― N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)
and even if it was, the scene in their case is rather big.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)
that's what you said: it does seem to champion the local and the folky against the virtuoso auteurs -- which is fair play, but it needs explaining how the products of scenes translate.
― N_Rq, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm not sure how this came to be such a specific Kompakt VS DFA thing, though I'm sure it's my fault.
I am not saying, by default, that labels which are more prolific are better. But since the criticism of the Mayer record seemed to suggest it was just tacked together and rush released, I offer a counter argument, not for the sake of contrarianism, but because I genuinely believe that a more sweatshop style environment produces better music and better art.
There's only so many puffed up pieces you can read about the DFA before actually having to consider how many records they've actually released in the 3 years they've been in the public domain.
Very few. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd say it's not a quality over quantity issue either, there's just been very little to follow the initial excitement whatsoever.
I think this issue reared its head on some other thread when someone freaked out and said I liked Ghostly International.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
It strikes me as a reasonable amount to be honest, taking into account blatant 'perfectionist' stance of Murphy's. But I don't like labels and artists that are too prolific right now just because I am not really keeping track of any of it at all.
― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)
In my opinion it is, anyway, I think I'm probably polar opposite to JM in this respect though. I know nothing about rock history.
x-post, as I said N_RQ, I don't think one model is by default better than the other, but in this case stagnation only fits one party in my opinion. As for monopoly, I don't know, very complex to discuss really, probably a case for either.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)
LCD spending three years on an LP, and then boosting a past-their-prime dahnce supergroop on the lead single is part of the package -- as he says, the fact that they've gone downhill is the whole point. kinda.
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm going to completely screw up this description and make both 'dance' music and Murphy sound bad, but I do like both. Anyway... James Murphy doesn't actually like dance music. He likes music you can dance to, but when it comes down to it at the end of the day, it all sounds like repetitive lazy shit where it's just a little effect here or there and some sort of cheesy hook, or even worse, cheesy ambience. If you're a guitar tech, fiddling with equipment guy, you're going to be all about the "disco edits" where you take that effect, chop it down, make the music ramp up to that point, and then reverse the effect. You can't just sit there and say "yeah, this beat is great" and dance around. Remember the late 1990s when there was some supposed "rock/electronica" crossover period and all the rock kids were going to love Daft Punk and shit, because it wasn't that "boom boom boom" boring "techno" stuff? Lots twitchier.
It's interesting that the idea of re-appropriation is mention, and it's such a stumbling point for JM. He's doing (in my opinion) a pretty good job of combining a lot of influences, not so subtly. But he doesn't even vaguely connect that to the obvious beat-jacking that went on when Goldsworthy was at Mo'Wax. It's always been amazing to me that the influences are so similar (and probably why Goldsworthy and Murphy get along so well) but there's this weird dismissal. I have no idea how much influence Goldsworthy had outside of the records he either worked on or helped get released (Liquid Liquid!) but the influences are similar to DFA's.
― wayoffbase (mike h.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)
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― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
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― vanessa novaeris (novaeris), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)
hadn't heard anything about this so was quite surprised to see it on the racks and even more surprised to see that it was going for the princely figure of £3 (for 50 minutes of music).
granted the tracklisting does, at first glance, look a little unadventurous (lots of mixes from a specific artist grouped together) but it works unbelievably well . hearing the great (new?) cute/psychedelic delia and gavin track "5" mixed into tiga's mix of "tribulations" has got to be a musical moment of the year. after 2 plays i prefer this to any other dfa mix so far. put it this way it just made cleaning my oven and fridge out a hell of a lot more fun.
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)
― van igloo (van smack), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)
― the lack of rhythm machine (haitch), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)
This should be printed on a label and stuck on the packaging.
― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)
― älänbänänä (alanbanana), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)
― älänbänänä (alanbanana), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 9 January 2006 04:13 (twenty years ago)
― pompe vers le haut du volume (haitch), Monday, 9 January 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)
― biz, Monday, 9 January 2006 07:20 (twenty years ago)
you've got it wrong - that BX remix is the jam!-- rajeev (rajeev...), May 6th, 2005.
Right now listening to The DFA Remixes Chapter One and you're right. I got it wrong. Too bad the NIN remix coudn't make this compilation though.
― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:47 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:50 (twenty years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:38 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:56 (twenty years ago)
― wu-tang clan analogue (haitch), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 12:15 (twenty years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 13:41 (twenty years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)
here are some more electronic battle weapons due later this year:
The DFA - Remixes Chapter Two
01. Far From Home - Tiga02. Shake Your Coconuts - Junior Senior03. She Wants To Move - N.E.R.D.04. Colours - Hot Chip05. Hand That Feeds - Nine Inch Nails06. Slide In - Goldfrapp07. Destination Overdrive - Chromeo08. In A State - UNKLE
― GALKIN (GALKIN), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― lf (lfam), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)
no seriously tho I think I would like the mixes better with vocals or twisted remnants of the originals.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:22 (twenty years ago)
― GALKIN (GALKIN), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)