― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)
While "FofN" does have a dreadful cover (and the last track "Network News" is an appallingly bad song), the rest of the album probably represents the best collection of songs amongst his solo albums. "Down to the Sea", "Come into my life", "Calling to you" - all good.
"Tie Dye on the Highway" from "Manic Nirvana" would rock like a behemoth if it wasn't for that godawful 80s drum sound... Elsewhere, I'd go for "I cried" and "Nirvana". "Hurting Kind" though goes straight in the bin alongside "Tall cool one".
"Now and Zen" I've never been over the moon about... I mean "Dance on my own" for heaven's sake! Oh dear. It does have "Ship of Fools" though, a solid track, and a few other decent tunes, but Phil Johnstone's influence is a little too pervasive in places. "White clean and neat" is one song I have always had a soft spot for.
"Shaken 'n Stirred"... hmmm, never really been able to get my head around this one. Plant goes new wave synth pop? The video for "Little by Little" is a bit of a trip.
"The Principle of Moments" - some good tracks, eg. "Big Log", "In the mood". Great videos for both of them also.
"Pictures at Eleven" - what? No "Slow dancer" on the new comp? They must be kidding! I have a bootleg somewhere with a cracking live version.
― steve, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― steve, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― calstars (calstars), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)
Recently? It's more than ten years old now!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― steve, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)
I never heard that Coverdale/Page record. I bet I'll probably hear it before I die, though. Then again you never know. I've gotta believe there are at least one or two well-constructed riffs on there somewhere; it's Page, after all. About half of Outrider was actually really good.
Man, this track-listing for the Plant best-of is pretty wack. How the heck can you leave off "In the Mood"? And they should have put "Far Post" on there ("Big Log" B-side, and a good tune in its own right), instead of like 5 (?!) tracks from Fate of Nations.
Still I'm pretty curious to hear that early track recorded with Alexis Korner.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Completely correct, Steve. For some reason, I inexplicably deleted "iron". I'm losing my mind. In any event, it's still an abjectly crap lyric. That particular track is littered with similarly cringe-worthy couplets.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)
OH NO! That naughty Thom Jurek is at it again! Check out that line about Lester Bangs.
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)
OH NOES! That naughty Thom Jurek is at it again! Check out that line about Lester Bangs.
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― d.w., Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― d.w., Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)
I totally loved "Tie Dye to the Highway" at the time (Grade 6/7). I really liked "Hurting Kind" too. I also remember "Liar's Dance" being good. Some of the rest too. I remember writing a review of Manic Nirvana for a Gr 7 English assignment and saying that it was pretty good but leaves the listener wanting a little more.
I think the coolest thing about his 80s solo career was how he reinvented his persona as this button-down shirt-wearing English gentleman artiste, sort of a hippie Peter Gabriel.
"Tall Cool One" was great, WTF? Or at least I thought so then. "Ship of Fools" too. I don't remember that album as well.
Yeah, "In the Mood" is good.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)
and yes, some of his solo stuff is pretty good ... i always liked "in the mood," "little by little," and "heaven knows" (though the lyrics are sorta c-grade bryan ferry [OF ALL PEOPLE FOR MR. DOES-ANYONE-REMEMBER-LAUGHTER TO TRY TO IMITATE COULD YOU SEE THE FAVOR BEING RECIPROCATED?!]). the honeydrippers "sea of love" remake is silly, but it lead me to the original version so it's all good in the end (plus the video was prime mid-eighties cheese and the chick therein looked like a high-school teacher i really crushed on big time).
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 6 November 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 7 November 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.borntoboogie.net/Images/premiere/tv_robplant_rolan.jpg
(That's Tony Visconti and Rolan Bolan, Marc's son, on either side of him at an event for the Born to Boogie DVD.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Monday, 16 May 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)
An unmentioned song I still go back to: the beautiful synth ballad "Thru With The Two Step" from Principle of Moments. Man, I wish he'd locked into that sound/vibe and just stayed there....
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 16 May 2005 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)
I like Robert Plant's first three records (the Robbie Blunt trilogy) a lot, and appreciate the effort on Plant's part to make them NOT sound like Zeppelin. Which would've been a mistake, considering how his voice has deteriorated over the years - couldn't hit the high notes anymore. His next few weren't very good at all, although sampling the Beastie Boys was a clever move. "Calling To You" and "Tie Die On The Highway" were pretty spacey. (Incidentally, what the heck was up with those ultra-arcane song titles, anyway? Were they dope-inspired? pulled at random out of a hat? i-ching toss-results? or just inside jokes? Dunno; but one of the few that made sense: "Mystery Title"!
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 16 May 2005 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)
He has since irritatingly renounced said efforts, alas.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)
Actually I didn't even know there was one!
I have to say I kinda regret not getting The Principle of Moments back when I heard "Big Log" and "In the Mood" on the radio in upstate New York -- both reasonably big hits and spun quite a bit. I was 12 then and had I picked up the album and really gotten into it, it would have been interesting to see how I viewed Led Zep and much else in retrospect.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
I think Zeppelin's cover art is/was unfairly derided...most of it is really good. Obv. it was Page (the former art student), who was in charge of hiring Hipgnosis.
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)
One of the Hipgnosis guys (most likely Storm Thorgerson) proposed artwork for Houses Of The Holy with a picture of a tennis match on the cover. When asked what it meant, he said "Don't you get it? Racket!" and that was the end of that.
― Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)
Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live
I saw them do as their opening number on the Album tour....only the band played it before Lydon took the stage (releaving him of the burden of singing it).
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)
I can't belive how many times I've heard the latest single in the last six weeks; it's not something that would make me search out this album, but the one acoustic track I did hear was surprisingly good. How many songs on the album are like that?
― Vic Funk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh, the pumping irony.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)
100 Best Album Covers
If these are the 100 best, rock and roll is a very boring beast.
I recieved this book as a gift a few years ago, and man, is it pretentious and dull. Here is 2% of the list:http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000025NCI.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004YS2O.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
That's right. Yer lookin' at TWO OF THE ONE-HUNDRED BEST ALBUM COVERS OF ALL TIME.
Some of the list is some of the hundred best, but there's a lot of stinkers in there, too. I would only suggest reading this at the bookstore while waiting for your mate to finish shopping.
(I would've put this on another thread, but A.) Storm Thorgerson's name has already been dropped in here like he was Candyman and B.) This is an Alex in NYC thread, so album cover talk shouldn't be discouraged.)
Take a wild guess which LZ cover they liked the best?
http://www.starland.com/sf-sc/sf01/images/Monolith/Monolith.jpg
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)
Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir liveSomeone, somewhere HAS to have a copy of this...?
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Pictures At Eleven and Principle Of Moments are awesome! I particularly like Robbie Blunts watery Strat playing on POM. Big Log and In The Mood are gorgeous songs.
― Brooker T Buckingham, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
Gonna be smoking a phat one alfresco to this tune during those long summer evenings.
That I guarantee ;DCnutRexAnglorum 2 months ago 42
― dell (del), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
I actually still adore "Heaven Knows." But, again, "Tall Cool One" is just lame, lame, lame.
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
he's had an admirable career i think, definitely followed his own path without really seeming to be weighed down by the legacy of zeppelin
― om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
after Peter Gabriel no lead singer has Done His Own Thing to more rewarding effect.
― livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:32 (fourteen years ago)
Pictures At Eleven and Principle Of Moments are awesome! I particularly like Robbie Blunts watery Strat playing on POM. Big Log and In The Mood are gorgeous songs.― Brooker T Buckingham, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:46 AM (1 hour ago)
― Brooker T Buckingham, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:46 AM (1 hour ago)
Eeek, the tone is way too nasally and dry for my tastes.
― it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
Big Log is the biggest WTf moment of the past few weeks. Guitarist tone is so awful, his pull-offs amateur. Whole song sounds like some lounge effort. Drums and pads are almost modern sounding. "...and the coming of night time" ok
― calstars, Friday, 1 March 2013 02:42 (thirteen years ago)
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/03/robert-plant-teams-with-pixies-for-north-american-tour/
― how's life, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:59 (eleven years ago)
I think "Lullaby and... the Ceaseless Roar" is as good of an album I would expect or want from Robert Plant on the 21st Century.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 July 2017 23:40 (eight years ago)
Yep!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 July 2017 00:26 (eight years ago)
solid perce
― mookieproof, Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:25 (eight years ago)
anyone listening to his podcast? it's kind of nice. He's all over the place but enjoyable to listen to.
Also learned that Richie Hayward played on Shaken n Stirred, now I have to go listen to that one
― calstars, Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:36 (six years ago)
Robert Plant and Phil Collins backstage at Madison Square Garden, NYC during Plant's 1983 'Principle of Moments' tour pic.twitter.com/7vrEJWZ5ta— Barney Hurley (@barneyhurley1) May 2, 2021
― calstars, Monday, 3 May 2021 03:04 (five years ago)
boss business
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 May 2021 03:05 (five years ago)
“The break is in 7/8”
― calstars, Monday, 3 May 2021 03:16 (five years ago)
"Lighten up, baby, I'm in love with you!"
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 May 2021 09:33 (five years ago)
you were pumping iron while i was pumping irony
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:11 (two years ago)
Heaven knows!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:13 (two years ago)
Destroy: "Big Love"
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 19:28 (one year ago)
Time hasn't been kind to Manic Nirvana, but...search: "Nirvana" and "Your Ma Said You Cried in Your Sleep Last Night".
"Tie Dye on the Highway" holds up but would be well served by a radio edit.
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:11 (one year ago)
Wrap Your Arms Around It Joyfully: "Big Log."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:28 (one year ago)
"Tie Dye on the Highway" sounds like The Mission going baggy. Big fan of that and also "S S S & Q" and "Anniversary". Just as McCartney likes to view Tomorrow Never Knows, McCs I, II and the Fireman as his on/off experimental strand, I like to imagine Plant has an equivalent art-pop one wrt HotH, ITTOD, Shaken 'n' Stirred, the hip hoppy stuff on Manic Nirvana.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:52 (one year ago)
yeah, "S S S & Q" sounds like they tried to write a Prince song
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:49 (one year ago)
“The Way I Feel”: always good for driving at night to a deal gone bad.
― the way out of (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:52 (one year ago)
Led Zeppelin's Robert Plant Nearly Attacked On Stage In Buenos Aires. pic.twitter.com/tCJaz4fYQa— Rock Photography (@Photomusicrock) August 20, 2025
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 August 2025 03:04 (nine months ago)
IMPORTANT NOTE! Event happened in 2012. The Led Zeppelin star was performing with his band The Sensational Space Shifters in Buenos Aires.
― visiting, Thursday, 21 August 2025 03:28 (nine months ago)
Damn Twitter.
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 August 2025 03:41 (nine months ago)