did you explain to her that he doesn't really rape chicks
― in odd we trust (cozen), Friday, 25 February 2011 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
your dad is female?
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 February 2011 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
he doesn't really rape chicks?
― bang-proof-bling-mans (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:02 (fifteen years ago)
Having only heard Yonkers, it seems like he has a really similar flow to Aesop Rock in a couple of different ways.I'm sure it's covered extensively in the 2000 posts here, but the "faggot"s are kind of a dealbreaker for me - I dug the song a lot otherwise.
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 25 February 2011 19:02 (fifteen years ago)
yup, sounds like aesop rock but misogynistic/homophobic/violent/etc., totally otm. i'll pull out my old copies of Labor Days, Float and Bazooka Tooth and be perfectly content w/ that, thank u
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
yonkers vid is great btw admittedly
he doesn't sound like aes rock to me at all. more locked into the beat, less sardonic. i think he compares better to 90s nyc underground dudes. i'm struggling to think of exactly who though
― ciderpress, Friday, 25 February 2011 19:26 (fifteen years ago)
He's pretty sardonic. Except for when he isn't.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
the only thing from yonkers that i could imagine in an aesop rock song is the stevie wonder couplet
― ciderpress, Friday, 25 February 2011 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
He sounds like Rock from Heltah Skeltah
― mikethegrouch, Friday, 25 February 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)
Oh and these guys are great.
stoked for these guys but rape jokes keep me from going back to listen more than once
hope they can stay rad but grow up a little too
― gr8080, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:43 (fifteen years ago)
Were ILM people this squicky about Eminem's rape and murder songs back in 2001-2003? Or is it okay to hear that from a cartoonish white guy but not from black teenagers?
Sort of being snarky here, but I have several irl friends that are all dismissive and refusing to listen to Golf Wang, specifically citing the misogyny and violence; but these dudes never batted an eyebrow at the same stuf from Marshall Mathers. I hate to bring in race here, but, man, its kind of hard not to think about it.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:49 (fifteen years ago)
Also the same folks complaining about Odd Future don't have much of a problem (if any at all) with, say, Cannibal Corpse. If Odd Future went so far as to actually call a song "Stripped, Raped and Strangled" or "Fucked With a Knife" we'd be reading Voice editorials all goddamn year, but somehow when married, middle-aged white men do it (and have been doing it for ~20 years) it's ignorable, even though I think it's a fair assumption that skateboarding teenagers listen to Odd Future and Cannibal Corpse.
Note: I don't have a problem with either group. Or rape jokes, as we all know.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
Her dad admonished her: "They talk about some crazy shit and as a female, you're slapping a lot of women in the face."
I'm like, "That's what I do. I slap bitches."
lololololol
― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
Were ILM people this squicky about Eminem's rape and murder songs back in 2001-2003?
ILM back then did some serious pants-wetting over how awesome Eminem was back then
I always hated him, barring a couple singles
― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
I found eminem really repellent back in the day too
― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
my problem with eminem was that he wanted to be taken seriously.
― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
like he was really emo in a way that Odd Future are not imho
yeah, eminem was always putting off this I don't give a fuck vibe
but he gave a fuck
I could tell
― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)
there was a whole subtext to Eminem that you were supposed to care about his trials with his mom, his wife, his kid, that he had FEELINGS and he was MESSED UP and O THA TRAGEDY btw here's some rape jokes and fags are lame
the juxtaposition was actively irritating to me
― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:14 (fifteen years ago)
Well, wasn't really trying to swing this into a discussion about Eminem's relative merits, I was just wondering if there were many people on ILM straight up dismissing him because of the misogyny and violence.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:19 (fifteen years ago)
mostly people complained about his whiny voice
― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:27 (fifteen years ago)
i think tyler is v v emo!!!
― gr8080, Friday, 25 February 2011 22:38 (fifteen years ago)
cannibal corpse got a lot of controversy back when they came out, tons of death metal stuff did!
so did eminem, everyone was handwringing about him!
jon/via i think you are kinda monday morning quarterbacking here.
also, i reject the idea that it's somehow wrong to have a prob with some of the stuff that oddfuture says.
― he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 February 2011 23:28 (fifteen years ago)
Tyler is pretty emo imo (amo omo umo)
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 26 February 2011 00:31 (fifteen years ago)
sw8 tyler .gif on last.fm
http://www.last.fm/music/Tyler,+The+Creator
― sleepingbag, Saturday, 26 February 2011 00:52 (fifteen years ago)
cannibal corpse got a lot of controversy back when they came out, tons of death metal stuff did! so did eminem, everyone was handwringing about him!
And now everyone's bored with the subject? Or used to it? So we should wait out whichever critics have decided once again to get shocked and horrified by lyrical content, even though artists they're no longer paying attention to have been saying all this exact same shit for decades?
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:52 (fifteen years ago)
I made this point in re: geto boys about 10000 posts ago
― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Saturday, 26 February 2011 02:05 (fifteen years ago)
but media critics in caring about what's hot shockah
― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Saturday, 26 February 2011 02:06 (fifteen years ago)
This stuff remind me of both Wu-Tang and early 2000's Anti-Con stuff.
― matt2, Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:09 (fifteen years ago)
this shit was probably already posted 1000 posts ago but i fuckkin love ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoIYwcmIuU
― gr8080, Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:20 (fifteen years ago)
JBWGKTA
http://yfrog.com/h0uhmvjj
― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:37 (fifteen years ago)
NO WAYYYYY
― gr8080, Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:40 (fifteen years ago)
I was just coming to post that.
― Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:46 (fifteen years ago)
A month earlier and Bieber's remix album could have had a Tyler feature.
was it tyler or hodgy who rapped about killing bieber?
― gr8080, Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:48 (fifteen years ago)
Tyler has a mad boycrush on Bieber. But it also might have been Tyler who dropped the Bieber line.
― Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:51 (fifteen years ago)
something about cutting his balls off
― gr8080, Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:54 (fifteen years ago)
that picture makes me so fucking happy
― billstevejim, Saturday, 26 February 2011 04:14 (fifteen years ago)
fucktyler Tyler, The CreatorI Fucking Win Today. @iamdiddy Thanks For The Chain Nigga. AAAAHHHHH!!!!!
― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 February 2011 04:17 (fifteen years ago)
need to be quite careful posting on a thread where people have hard knowledge and fully worked opinions based on that, because i don't, but hell, I'm drinking.
I really really like the stuff I've heard. I don't get people saying the stuff's just goofing around trying to offend - it seems full of depression, obsessed in more than one song about suicide. the rape/faggot stuff is repulsive but feels like a heavy portrayal of a dark psyche - the more absurdly nasty it is in some ways the better because it's less realistic. feels ballardian in some ways.
so the whole suicide/depression schtick feels like the pay-off. there's nothing rewarding in the pose- it's nasty and will kill you.
The cumbersome, peristaltic flow really contributes to that - like people struggling to spurt the words out.
think it's great.
― Ron Rom (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:40 (fifteen years ago)
i didn't think i liked this too much but i can't stop playing that tyler track w/ the roach video
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
OMFG THAT PICTURE
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:54 (fifteen years ago)
And Diddy bought him a chain? Does he just do that with everyone? That totes explains how hip-hop can still be 'bling' in an age where no-one sells any records - Biggie is paying for it.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:56 (fifteen years ago)
fucktyler Tyler, The CreatorTHE FUCKING BIEBZ!!!!!!!!!!
fucktyler Tyler, The CreatorHe Can;t Even Tweet Me Because Of Name ( fuck tyler) But Fuck It.
― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Friday, February 25, 2011 10:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
ilu for this fyi
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:12 (fifteen years ago)
if we didn't like every musician who gives a fuck, we wouldnt have much music left to like, though, would we?
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
let's not like musicians who give a fuck that is exactly what I am saying
― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:10 (fifteen years ago)
Hmm... So JHawk and Left Brain are cousins. Puts the jerk-hate in perspective or whatever. Or not.
― Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:20 (fifteen years ago)