Def Leppard 'Hysteria': C/D?

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13) the way "pour some sugar on me" was kept outta the number one spot by a power ballad (cheap trick's "the flame") so the lep went "oh, so it's like that huh? DEPLOY POWER BALLAD" and next thing you know "love bites" is the number one single.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

14) Mutt Lange. I mean, that goes without saying.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

15. Great liner notes.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

16) ARMAGEDDON IT.. ARE YOU GETTING IT?

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

17) "ARE YOU EXCITABLE...ARE YOU EXCITABLE...AREYOUEXCITABLEAREYOUEXCITAREYOUAREYAREARAAAAAA..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

17) All the saccharine-dripping fruitcake call-and-response pre-chorus shit in "Hysteria": the "I gotta know tonight/It's been a lonely night/ . . ." stuff as well as the "I'm just another guy/You're just another girl/It's just another night" stuff, always punctuated by Elliot's post-Alvin "Ooooh"s.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually we're up to number 19 with that last one, next one needs to be 20!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Lep's "Rocket" vs Smashing Pumpkins' "Rocket".
I know this is a Def Leppard appreciation thread, but I've got to side with Billy & Co. It's close, though.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

they're closer than you think!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

20) Speaking of "Rocket," how great is the video midsong break to T. Rex? Now that's a goddamn homage worthy of the name.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

AH NOOOOOOO FLASHBACKS FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL


and i hated the drum sound.

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

21) The first low vocodered "She's so dangerous" in "Don't Shoot Shotgun".

TS: Lep's "Rocket" vs Smashing Pumpkins' "Rocket"

DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

22) YAY THAT DRUM SOUND! Rick Allen loses an arm, Lange gets millions in digital drum technology to fool around with = echoing domination from the heights.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

22) oh god that weird ass 'rooowww, Rooooow, ROOOOOW' backward (?) part of the guitar solo, such awesomeness

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

23) might be one of the most over-produced albums EVERRR

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'm just another guy/You're just another girl/It's just another night" stuff

Oh wait, this one is actually in "Love and Affection".

24) "Hysteria" and "L&A" blend into one giant smeared-out falsetto ballad epic.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It's taken 20 years for me to discern any melodies at all in the oceanic whooshing and wind-whipping of this record. As a Def Leppard album I dud it, but as a triumph of production over band it's classic.

High N' Dry for this teenybopper.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

25) Hysteria:Ian::Loveless:Dr C

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

26) haha better drum sound than Loveless

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"All the saccharine-dripping fruitcake call-and-response pre-chorus shit in "Hysteria": the "I gotta know tonight/It's been a lonely night..."

It's actually, "I gotta know tonight/If your alone tonight"...;)

I memorized the lyrics from my brother's Hit Parader when I was in junior high. It doesn't get much better than "Hysteria" for power ballad goodness.

kickitcricket, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

"If you're alone tonight"

kickitcricket, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Mutt Lange is a genius as I only recently realised/appreciated properly

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud. I'm as big a Chuck Eddy (and Ned Raggett!) fan as you'll find, but I just can't imagine why Chuck felt it deserved an entire book, because 90% of it absolutely refused to imprint itself on my memory. (Any one of their previous three, particularly Pyromania, is more worthy of praise.) Simply inferior to all its obvious sources of influence, and probably the single most lifeless "heavy metal" artifact I've ever tried to listen to (and once owned). Goes in one ear, and...nothing. I just don't get it.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

27) *Weird guitar noises* "AN-I-MAL"

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

28) I need to go buy this album on my lunch break now.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

28) "Skin on skin ... let the love begin!"

Conor (Conor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm as big a Chuck Eddy (and Ned Raggett!) fan

! Why I'm flattered, but I don't think I've quite deserved to be spoken of in the same breath. ;-)

30) To perhaps answer Myonga's point -- as I said it's an industrial-pop album in ways, but more to the point it's a pop album straight up. A huge over-the-top one of course, but that's precisely its appeal for me at least, it's a place where x ALWAYS equals x. Literally half the album became singles that charted, and while that doesn't rival all but two songs off Thriller going top ten, say, it's still something. So it CAN catch, but I think thinking of it as a heavy metal album, quotes or no quotes, actually isn't the best or only way to regard it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

pour some sugar on me didn't go to number one??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

cuz it did at MY house!! i CAN'T see the flame, MFers

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

so classic it bites

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

so classic it bites

no.. love bites.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

C'MON STEVE

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

31) Simply the fact that the drummer had one arm and that he stayed the drummer. What utter dedication. Give the finger to the god of fate.

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know if this has been mentioned but the SINISTER REAGAN SAMPLES are what inch it even more towards classic

this will be played heavily at my delusions of grandeur party, even though this album's grandeur is earned!

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know if this has been mentioned but the SINISTER REAGAN SAMPLES are what inch it even more towards classic

There's number 32!

"THEY COUNTED WRONG."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

*missile sounds*

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

28) I need to go buy this album on my lunch break now.

Dammit I do too. In late middle school, I worked for a landscaping company raking leaves in the huge rich-people yards in the neighborhood where the governor's mansion is located in Nashville. I'm pretty sure Hysteria was the only thing I ever listened to on my walkman while doing that... It used to take me an entire 6-8 hour day to rake one of those yards, and I'd listen on repeat/auto-reverse the whole time.

Simply the fact that the drummer had one arm and that he stayed the drummer. What utter dedication

Rick Allen also managed to get arrested for assaulting his wife with only one arm. I tell ya the guy just never gave up in the face of tragedy.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, I think I've already written enough about this album. (= my whole second book, more or less.) That said, I haven't listened to it for years. (maybe because i wrote a whole book about it?) also, when i first heard it, i didn't like it at all. then i named the title (easybeats/raspberries/cheap trick as, er, muzak) ballad as a top ten single, and then the red light yellow light green light go crazy little woman in the one man show rap kicked in, then g.g. killer queen dizzy lizzy benny and the jets and all of "rocket"'s dub-metal, and then the rhinoceros in that one video and the t. rex riffs and everything. right now, i'd say i probably prefer pyromania, and if forced i'd maybe even be more likely to listen to either of the first two albums, just 'cause the songs are shorter (maybe punchier too?). but i'm still not martin popoff, who in HIS metal book loved the first three records and then gave hysteria 0.0 out of 10.0. Part of what makes the album so great, i think, is that metal guys DO hate it.
Plus it totally invented Shania Twain (among lots of other things).

chuck, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Shania Twain was born when Rick Allen's lost arm was zapped with radiocativity!

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

There's good discussion on this thread:

The decline and fall of Mutt Lange

including mention of British tv documentary about making the album, which I wouldn't mind seeing.

I like it, but Pyromania will always mean more to me, even as I recognize Hysteria is certainly the more strange record, a singular document. I just like the tunes better on the earlier record.

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Supa-Classic.

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I'm wicked late to this thread, but to answer the question:

DUDD!!!!

Def Leppard officially stopped mattering after the last note strcuk on Pyromania. After said album, the boys ditched all their sonic ties to the NWOBHM that spawned them and basically attempted to become a vaguely metallic version of Wham! I, for one, have never forgiven them.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

a vaguely metallic version of Wham

But that's brilliant!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex NYC in hating fun shocker!

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

There's only 92 albums that I know I like more!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Wham! were never nearly so prog; Human League makes WAY more sense:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB020405181212270411&sql=A8isxlfde5cqq

chuck, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh, nice. You included the quote about how Phil Oakey said that Def Leppard were a Sheffield synth group like the HL in one of the books, didn't you? Or so I recall.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"Fun" is a relative term. If you consider "fun" to be defanged, sugar-coated soylent green, then you just go right on ahead and choke yourself down some, Rickyboy.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Soylent Green is made of Leppard!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Same in the Cars and Foreigner. Listen to, say, "Hello" or "Urgent," respectively.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 10:14 (one year ago)

A few Shania Twain songs like "I'm Gonna Getcha Good" have that same call-and-response. The hallmarks of a Mutt production are being big and bright, and having those vocal stacks

Vinnie, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 10:28 (one year ago)

I need a playlist of all of his stuff

calstars, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 11:13 (one year ago)

It's called "life."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 11:25 (one year ago)

Just found this one on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5mMK085PGn71nQHfZdNcZz?si=GlULBXnZQvawhuWdS7pQlA&pi=8rx_q6KaTpi4R

Several surprises on there for me: he produced "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)"?

Vinnie, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 11:44 (one year ago)

That song has such big gaps after each line of the pre-chorus and chorus, wonder how he resisted throwing in a vocal stack of "it's not worth dying for"

Vinnie, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 11:48 (one year ago)

dang I really really love this album

7372727) “when you get that feeling (when you get that feeling) when you start believing (when you start believing)” -> one of the best evocations of falling in love ever

brimstead, Saturday, 29 March 2025 00:49 (one year ago)

otm - it’s my all-time favorite Def Lep song!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 March 2025 01:46 (one year ago)

It's called "life."

a+

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 March 2025 01:55 (one year ago)

It really is the best album

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Saturday, 29 March 2025 04:07 (one year ago)

Such truth.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 March 2025 04:21 (one year ago)

Whoa, I didn’t know he worked on those classic AC/DC songs

whisper of milk (morrisp), Saturday, 29 March 2025 05:10 (one year ago)

my go to (non def lep) alb for that mutt sound is waking up the neighbors. sadly, it’s very good, and feels v much like hysterias cousin. thought I’d died and gone to heaven, depend on me (the middle section til the end), if you wanna leave me, is your momma gonna miss ya, vanishing, do I have to say the words, all I want is you, don’t drop that bomb, not guilty… could draw a nearly direct line to most hysteria tracks from those

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Saturday, 29 March 2025 07:29 (one year ago)

They don’t really get talked about anymore, but those two albums Mutt Lange produced for The Boomtown Rats sound excellent. I think he produced The Fine Art of Surfacing right around the same time he did Highway To Hell

I really don’t listen much to Def Leppard, but “Animal” is just a massive, incredible song that 100% earns its awesomeness. Joe Elliot OTM: “If you can’t handle the responsibility of a hit single, don’t write one."

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:10 (one year ago)

my go to (non def lep) alb for that mutt sound is waking up the neighbors. sadly, it’s very good, and feels v much like hysterias cousin. thought I’d died and gone to heaven, depend on me (the middle section til the end), if you wanna leave me, is your momma gonna miss ya, vanishing, do I have to say the words, all I want is you, don’t drop that bomb, not guilty… could draw a nearly direct line to most hysteria tracks from those

― lil $CHUB (Spottie),

"Can't Stop This Thing We Started."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:43 (one year ago)

Gonna have to get in the mindset that I’m listening to a mutt Lange album and not a Bryan Adams one

calstars, Saturday, 29 March 2025 11:15 (one year ago)

I got through maybe 5 songs on waking up the neighbors while raking up my yard this morning pre-coffee. Yeah sounds like hysteraua’s half brother. Closer than a cousin. Mutt must have been smiling when he put it together.

calstars, Saturday, 29 March 2025 23:05 (one year ago)


"Can't Stop This Thing We Started."


For sure, I kinda left off the big hits but that one def has the feel.

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Sunday, 30 March 2025 17:28 (one year ago)

do I have to say the words

lol this song, i just adored it as a boy. still something touching about the shape of the chorus - the questions sung like interlocutions between that big lead guitar hook.

glum mum (map), Sunday, 30 March 2025 17:55 (one year ago)

yeah it kinda squirrels its way to its chorus

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 March 2025 18:06 (one year ago)

That’s my fav one

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Sunday, 30 March 2025 18:53 (one year ago)

I got in the car twice today. The first time “Hysteria” was on the radio when I turned on the engine and the second time it was “Pour Some Sugar on Me.”

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Sunday, 30 March 2025 20:01 (one year ago)

the guitar solo in the title track is kind of a curveball, right? you would expect some screechy pyrotechnics but it kinda sounds like it should be on a replacements or crowded house album or something.

brimstead, Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:11 (one year ago)

Yah def more of a guitar break than a solo

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Sunday, 30 March 2025 23:00 (one year ago)

Cranking this album today ... forgot how much "Armageddon It" rules.

alpine static, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 20:14 (one year ago)

Yeah it's one of the more straightforward songs and yet probably also my favourite ?? After "Rocket" at least

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 21:44 (one year ago)

C'mon, Steve ... get it!

alpine static, Thursday, 3 April 2025 02:04 (one year ago)


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