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God, "Saturdays" is fantastic. They're playing in Sydney w/ the Avalanches and others in early November. I'm really looking forward to it.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan is still one of my heroes. I'd love to hear any of the pre-'Numbers' releases, like '1981' (I do have 'Hunder Twasser' of course).

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

what was there before ...Numbers apart from 1981? (and what is this Hunder Twasser of course?)

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

'Hunder Twasser' (believe the name relates to a historical figure Dan likes) was from 1999 and is a vaguely trippy hip hop-type thing with nice drums. Rex Records licensed it for their '4 More Fish Out Of Water' EP 10" (4 new/foreign/obscure acts, 4 songs) and then they released '...Numbers' as 2 10" singles, rest is history etc.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

why is there a wolfmother ep appearing on this thread? kit have you heard it?!

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, damn Rex and their exclusive foreign-style tracks (actually all the recent singles probably have remixes on OS versions that we don't get, so fuckit). 1981 basically sounds like the Numbers tracks with lots less going on. I've bothered to go 1200->laptop->CD if anyone's desperate enough to organise postal tradey-type scenarios.

that Wolfmother EP is joining with the other images to illustrate "what else [Modular] do, & [that it's] all as gorgeously aussie post-avalanches pop as these two releases"! I haven't heard the whole thing, but I've got the Woman promo, and it confirmed what I thought when I saw them play a few months back: this is much more fun than it ought to be but oh my goodness I can't imagine it translating to record and convincing radio-listening kids across the globe.

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I may take you up on that one day, kit. That '1981' description makes it sound a lot like the Noonday Underground remix. I did once see ...Neon Love's 'The Twilight (1981)' as an mp3 title - is 'The Twilight' a remake of sorts?

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i know of a couple of other remixes too - one for this sydney group lino (who seem to have disappeared?) and a new one for vhs or beta. haven't heard either...

Mil (Mil), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post:) I dunno, in a brave stand against rockism, I've only listened to the album a couple of times.

Lino have disappeared, yes - one of them died, and Andrew Lancaster is in the Polaroids now.

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The album is wonderful, but I can't find the 'I Thought of Numbers' EP(?) on CD...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I've read that "The Twilight" is a remake of "1981", yes.

Haaaaaitch (haitch), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe i'd need to see wolfmother live to get the fun side of it. i can see what they're trying to do, but i can't help feeling like the EP is an injoke that i'm not party to..

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer, mailorder/p2p. Be aware that the AUS and UK editions have different tracklists (and that the UK CD version is actually a promo CDR). Exclusive to AUS: 'Drop The Bomb' (Avalanchey downtempo disco craziness) and 'Endlessly' (accapella of 'Standing Up, Sitting Down' with an expanding synth line), while the UK got 'I Was Young And Needed The Money' (nostalgic drum machine soul with backwards guitar and the bassline from the original 'Compared To What') and possibly 'Nine Summertime', as although I don't remember seeing it on the import copies in HMV, minna mentioned it above.

I'd love to hear that Lino remix, any good? The VHS or Beta one might be easier to seek or acquire, seeing as it's new.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 28 October 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

" maybe i'd need to see wolfmother live to get the fun side of it. i can see what they're trying to do, but i can't help feeling like the EP is an injoke that i'm not party to.. "


saw 'em live a few weeks back @ ding dong in Mel. Good, but I couldn't believe they weren't in catsuits a la the Darkness, I couldn't take them seriously. Some people were taking them very, very seriously.

jayque, Friday, 29 October 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I just found a promo copy of Bright Like Neon Love for $3.99! On track 2, and it's pretty awesome so far.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
I...see

adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post:) I dunno, in a brave stand against rockism, I've only listened to the album a couple of times.

I love this.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I've really been digging this album lately.

Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I just told my friend to download "Saturdays" "Just a Dream" and "Glittering Clouds" because "they're kinda like Phoenix, but more French" haha.

Barima thanks for the info on the Numbers ep.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

cut copy shit all over phoenix.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Phoenix at their peak ("Too Young", "Everything is Everything") Vs. Cut Copy at their peak ("Saturdays" or "Future") I'd go Phoenix, but for a whole consistent album, CC all the way...

OCP (OCP), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the cut copy record has been criminally slept on i think. in australia it's got a bit of press, and it was released in the states, but i still get the feeling it hasnt really got the props it deserves......

glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm sure of it. it's a really strong album..

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm suprised that it isn't huge.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan's labels have never really gone for the promotional sledgehammer, have they? There's no good reason whatsoever why it doesn't have a UK release.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

the cut copy record has been criminally slept on i think. in australia it's got a bit of press, and it was released

very, very little from what I can see.

OCP (OCP), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

cut copy shit all over phoenix.

I find this statement really funny because it's hard to imagine such an extreme TS opinion between these two rather similarly pleasantly poppy groups!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

other than 'too young' i've only heard the second phoenix album, which i found dreary as all get-out

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I think its probably a little too 'European sounding' to ever really take off in Australia, actually.

Does anyone know if Kitsune might pick the album up? I know they put out Future as a single from the Midnight comp.

Mil (Mil), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont know if kitsune really put out artist albums do they?

i've heard though that things may be tentatively starting to roll in the UK now..... would love to think so.

glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

esoj, check out "If I Ever Feel Better" from United (also try "Funky Squaredance" which is wacky/not dreary at all), and see if you can track down "Heatwave".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 November 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"(x-post:) I dunno, in a brave stand against rockism, I've only listened to the album a couple of times."


I love this.

Last week I recorded the Future and Saturdays 12"s to laptop so I can listen to them at work! THE WAR CONTINUES.

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 28 November 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It's officially #3 on my P&J Ballot now. This is just a damn magnificent album, like an extended meditation on the Aerodynamic/Digital Love segue in Discovery. Exceptions: "The Twilight", which is what I imagine "Daft Punk is Playing at [James Murphy's] House" should've sounded like, and "Bright Neon Payphone" which oddly reminds me of the best imaginable Dinosaur Jr.

MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Friday, 3 December 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Kit, could you gmail the 12s?

C0L1N B, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Btw, if you ever get a chance to see them live; DO IT.

C0L1N B, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like this thread has been restored from a backup and lost the intervening weeks' conversations where I noted that I'm on a 46.6.connection and still have the files as .wavs not .mp3s but am making a CD compilation and am up for trading blah blah

particularly annoying as I listed everything I already have

might go and see them in a pub on NYE

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, okay. Thanks anyway.

They're playing at the Hopetoun with the Presets on NYE, right?

C0L1N B, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the one.

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

still hasn't been released in NZ. their "dutch boys" rmx of love of diagrams "no way out" is pretty good.

etc, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I went on a mad spree this afternoon with my Christmas bonus money and picked up an import copy of 'Bright Like Neon Love' purely because of what I'd read on this thread - which I only read because I liked the name - and it sounds fucking outstanding.

Thanks everybody.

I'm sure that if can just stroll into a record store in London and pick up a copy off the shelf, then somebody - Beggars Banquet maybe? - must have signed it up and are preparing to push it with a 'proper' release sometime in the new year?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 24 December 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i bought myself bright like neon love for christmas a couple of weeks ago too, i've been giving it a thrashing, especially at my clothes shop job, i'm convinced it's making my customers spend up. i think i'll have to ration myself now though or i might get sick of it. it is a great album i think, i love the gradual change of pace from start to finish.

gem (trisk), Friday, 24 December 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

also good in this vein if not quite as fantastic is the two EPs by the Presets, who are Cut Copy labelmates. i lurve 'girl and the sea'..

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 24 December 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The Presets were really bad when I saw them live, but I'm willing to believe the record is better. Especiallu if they're on Modular.

C0L1N B3CK3TTT, Friday, 24 December 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

first Presets EP was pretty disappointing except the last track which is like the gothtacular dancefloor killer my teens wish they'd gone out on

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 24 December 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I now have mp3s of all the remixes if anyone else wants them...

C0l1n B--KETT, Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

have you got Hunder Twasser or the remixes they've done of other people question mark question mark exclamation mark

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 6 January 2005 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

[email protected] (Remixes *by* Cut Copy only please, "no" to 'The Light Brigade', which I have). Thanks.

Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad this got resurrected tho', because I listened to the album again last night, and I'm still in love with its magic.

Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I just have the 12" remixes, sorry to confuse.

C0l1n B--KETT, Thursday, 6 January 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(i.e. the Zongiman, !!! and Chromeo mixes of "Future" and the Kingroc "Saturdays" mix)

C0l1n B--KETT, Thursday, 6 January 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

After 5 days of playing this on a loop, I’m ready to say this is my favorite album of 2020 so far.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 27 August 2020 04:12 (five years ago)

I've only listened to it once and it kind of passed me by. I'll definitely be sticking with it though as they're one of the most reliable bands going. The last album was really underrated.

kitchen person, Thursday, 27 August 2020 04:17 (five years ago)

This is the first album of theirs I've mostly enjoyed since In Ghost Colours

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 27 August 2020 14:23 (five years ago)

It's an album you need to play a few times. Not many tracks leap out as the 'hits', but it's so solid and coherent. I have to start at song 1 and let it play the whole way through.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:20 (five years ago)

Ok yeah, you're right. I just put it on for a third listen on a walk in the sun and it sounded glorious. It felt too slight at first, but it's already starting to grip me with how it maintains that beautifully chilled out mood.

kitchen person, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:46 (five years ago)

I love "Zonoscope," but this is definitely the one that's drawn me back the most to listen to again and again since that one.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:07 (five years ago)

Zonoscope is so great (if you take off Where I'm Going). I know a lot of people didn't rate it, but I thought Free Your Mind was great too. It's probably helped by seeing them on that tour and it being one of most fun shows I've ever been to.

kitchen person, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:57 (five years ago)

I guess I should give this a listen, but this is something that has definitely changed in my listening life. Like, I don't have the time / patience / bandwidth to sit with and listen to an album 3 or 4 times that doesn't immediately grab me, to allow it to sink in any more, unless I have some real motivation to do so? (And I'm not sure what that motivation would be.)

Casual listening of bands I like, but don't really *love*, has kind of fallen by the wayside again. Which I feel is kind of a personal flaw, but also maybe that filtering process is necessary?

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 28 August 2020 07:56 (five years ago)

If you have to listen to an album by a band like Cut Copy three or four times for it to sink in then it's not doing the job properly. If they're not about the instant rush then what on earth is the point of them?

Matt DC, Friday, 28 August 2020 09:13 (five years ago)

Love this. The verses of "Like Breaking Glass" kinda sound like Eno/Cale's "Spinning Away" to me

willem, Friday, 28 August 2020 09:15 (five years ago)

I guess it depends on how one sees the band - like, are Cut Copy just a happy, funtimes pop band for dancing to, or have they become something more introspective and deeper which requires and rewards more attention? (I guess I'm thinking of the comparison of Perfume Genius, where I *do* feel that there is something deeper to them, that I should persist in trying to reach, even if the hit is not immediate.)

If a band has changed, but one's own perception of them has not shifted, maybe more listening it required to bridge the gap. But if they've changed to something that just doesn't appeal, or one's own desires have shifted (do I already have enough introspective bands in my life, and I just want happy fun party music now?) then it's not worth it. I'm trying to work out what the difference is, but I guess it's not important.

I'm listening to Like Breaking Glass right now, and there are lots of the interesting synth sounds and wurbles that I used to really love about their earlier pop singles? (But the tempo is quite slow and the melodies aren't as sugary, so.)

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 28 August 2020 09:32 (five years ago)

I think if on first listen you don't like it, you won't like it. But if on first listen you do like it, on listen 3 you might light it a lot more. I don't know if there is anything newly deep about the group, but there is an air of melancholy to this one in particular that sounds different and perhaps demands a bit more commitment. Relatively speaking, of course. I was listening last night and for some reason kept thinking of Portishead's Third. This is not that, but it does present new facets of a group that had a pretty definable sound.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 August 2020 12:12 (five years ago)

I guess i'm not really the kind of person who seeks out and values immediate sugary pop singles. Cut Copy already has a long list of pop hits you can shout along to, so i'm not that interested in them producing more of the same. I'm sure if they did put some of those kinds of songs on this album, people would be complaining about them treading water or just repeating themselves. Anyway, lots of music to listen to in the world, so convincing someone to like something you like is a waste of time.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 28 August 2020 16:57 (five years ago)

This sounded very immediate to me on first listen, it's very pretty and eager to please, it's not a collection of festival bangers but it doesn't strike me as something that's especially difficult to get into at all. Probably enjoyed it more than any of their records since In Ghost Colours.

Matt DC, Friday, 28 August 2020 17:38 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

I have so much I want to listen to, but I keep coming back to this album.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 September 2020 23:02 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

First headphone listen today revealed to me that this album is at the very least impeccably mixed (by the guy who mixes the Knife and Fever Ray). Close listening to a song like "Stop, Horizon" was pretty revelatory, and also just pretty.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 18:43 (five years ago)

yeah i love this, at least after my first listen. wasn't too hot on their last album. Free Your Mind is probably my favorite of theirs. can't wait to revisit this one soon.

DT, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 08:30 (five years ago)

four weeks pass...

the song that sounds like pacman at the start is fuckin baller

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 20 November 2020 23:18 (five years ago)

four years pass...

New single (sounding quite Parcels like)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zqN0TXUqqs

groovypanda, Thursday, 24 April 2025 11:55 (one year ago)

Don't know Parcels, but this is nice. I like how Cut Copy have leaned into subtlety.

There's a cool b-side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGSNdeQ1HmM

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 April 2025 12:18 (one year ago)

six months pass...

I noticed the band is playing seated shows this tour, that does not bode well for ticket sales. Neither does the lack of action on this thread, lol, or the general lack of buzz, or reviews of the new album for that matter.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 23:26 (seven months ago)

i listened to the new album once and it was very forgettable

i considered going to see them live earlier this year anyway but i had something else on unfortunately

ufo, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 23:38 (seven months ago)

Yeah, has its moments but nothing special. Even so, the group is really good live. Also noticed they're offering discounts for people who buy tickets as a group of four.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 23:45 (seven months ago)

Didn't they also release a greatest hits album recently? I think they would be a blast live but haven't seen them.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 01:58 (seven months ago)

they are a sold live act for sure

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 01:59 (seven months ago)

i saw them live like a decade ago and they were decent but the bass was way too loud

current tour they're playing most of in ghost colours so it probably would have been better

ufo, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 03:34 (seven months ago)

Playing a non-seated venue here. Unless there are four of you and you pay $5 extra each for a table.

fall of the house of urrsher (sic), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 05:18 (seven months ago)


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