yes on CiM, no on latter-day plaid (pretty much everything after not for threes)
rocketmann! is my nomination. fantastic, prescient shit. everyone who dug kelley polar should listen to rocketmann!.
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 10:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Not classic, certainly lost and idm.
Does anyone remember an artist who released a bunch of cds circa 97-99ish? One word name - possibly german.
Little to no 12"s but a lot of self releases full length cds.
Very idm, very post autechre. Not funkstorung!
I remember the existence of such an artist from old forced exposure and mdos listings but the name is lost.
― passaic, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
self released
― passaic, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
ha ha oh dear
― geeta, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
schlammpeitziger?
― corey, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
Oval?
― mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
oh self-released nm
t. raumschmiere?
― brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
Joseph Nothing - Disc'o Nostalgia
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 07:08 (twelve years ago) link
Markant? Except that was vinyl.
― chrondos crispus (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 07:11 (twelve years ago) link
So like, the opposite of what you're saying except the german and self-released part.
― chrondos crispus (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 07:12 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, Markant! I had completely misremembered, thanks!
― passaic, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, cool! Happy to help.
― chrondos crispus (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 30 June 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
wow, gang - we solved that mystery pretty fast!
― karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 June 2011 07:49 (twelve years ago) link
In the early 2000s I ran an online community for IDM bedroom jerks. We put together some not bad compilations. Eventually we got a nascent 65DaysOfStatic onboard and started getting calls from Rephlex Records, but nothing lasting came from it. Don't know whether they're available online at all anymore, but if you're looking for IDM obscurities, you can do worse than these:
http://www.discogs.com/Various-CcommD-I/release/6867http://www.discogs.com/Various-CcommD-II/release/6868http://www.discogs.com/Various-CcommD-III/release/6869http://www.discogs.com/Various-Ccommd-IV/release/6008http://www.discogs.com/Various-TEFOSAVOutput/release/469089
― la tristessa demerera (dog latin), Thursday, 30 June 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/Alex-Cortex-Inward-CTRL/release/142594this is really good, reminds me of ilkae at times but more chilled and funky. next gen idm is best with short track durations.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 07:02 (nine years ago) link
the 7 minute track on there is great
― saer, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 08:23 (nine years ago) link
the CiM album on Ann Aimee is similarly awesome
never really got into the other two albums they put out (the dribs and lucky & easy) but peeps looking for obscure IDM might dig
― the late great, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link
not so obscure but seemingly forgotten - jega's spectrum + geometry, astrobotnia i + iii
― the late great, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
have u heard the newest aleksi perala stuff? i posted abt it in an ancient astrobotnia thread but that prob dropped off sna immediately
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL05YPqhPmTtJCfPdWzQTOGLgKuJ0mwyqj&v=BjqAbNQakrc&feature=player_embedded
― clouds, Thursday, 14 August 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
yeah this new aleksi perala stuff is crazy!
http://www.ovuca.com
― the late great, Friday, 12 September 2014 08:23 (nine years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/milanw/capella
soft serve stuff, i know. this sounds so much like esa ruoho it's crazy, but i like it better than esa's stuff (except for his contribution to merck's ambient comp aurora, which is beautiful and harsh but not in a cliched fenneszy/timhecker way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFD7wFgurLE
― brimstead, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link
I just found out about this guy recently from one of the campus radio stations and it's really cool, interesting stuff. I haven't really broken down his tuning system but I do like how it sounds. I've been listening to his latest release on Bandcamp. He's got a huge catalogue, though. Any tips on where to start with it? I see nakh and clouds were into this five years ago.
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 February 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpXnWaZfPBo
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:50 (five years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=EmntypXXGo8
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:54 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXTqqlsaJ5k
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:57 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmYlKlOBEyk
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 3 February 2019 04:56 (five years ago) link
Access to Arasaka - Void();
― pomenitul, Sunday, 3 February 2019 10:10 (five years ago) link
Cepia (2007)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfzyD9fF17s
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
https://youtu.be/xoRE1PM7Pfs
― beard papa, Friday, 15 February 2019 04:50 (five years ago) link
I don’t know how to embed from zing. I had a surprisingly hard time finding Pub’s Summer. Surely that one was a classic. Shocked Pub never released anything else.Also loved Global Goon’s Vatican Nitez - especially Stan’s Slaves. Not sure if it qualifies as lost or classic.Another favorite of the era is Savath & Savalas’ Folk Songs for Trains, Trees, and Honey which is easy to find on Youtube so again I guess not lost anymore than the genre itself is.
― beard papa, Friday, 15 February 2019 05:02 (five years ago) link
I've got nothing to do with this project, but I was the one who started it coming up to 20 years ago https://tefosav.bandcamp.com/
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 15 February 2019 09:48 (five years ago) link
some of my tracks appear on the earlier comps as dog latin and autofire
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 15 February 2019 09:49 (five years ago) link
Not sure how lost or classic this is, it's only from 2012 but it is a lot like melodic early 90s Black Dog. The album is really nice if a bit unfocussed; The producer's thing is mostly Detroit-inspired techno in funny / shifting time signatures.
https://youtu.be/cbI7JOwkC5A
I did a couple of computer music releases around the turn of the millennium IDM glut era, one of which is very lost, surely only a handful of copies got out there. The production is rough but the ideas still good, I think. Using generative and evolutionary processes for melodies and rhythms (but 'playing' the systems) and lots of granular synthesis and that. Probably slightly more fun than that sounds ;-)
― *there's (Noel Emits), Friday, 15 February 2019 11:07 (five years ago) link
Another favorite of the era is Savath & Savalas’ Folk Songs for Trains, Trees, and Honey which is easy to find on Youtube so again I guess not lost anymore than the genre itself is.
This is a really lovely album and I'm sad it's not on Spotify
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 15 February 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link
myloveilove
― ||||||||, Friday, 15 February 2019 15:05 (five years ago) link
o9 - Church of the Ghetto P.C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqHfi73l80&list=PLA__S2xSRpHHsY7Xhi23HKmEemtZlWofX
― octobeard, Sunday, 17 February 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
Ooops fixed the link
Guess playlists have issues auto-embedding here
― octobeard, Sunday, 17 February 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r)
the stuff as astrobotnia and ovuca is twinkly clicky early 00s
as aleksi perala, the mental union 2CD album is really fantastic, lots of breakbeat and acid references
MU3 (as AP Musik) might be his most perfect album overall, just beautiful minimal compositions
all the colundi sequence albums are worth hearing at least, but there's so many of them that they blur together somewhat. really cool minimalist techno, kind of like a chiller jeff mills.
― clouds, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link
This Aleksi Perala track finally made me a believer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0XgaIrlMKw
― lukas, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link
Usually when this thread is bumped I question whether I ever really liked IDM at all. That was pretty good though, except for the people humming tunelessly and groaning grotesquely in the background.
― what if bod was one of us (ledge), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 08:59 (five years ago) link
i'm going to get all street-team about dennis busch's work as james din a4/ pop dylan / krieghelm hundewasser etc, which never really seems to get much recognition. goofy mushroomsy kraut skank like MoM / schlammpeitziger but with malfunctioning casio / deep house M & A Oehlen undercurrents. no mean gothy metal minor key "my algorithm beats yours" but crosswired jimmy jam & terry lewis with woozin drones & shit presets. sadly the pingipung "best of" & the jan jelinek mix set on faitiche don't concentrate on the more wayward aspects but hey ho. check some out
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 13:16 (five years ago) link
thanks for the reminder about christ. bandcamp has HOURS of his stuff that i don't know, all for cheap.
― koogs, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link
goofy mushroomsy kraut skank like MoM / schlammpeitziger but with malfunctioning casio / deep house M & A Oehlen undercurrents
OK, I'm sold! anywhere good to start if you don't think the "best of"s are, well, the best of?
o9 - Church of the Ghetto P.C. -- otm, totally underrated classic
I had a surprisingly hard time finding Pub’s Summer. Surely that one was a classic. Shocked Pub never released anything else.
didn't he set up Ampoule records and release a bunch of mostly his own stuff on that? maybe you weren't counting that
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link
proswell - carrot dossier for extremely melodic complexly emotional slightly video gamey idm
― brimstead, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link
xp.you can still sample a few james din a4 / esel releases at decks.de
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link
I absolutely kick myself for not picking up ESEL 03 when browsing in a Copenhagen record shop a few years ago. All Dennis Busch records should be buy on sight. Miss Kittin mixes in his 'Flaming Creature' with Madonna's 'Material Girl (extended mix)' on her '@ Fritz Love Radio - Love Parade 2001' mix.. devastating.
― mmmm, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link
I guess he's sort of a fit for Sonig or A-Musik which I love.
― mmmm, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link
Feeling this solar x reissue. Crazy how all that delay knob tweaking is so all over recent productions
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:56 (five years ago) link
Friend of mine specifically requested idm artists who might be good to collaborate with on a ballet. Out of the ten artists I sent her, she liked one. Her reply started "Yeah, dance is tough ... "
― lukas, Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:36 (five years ago) link
non-obscure gems, too! i recently picked up "ginger" and "g spot" on cd (used). hadn't listened in decades, somehow remembered it as much more ... techno? in a luke slater vein or something. they're definitely not what i'd call "idm" but fit in nicely with the rest of the "artificial intelligence" crew. i particularly like the "world music" touches (sort of along the lines of what black dog or ken ishii were up to) and the "speedy j !ive" CD that came as a bonus w/ this particular edition of "g-spot"
― the late great, Monday, 26 September 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
i'd never heard that remix. i remember loving "public energy no. 1" when it came out, another one i haven't listened to in decades. i was really really into lfo's "advance" in 96/97 and can recall thinking that he'd clearly been influenced it, or trying to better it. i think at the time i had difficulty telling the difference between the uk electronic music press and what i imagined was a cohesive, global "intelligent techno" scene, so nowadays i'm a lot less likely to buy into the idea that this producer is reacting to that producer or w/e, but there's definite mark bell vibes in that remix!
― the late great, Monday, 26 September 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
Ginger is such a lovely album, have in rotation more than any of the other original AI albums
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link
There was a shit four tet remix of this one IIRC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIGNfwcCuMM
― droid, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 10:16 (one year ago) link
Is there a thread where this is already discussed?
https://thedeepark.com
I was a bit sceptical that I needed an 8 hour IDM mix, but I love it.
― toby, Friday, 7 June 2024 07:27 (one week ago) link
i'll check it out - where did you hear about it?
― ledge, Friday, 7 June 2024 08:06 (one week ago) link
yeah this is fabulous
― ledge, Friday, 7 June 2024 12:26 (one week ago) link
it is excellent.i got the nudge about this the day before i had to do a 7 hour round trip to brighton to pick up mk2 from university.dropped this onto a usb stick.and yeah, it's the perfect soundtrack to a very long day of driving.
― mark e, Friday, 7 June 2024 17:17 (one week ago) link
good lord just 40 mins into this and it's like heroin in my veins. I can't wait to throw this on for an extended road trip or psychedelic trip
― octobeard, Saturday, 8 June 2024 07:18 (one week ago) link
Lot of really nice fx/layers added in on everything I've heard so far - this is pretty ambitious so far! If the quality and ingenuity is sustained to the end, that's quite the accomplishment.
― octobeard, Saturday, 8 June 2024 07:19 (one week ago) link
Eight hours is the right length, great stuff
― default damager (lukas), Saturday, 8 June 2024 15:38 (one week ago) link
somehow i missed that you can, er, scroll down on the website, to find not only an interview with the creator but a mini write up on every single track.
― ledge, Monday, 10 June 2024 08:08 (five days ago) link
that’s cool but it’s sort of weak that half the the track list is AFX or AE
― brimstead, Monday, 10 June 2024 14:39 (five days ago) link
I'm actually quite fine with that - Ae and AFX were insanely prolific between 92-98 between their main releases, side projects and remixes, and their respective sounds dominated the scene and influenced other artists in ways that often evoked "copycat" labels. What this mix does is somewhat accurately reflect my own listening habits of the era, and when I wanted to scratch the IDM itch it mostly contained releases that housed the tracks in this mix. It also seemingly has like 90% of what I would consider "essential tracks" of the era too, regardless of artist, and in that context it's understandable why RDJ and Booth/Brown dominate here.
There are some notable absences though. While Cylob has one track in the mix, there's no Kinesthesia tracks to speak of, no Jega, Speedy J, Plastikman, or Arovane (maybe a reach but his first two LPs are all time IDM classics to me). No mix is perfect, and certainly some core artists here are underrepresented (Boards of Canada, FSOL, Global Communication, Plaid/Black Dog), but in terms of adhering to a vibe and the core sources of those vibes, it hits a home run.
― octobeard, Monday, 10 June 2024 21:07 (five days ago) link
in the unlikely event anyone doesn't know this, itunes has a "remember playback position" option which is helpful for this mix
― default damager (lukas), Monday, 10 June 2024 21:15 (five days ago) link
Speaking of "copycat" artists and staying on topic with this thread, I kinda feel Brothomstates album Claro is an IDM classic and oft overlooked, despite getting released on Warp.
The closer, Viimo is seriously all time imho. Big Cichli vibes, but much more accessible and catchy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbsNuSBByz4
― octobeard, Monday, 10 June 2024 22:49 (five days ago) link
my friend made me a dope brothomstates mix cd-r in college
― brimstead, Monday, 10 June 2024 23:22 (five days ago) link
where my Merck heads at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjJdLGJOmDo
― brimstead, Monday, 10 June 2024 23:23 (five days ago) link
whaddup - my first post to this thread was repping MD's Between the Gaps!
― octobeard, Monday, 10 June 2024 23:35 (five days ago) link
Correction! It's "Between Gaps". Damn, I think I've been adding the "the" in there since I first heard it 25 years ago
― octobeard, Monday, 10 June 2024 23:37 (five days ago) link
Ah nice!
― brimstead, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 00:19 (four days ago) link
That said, because of you I went a bit in a Merck hole. Lot of stuff I overlooked on that label and will happily visit in the coming weeks, so thanks!
― octobeard, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 01:01 (four days ago) link
Also - apparently one of my favorite "lush" electronic albums of all time, Kettel and Secede's glorious When Can, got a remaster release in May with 2 extra tracks! The remaster is actually really lovely, and sounds quite a bit clearer and crisper. Both are Merck vets iirc
https://kettelandsecede.bandcamp.com/album/when-can-deluxe-edition
― octobeard, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 01:04 (four days ago) link
Oh shit. I love Born In A Tropical Swamp but haven't heard much else.
― default damager (lukas), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 01:18 (four days ago) link
oh wow i've been enjoying that record for years but didnt expect anyone else on this board to know it
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 02:09 (four days ago) link
Listening to the Brothomstates album "Claro" now, haven't listened or even thought about this in years. I own it on CD, one of the few albums I bought after only hearing a couple of tracks at the record store while browsing, what a cool discovery that was
― silverfish, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 13:38 (four days ago) link