^^
lex had first mention today
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:18 (fifteen years ago)
it's been a common thing that i noticed, that's why i mentioned it
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 February 2011 13:19 (fifteen years ago)
let's hope some of these people saying terrible slanderous things about les mumfords deign to explain themselves on ilx
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:21 (fifteen years ago)
Need Marcello's infallible Toryscope... perhaps not
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:22 (fifteen years ago)
Fwiw, I would never have thought of this band as "Tories"
uh it's not like i'm defending the mumfords or even know that much about them, was just wondering what exactly was going on here, but feel free to passantino the thread with disingenuous shit
xp
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 February 2011 13:24 (fifteen years ago)
Whereas came as no surprise that Scouting For Girls guy was a "But we must do something to tackle the deficit" style Lib Dem (xp)
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:26 (fifteen years ago)
toryism seems kinda wrong anyway, i imagine them sublimating any sense of politics into a 'it's not about left and right' evasive ruritanian stupidity, a sugary mix of wishful thinking and apolitical amnesia about the risible doughty peasant tropes they trade in
cf their ostensibly non-denominational but evidently christianist rhetoric about 'faith'
guessing they are lib dems
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:29 (fifteen years ago)
I think the point is that it's apposite to have a Biggest Band In Britain who are massive musical reactionaries at the point at which we have particularly hateful Tory government again.
Most recent Biggest Bands In Britain wouldn't scare most Tories I'd imagine, but the Mumfords' image and sound plays into it as well.
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 February 2011 13:30 (fifteen years ago)
Or the Mumfords have tapped into the British record buying public's inherent musical conservatism in a particularly irritating way - see also positioning themselves against anything "manufactured" (for which, read modern).
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 February 2011 13:31 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.vangoghgallery.com/catalog/image/0067/Parsonage-Garden-at-Nuenen-in-the-Snow,-The.jpg
fuck a modernity, let's get the serfs to start an organic turnip processing co-op and sell it to ocado
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:35 (fifteen years ago)
nb i'd basically agree w/ lex that tory slurs shd be avoided if the recipients aren't soi disant tories -- explain from first principles (in this case aesthetic bankruptcy) when possible
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:44 (fifteen years ago)
The decider for these types of things should always be the would-they-play-Zac-Goldsmiths-next-barndance? test imo.
― ka£ka (NickB), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:50 (fifteen years ago)
hi-cult forms of heart-of-oak back-to-the-land stuff also on the rise? Feel like I'm hearing a lot more about John Piper over the last year or two, and that Alexandra Harris book, Romantic Moderns (nb not about romo) getting a lot of reviews. Bloomsbury pastoral.
― portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:12 (fifteen years ago)
Big Society?
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:14 (fifteen years ago)
Let's all get together with our washboards and ukeleles and Tyrloean hats and try to put the Great (or at least) the Nice back into Great Britain
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:16 (fifteen years ago)
but this, really, about M&S. Want to try and figure out that quoted-upthread Mumford enthusiasm for Chesterton when I'm not in an office.
― portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:16 (fifteen years ago)
You can't spell 'Tyrolean' without Tory *taps nose*
― I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:23 (fifteen years ago)
Look forward to their setting of GKC's The Secret People. xpost
― Stevie T, Friday, 25 February 2011 14:23 (fifteen years ago)
Tyro Lean and the Jing Jang Jong
― ka£ka (NickB), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:25 (fifteen years ago)
There's already a tribute band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3oWh5G9ysk
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 February 2011 14:28 (fifteen years ago)
oh for fuck's sake
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
jesus t'night, look at the "Brooker" cut on the lead singer.
― Bill A, Friday, 25 February 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
holy cow this band is getting popular on the bar jukeboxes...let me just say, mark e. smith was right
― frogbs, Friday, 25 February 2011 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
― ka£ka (NickB), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:25 (1 hour ago)
a+
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:15 (fifteen years ago)
could save a lot of hand-wringing and just napalm the cunts
― Romford Spring (DG), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:25 (fifteen years ago)
Tribute bands already? I've never understood the Brit tendency to crank out tribute bands while the artists they emulate are still at the peak of their powers. The U.S. tribute bands usually focus on bands or classic lineups you can't see live anywhere (aside from shitty jamband tributes).
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:29 (fifteen years ago)
It's because British provincial nightclub bookers are fucking lazy and risk averse.
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 February 2011 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
Makes sense I suppose. Do bands like this do well?
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
that's because u specialise in industrial level production of pro forma shite, whereas england is able to produce perfectly formed, unique snowflake of finest fibrous alsatian faeces like les mumfs
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
+ audiences like a night out where 'you know what you are getting'. (+ i guess beaten musicians like some money + attention, even in this odd vicarious form? Can't really blame them. )
― portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah there's a whole industry in this country devoted to catering specifically for people who can't be bothered to take a risk on a night out.
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 February 2011 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
the same pressure must exist in america tho? and it would make sense for tribute bands in a larger country with plenty of places seldom visited by the big bands
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
Not really, because here in the States there seems to be a pretty strict dividing line between "clubs that focus on live acts" and "clubs that just employ djs". The former usually want to focus on names that they know will draw people in while the latter would rather just pay a dj less. There are tribute bands that break these barriers, but they tend to be pretty popular and based on specific era - early Beatles, first four albums era Metallica, etc etc.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:01 (fifteen years ago)
Guesses - size makes it less economically viable maybe? Sons of Bumford can do several pub + clubs Thursday-Sunday, Exeter-Winchester, be back at their desks (guitar teachers? I just don't know) Monday morning.
Are there adaptable local bar bands in the US? Would they add Little Lion Man to their set?
― portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:05 (fifteen years ago)
Actually, wait, NZ worships the Fall, yeah? Mumford go down there, they'll be arrested at the airport, charged with being crap and dunked in the ocean.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, February 25, 2011 7:52 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
probably my favorite post in this thread...
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:07 (fifteen years ago)
Most bar bands I'm aware of stick to classic stuff and are really slow to adapt current hits, I think "Little Lion Man" would have to blow up even more first.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:07 (fifteen years ago)
NZ worships the Fall?
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
yes, especially in Auckland (I should ask LJ about this...)
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:11 (fifteen years ago)
The only time they hit Top 10 was in NZ, with "Lie Dream of Casino Soul." The following tour there yielded one of the finest live albums in the prime Fall era, In a Hole released by Flying Nun.
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:12 (fifteen years ago)
(lot more to this story, involving lawsuits and Marc Riley, but I'll let it go for now.)
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:13 (fifteen years ago)
when I think of folk I mostly think of protest music or bearded CAMRA lefties
Maybe you have to be be English and a certain age or whatever but this seems ridiculously specific. "When I think of rock I mostly think of jet black quiffs or playing piano standing up". "When I think of rap I think of Afrocentrism or 808s".
Think it's barking up the wrong tree with M&S tho. They're basically aiming for Arcade Fire, but more contrived.
― Féile Kuti (ecuador_with_a_c), Friday, 25 February 2011 18:30 (fifteen years ago)
this album methinks will be No Fences for the '10s. nice to lol at the UK for once; get the magnifying glass on all the abominable bands from there in the last Idk how many years...
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:27 (fifteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/OKvFd.jpg
― tombôt de couperin (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
lol
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
this album methinks will be No Fences for the '10s.
I will listen to No Fences 2.7 billion times before willingly listening to an entire album of Mumford.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
I am from NZ and I worship The Fall so it must be true.
― Hinklepicker, Friday, 25 February 2011 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
some days I think that 1981-82 New Zealand pop charts was the final true sanctuary for great pop music
this was #1 for like 5 weeks in 1982:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMHY3GEhdsc
in one way it's kind of like the Jamaican version of that Lady Antebellum song; in another sense, the longest Jamaican hit single to top the UK charts up to that point was "Double Barrel" for two weeks...
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:58 (fifteen years ago)
(Musical Youth would hit #1 for 3 weeks before the year was out...anything not to talk about Scumford and Nones huh?)
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)
(sorry)
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:05 (fifteen years ago)