The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dawnangelique

any good?

booty in da pants

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:42 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um aside from multiple beats by Danja on both albums i don't really see any connection beyond urban-leaning pop and pop-leaning rap/R&B kinda meeting each other halfway. also lol @ blackout-era britney like that's some kind of defining touchstone of anything outside the ilx hivemind.

it's a defining touchstone of the pop genre, i think - almost certainly the most critically acclaimed of her albums

the popjustice crowd (and most top 40/pop fans I've talked to) generally consider it to be the best pop album of at least the second half of the decade, if that means anything

yeah i was exaggerating about it being a big deal only on ilm but calling it her most critically acclaimed album is i think pretty off -- on metacritic it's 3% lower than Circus, 5% lower than In The Zone, 11% lower than Oops -- it's only put on a pedestal in a very particular internet bubble.

Eh, Metacritic only analyzes initial reviews, not an album's long-term legacy.

yeah obviously there's a lot of nuance that it doesn't accurately measure -- i'm just saying there's this kind of assumption that it's universally regarded as the high point of her career that i don't think really holds water

Realistically though Dawn Richard is highly unlikely to attain any success outside of that internet bubble (or an overlapping one) so it's not so misfounded or misleading a point of comparison.

If I say "maybe Dawn Richard's album is gonna be the 2011 equiv of Chain Letter" it's no more ridic, really.

yeah who knows if DR has any commercial potential (although LTTP might have legs enough to set her up well, who knows), but Blackout being singled out as a comparison point over all the other dancey Danja-produced R&B/pop albums of the last few years seemed kinda arbitrary.

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

i wanna know if the first 20 seconds to "let love in" are supposed to be part of the song or if it's part of another one - sounds absolutely heavenly

Really enjoying this but the shitty mixtape sound quality is really harshing my buzz. Why do these songs not sound louder?

'Sounds louder' is usually a bad thing imo.

i think he means the levels are quiet in an unmastered way that makes the whole thing sound less full/alive, which is a totally valid gripe and not at all an aesthetic thing.

"Hey" has not been singled out itt as a standout and that needs to be rectified.

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:42 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

if we're talking stuff from when Danja was Timbaland's right hand man (and those should probably count since Danja had a huge influence on the sound of those records), Timberlake's FutureSex and Furtado's Loose. but i was referring to stuff heavy on Danja solo productions like Diddy's LTTP and Press Play, Keri Hilson's 1st album, Danity Kane's 2nd album, Katharine McPhee's 1st album.

"hey" is amazing yes

ship otm

"runway" & "vibrate" are also the joints off this

i like how the art for this album could double as a los campesinos cover

kmt

:D

i feel like an asshole for loving "vibrate" the most cuz it sounds like the one that terius & los would've done

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

if anything i feel bad for loving the swagged-out ones so much. I'M ON MY SUPERMAN SHIT, WHIPPIN UP TOWN, BLOWIN UP SHIIEEET

that's why "runway" is the best -- bragging about her hair being real

NO HORSES UP HERE

exactly

they say they new guccis but i had em last year
i'm rocking everything that you really wanna wear

i also like to think that naomi campbell references in r&b have proliferated precisely because of her capacity for assault & battery with swarovski-encrusted blackberrys

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

haha, no longer feel weird for suggesting to kev k that vibrate kinda sounds like promise

props to Tim F for an excellent thread title that grabbed my attention and got me to listen to this, because I probably would've ignored it otherwise. listening for the first time now, and it's amazing!

I think I fell in love with her the second I saw there was a song called "Me Myself & Y" (not quite living up to the title, especially following up the excellent excellent "Hey", but still pretty good)

oh and now "Broken Record" is up next — poor lil "MMY", sandwiched in between these two motherfucking monsters

okay I realize that confessing this will probably make me public enemy #1 on this thread, but I still haven't listened to Last Train — just couldn't get excited about it, honestly. but if it's anywhere near Tell Tale Heart in terms of production and atmosphere/mood...

yeah TTH is very close to LTTP in sound and mood, definitely check it out. better late than never!

dope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgeO3sIIqkU

doper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F_Ou9gX2Bw

I really wish there was a CDQ version of Tell Tale Heart... or at least one that isn't so compressed and muddy sounding

^^^

i thought this was just gonna be a prelude to an album proper but everything's gone a bit quiet on the dawn richard front? this is still amazing though

HE ON ME LIKE BUTTER ON BREAD
FRONT ROW WHEN I'M DOIN MY DANCE

official title is the prelude to a tell tale heart, right?

so sad you bumped this when I didn't have any dawn richard synced to my iphone

haha i totally relate, h8 it when that happens

where is dawn richard :[

― dayo, Thursday, 17 November 2011 22:39 (Yesterday)

The mixtape (which is my 2nd favourite album of 2011) is so good that it's hard for me not to think of it as her debut album.

― Tim F, Friday, November 18, 2011 12:45 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

sez wikipedia (sics all over the place):

The Mix-tape The Prelude to A Tell Tale Heart or alternate title: #ATellTaleHeart[9][10][11] was released February 7, 2011 on her official web-site. There are 15 tracks.[10][12] It called "the prelude to..." because there will be official debut studio album by Dawn Richard entitled A-Tell Tale Heart, which she is working on for past 3 years.[13] She is working with Trendsetter (producer) on few tracks for that album.[14][15] Celebrating the release of her mix-tape, Dawn Richard organized several club events. On February 7, 2011 at "Milan" club in Baltimore[16][17] and on February 12, 2011 at PHX – "Nightclub MIXTAPE PARTY RELEASE".[18]

Dawn has announced that her major solo debut project will be a broken up trilogy of albums entitled "GoldenHeart, "BlackHeart", and "RedemptionHeart". "GoldenHeart", the first of the trilogy is expected to be released late 2011.[19] On June 19, 2011 a buzz track entitled "Stuck On Mad" was released to the public. Followed by a release of a remix to Frank Ocean's Novacane. The remix which was co-written by songwriter Intyce, hit the net on June 21, 2011 and reached over 5000 downloads within a few hours. Intyce was enlisted as one of the writers for Richards solo debut.[20]

2011-present: Golden Heart

SMFU (SAVE ME FROM U) was released on the internet 31st October and is set to be on the first album.[21] This album is set to have an concept of a alter-ego named NEON. The concept has not yet been discussed.

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, November 18, 2011 2:12 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i am d/lding "stuck on mad" and "smfu" now. no one mentioned them. and yeah putting together my EOY lists dawn ended up at #5, higher than i thought she would.

also she started following me on tumblr!

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, November 18, 2011 2:13 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3EGWZtOWKA

^^ luv it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izlttiuc8GY

really feelin this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhdTXp9Zdgo

not gonna go through all of dawn's tumblr lol but this is good too

http://concreteloop.com/2011/09/new-music-dawn-richard-love-wont-lose

think it's produced by the same guy who did the valentine's day mix of lttp?

i am d/lding "stuck on mad" and "smfu" now. no one mentioned them

brainwasher posted stuck on mad just upthread!

lol I think I missed that :/

SFMU is a jam though

album coming as soon as MARCH!!!

http://www.rap-up.com/2012/02/10/dawn-richard-preps-solo-debut-for-march-previews-new-song/

I feel the same about the vocal treatments. On the other hand, a more naturalistic treatment would further expose some of the lyrical weaknesses.

The vocals are very much part of the wash of sound, as on the Cocteau's Victorialand (in particular).

more background on the dozen things she's doing (a food truck?)
https://thecreativeindependent.com/people/musician-and-multimedia-artist-dawn-richard-on-creating-opportunities-for-yourself-and-others/

new single/twerk anthem "Bubblegum"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWyTq_9GdUA

oh hellllll yeah

I like those apparent "sell-outs" where the aloofness and left-field sounds keep the supposed hit song in its own elusive territory. Like creating a bridge and creating gaps at the same time. It's very credible. Retains her "aquatic" sound.
Only critique is that it's a bit over in an instant.

i am *really* enjoying this.

Dawn was great at the PopCon keynote, BTW; had a chance to chat with her almost by accident beforehand. A personable soul.

Uh...nobody posted this yet?

https://dawnrichard.bandcamp.com/album/the-architect

I'm listening to Goldenheart for the first time in a long time. Still holds up!

What else is worth hearing (and/or avoiding) in her discography? I haven't kept up with any releases since Goldenheart, including the jump to Merge Records.

Goldenheart is the one I would tell people to avoid, so not sure how valuable this will be to you. But I would simply proceed chronologically from there: Blackheart, Redemption, new breed, Second Line. I wouldn't avoid any of them, though Blackheart is probably my favourite

Haha I agree with all of that - Goldenheart is the one that feels most like a slog even though it has some fantastic individual moments. Blackheart is in many ways further out but it's better structured and sequenced. Then everything after that is a much easier listen though I don't think she has ever surprised as much again (at least until Pigments anyway) - this isn't really a criticism, there's very few artists who could maintain the kind of outward-expansion-trajectory which Dawn managed in the four years from early 2011 to early 2015.

https://dawnrichard.bandcamp.com/album/quiet-in-a-world-full-of-noise

new album with spencer zahn out in october... preview track is gorgeous

Yeah that's very nice. Would be happy for it to go on two or three times as long.

A tour too!

new album with spencer zahn is out. It's not as intriguing as the first one, but still very beautiful https://dawnrichard.bandcamp.com/album/quiet-in-a-world-full-of-noise

any opinions about it?

thats how I felt on one listen. didn't immediately floor me like the first but still very lovely. I really like them as a duo

Saw her with Spencer Zahn at Big Ears yesterday, they were great — songs were intimate and lovely. And I got a signed LP AND a hug from Dawn at the merch table. (She was hugging everyone.) I gushed a bit about being a fan since Armor On, she laughed and said, “I come in a lot of forms, don’t I?” The merch line moved slowly because she had real conversations with just about everyone, and took an extra few minutes to talk to a younger black woman who was also a performer, giving her a kind of a motherly pep talk and encouragement. She’s just the best.

i’m allergic to talking about how nice artists are but dawn was the nicest person on earth when i met her

coincidentally I blasted Redemption last night, might be her best.

Dawn in news today as she is being cross examined in Sean Diddy Combs trial by Combs lawyers over her testimony against him

I remember interviews with her like 7-8 years ago where she hinted at some pretty evil shit but clearly didn't want to give details. she seemed pretty scarred by whatever happened, though