― JoB (JoB), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky disco, Monday, 21 June 2004 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
how is senor coconut going to be 'mixed'?
― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link
One of being an absolutely shit hot producer who runs a pretty great label (so far)...
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Strongo - I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was digital.
― ___ (___), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I've heard Akufen DJ, he was good but there was nothing remarkable about it.
It looks like the tracklisting just about meets Canadian Content regulations!
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
This mix (as well as the cover) looks pretty tasty though.
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
That sounds a bit elitest. Its not like these are ministry of sound comps.
― hector (hector), Monday, 21 June 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link
It has been getting much better though since they got rid of the awful grey men meme.The Akufen cover is great, and I really like the cover with the gryphon too.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link
the cover looks more like one of those em:t records from c. '96 that looked real good in shops but somehow never made me the slightest bit interested in buying/listening to
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link
what an excellent way of phrasing why i don't really like akufen as much as i could. i think the insistence on rigorous "deepness" is why i prefer craig richards or tyler stadius to michael mayer.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 05:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 06:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link
of course disc 2 of the most recent Richards Fabric mix suffers majorly from the affliction of "rigorous eclecticism" in a way that Mayer's Fabric mix avoids. Can't speak for disc 1 as the promo fuxors never sent my paper a copy of that.
Re: Akufen - he's often so "ooh look here's another cool random sound every two seconds". What distinguishes the tracks I mentioned is a) they only use a few recurring motifs, and b) said motifs are actually motifs: melodic or sonic strands that are fairly full-bodied and not cut up into indistinguishable micro-blips.
Maybe typical Akufen is like the sonic embodiment of Lyotard's libidinal band: everything is shorn of its conceptual identity and reduced to stray sonic impulses, each one prized for how different it is to the others. And yet (and this is the problem with both Lyotard and Akufen's approach), this very emphasis on the uniqueness and materiality of each sound/impulse creates a sort of endless monotony too - a monotony of discrete disconnectedness.
I prefer the tracks where all of these stray bits of sonic fluf actually work together to create, like, a tune, or an emotive response, or etc. etc. ie. the Hegelian Akufen tracks.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
when i say the mayer fabric mix is rigorously deep i really mean the middle section from after westbam to before the jackson remix of m83. lots those tracks (superpitcher especially comes to mind) need some rat-tat-tat, y'know.
i'm glad you follow me on akufen. haha the lyotard/hegel bit is priceless!!
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 07:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link
i never thought of fabric 01 as being a more banging version of immer. that's a very interesting comparison to make...i will have to have a listen later. ugh, but i can't because i think fabric 01 was also among the cds stolen from me.
― tricky disco, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
pardon me (and Andy Battaglia and Simon Reynolds) for pointing out the blindingly obvious
I do find it funny that Todd Edwards' name gets mentioned every 30 seconds around Akufen, but Matthew Herbert never gets brought up...
because maybe My Way sounds SO MUCH like Edwards and HARDLY ANYTHING LIKE Herbert, perhaps?
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky disco, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
because you are a hipster.
seriously, though, "prima edizione" is about five years old now. most small labels don't keep shit in print (except formally) for three years, let alone five. the nervous tracks compilation wasn't hard to find at all - when it came out, which was almost four years ago. "full on!" is stocked by tower IIRC.
if you want to find the vinyl on i! try looking at a dance vinyl specialist. if you want to find the CDs i'd try a big tower records before other music or whatever. i always go to tower first when i'm looking for "mainstream" dance selections.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
but you'd vote for 'full on' over 'nervous tracks'?
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
yes. and I'd vote for a remixes comp over both.
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
ok, just ordered 'Full On'. thanks for the leads. just read your edwards v. akufen article in the voice -- although I agree that 'happy accident' plays a large part in akufen's method, I think he goes a long ways beyond purely random structuring. what I like about 'deck the house' is that the synth pads that would hold down the chord changes aren't there, but you can still reconstruct them in your head from the samples, they've all been precisely tuned & chosen. & I have a high tolerance for ADD sample onslaught.
recent akufen comp tracks seem to show him reintroducing the synth pad chords, and my attention falls right off when things go overt
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link
IMHO.
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link
How annoying/intrusive are his religious lyrics? I have low tolerance for such things.
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
And that's not to mention all the MacDonalds stuff which is very Akufen-y...
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link
it's very intrusive on "prima edizione". well at least very front and center anyway, some people would probably argue it's central enough to his music that the concept of "intruding" on the music is sort of odd. annoying? your mileage will vary. i will admit i get annoyed. spencer apparently doesn't.
the other stuff - the nervous comp, the locked on comps - is also spiritual but in a much more generic ny gospel garage house sense. i'm assuming you've already listened to enough garage and house that the odd gospel influence / vocal doesn't bug you too much.
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 24 June 2004 06:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 24 June 2004 08:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 24 June 2004 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link
All the basslines on the "Deck The House"-ish tracks on the album sound like they were played on the same bass preset.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 24 June 2004 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link
uh oh if his next record is anythign like the last live show I saw of his, then we are in trouble. granted, that was in a tate lecture room, and we were all sitting down, but it was limpid rubbish, just a lot of wishy washy ambient preset noises, and some dead cheesy water running samples and those silly jungle bird calls last heard on Enigma and every Bukem tune ever. IT was meant to be music for hsi friends unborn child, lets hope he keeps it on a private basis....
and dave yeah i second the anna kaufen idea. that are like the 'club' akufen. well the one 12" i have is decent.
and well, if when you are talking about the 'funk bassline', you mean 'deck the house', then that is the most pussy bassline ever. i remember everyone on ILM raving about it when it came out, but it is totally lame. like, it would be ok, but its so polite. Pump it up man, you released it on 12", you want it played in a club so just tweak the levels or something! i mean, honestly. maybe he shoudl have released it as anna kaufen ,then he would have had license to properly beef it up.
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 24 June 2004 08:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― ___ (___), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky disco, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link
i heard he did it in traktor somewhere. in fact i think it was a bit of promo copy for the cd but now i can't find it.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
This is Akufen for me. Maybe I'll get this mix though, and give him a chance.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link
that ep for me defines the whole genre and negates any arguements about akufen tracks not working in clubs. no bassline and yet the whole ep TOTALLY causes it on the dancefloor every time. i'm on my third copy.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky disco, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Because yeah, it's the greatest micro track ever.
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 16 July 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― dyson (dyson), Friday, 16 July 2004 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link
been listening to this alot recently: herbert > soul capsule mix of freaks > crackhaus is just fucking obscene
― creme1, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link
this is what the jesse rose body language should've sounded like
― creme1, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link
*removes 08 Senor Coconut - Smoke On The Water*
ah, perfect
― missingNO, Friday, 15 October 2021 05:20 (two years ago) link
Had completely forgotten about this mix. The tracklist certainly captures a moment in time.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 15 October 2021 08:39 (two years ago) link