remember people singing along to Wonderwall and Don't Look Back In Anger, I know as I was a kid in the 90's and a lot of other kids I knew loved Oasis especially their anthemic ballads.

Oh and this is Northern Uproar's anthemic ballad, it's called Town and it's one of the worst songs ever made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCtYJhh3CXU

Those poor hipsters missing out on gems like this.

reminds me why i hate ballads

"Town" is a great song. Northern Uproar were shit when they did "rock" though. Too noisy and screamy.

Generally rock bands are at their best when they do not rock. Pop (in its classic McCartneyesque form) is superior to all other genres.

As for "September Gurls", yes, it is a good song. A good song from an OK album that generally still rocks too much. And the next Big Star album rocked even more, which was even worse. "#1 Album" was a great pop album though, but not even close to the greatness of other great powerpop acts such as Crowded House, Jellyfish and classic McCartney.

maybe these britpop/landfill bands are unsuccessful and unpopular because they were unattractive? whereas the beatles were famous for their legions of screaming female fans

There was a reason why The Beatles, unlike Herman's Hermits, also had lots of male fans.

geir those "powerpop" bands you like lack power. theres no power in them at all.

Powerpop isn't mainly about power, it is more about pop, as in traditional pop with a nostalgic twist.

The most important influences on powerpop are the three B's - Beatles, Byrds and Beach Boys - none of which were particularly "powerful". Powerpop is, basically, McCartnesque pop.

so why call it powerpop when its just pop with no power?

My thinking had always been that powerpop was generated to describe the sound of bands like Big Star...

as a genre term I mean...

The Jam is the first band that comes to my mind when I hear the term.

nah that's white power pop

I always thought that "power pop" was a term invented by Chas De Whalley at Sounds in late 1977 in order to confer "movement" status upon a bunch of skinny-tied post-punk bands with 1960s-derived pop sensibilities: The Pleasers, New Hearts, Advertising, The Yachts etc. Then the term crossed over to the US in time for The Knack in 1979. But we've done this before...

If not for Geir I sometimes worry I would never have new display names.

Band: "Rock bands at their best when they .."
Crowd: "DO NOT ROCK!!!"

As for "September Gurls", yes, it is a good song. A good song from an OK album that generally still rocks too much. And the next Big Star album rocked even more, which was even worse.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro)

Yeah you're right Third/Sister Lovers rocks pretty hard, it's basically a metal album. Especially on tracks like Kangaroo, Big Black Car and that hard rock anthem Holocaust. If anything they got less rock with each album. The debut has songs like Don't Lie To Me and In The Street which are surely more rock than anything on the other albums, not that they are actually that rockin' at all. Big Star definitely had elements of all the B bands you listed, especially The Beatles and The Byrds.

Back to Northern Uproar, if you really think Town is a great song and Big Star's second album was just okay then I'm not sure there's any hope for you. Also I love the idea of you finding a song like this too noisy and screamy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS9BodOkvb0

Why do you have all these rules about what genres bands are? .

Why are you asking this question, this is Geir!?!?!

dunno why cast, kula shaker etc are missing from this list :D

Not "post" dad/brit rock?