The Geir Hongro listening club

That is better. I kind of wish Lee Perry would use the panning buttons a bit more often though. That is part of the reason why I love Chris Blackwell and Alex Sadkin - their extreme use of panning.

srsly geir, there's not a lot of music after about 1973 that we will both like, but im glad u like the congos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNYp7NwjO3w

nice

kid needs a distortion box tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvhX9D-qvT0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0EjN06Jo5s&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WLtwJWYtvA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJqQk3mgpYY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pxb8CS8puA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMMU9NrDAno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy5aAZbQa84&hd=1

it's a comp of other composers making pieces on the same synth artemyev used for the tarkovsky films. the schnittke track is particularly amazing, sounds like thomas dimuzio or zoviet-france

this track 'stream' is quite that great and 'u wouldn't have known' if familiar with his notated work only

no youtubes tho, alas

It is the intellectual musical traditions that count, not the folk/traditional ones

ya that is true more often than not but geir has always expressed distaste for ~intellectual~ music such that predominates itt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIo15gWMheA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzWhe5R_nUM

I wonder what Adorno would have thought of Genesis's "complexity"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHqcOGbaTGQ

if only old theodor hadn't carked it before pete gabriel and chums tore up the rulebook and truly set music to rights

20th century "classical" music has actually abanonded many of the ideas that the European classical tradition built upon, like being too influenced by less melodic pre-Bach music. Thus, it is less intellectuall and requires less skills than 18th or 19th century classical music did.

wakka wakka

can you read music notation, Geir?

can you read music notation, Geir?

Not very quickly, but I can. Generally, perfect pitch makes notation obsolete though. The most genius musicians always have perfect pitch.

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how much pre-bach influence is to be found within the works of barraqué, boulez, webern et al? i very much doubt any of those cared for the renaissance polyphonists as ralph vaughan williams did, for example

the syllogism inherent in your post seems to be-

bach is intellectual, some music is less bach-like than other music, therefore it is less intellectual

at the very least it must be admitted that other streams of music can be intellectual, even allowing for the dubious premise that 20th century composers was less influenced by bach than their predecessors

the ur-modernists especially were responsible for upholding bach as the 'father of all music', and the almost ~unearthly~ esteem webern and schoenberg held for bach would have seemed quite inexplicable to many of your romantic favourites

wtf, geir just wants to be a geir, leibe him alone

how much pre-bach influence is to be found within the works of barraqué, boulez, webern et al?

Generally the idea of stone age men just making some noise and calling it music.

wait, geir, you have perfect pitch? that's cool

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

I went to a school with one of the best music conservatories in the entire United States, and in my time there I met the following number of students with perfect pitch: One. My wife works at one of the premier music educations institutions in the US, one whose faculty members are drawn primarily from our local orchestra, which is world class, and she has NEVER met a student with perfect pitch. Ever.

The entire notion is simply preposterous. It's not even ridicule-able, it's just fucking stupid.

how much pre-bach influence is to be found within the works of barraqué, boulez, webern et al?

Webern did his thesis on Heinrich Issac iirc

Isaac*

the famous neolithic composer?

the poor sap could never fathom playing parallel fifths on an ARP2600

As for the 12 tone composers, they were really something of their own. Their fixation on dissonance was an intellectually interesting idea that sadly couldn't ever sound anything but shit. And musical skills is partly about learning how to avoid music sounding like shit, so there...

thanks, I can now save years of my time by skipping music school since I already know half of what entails musical skill.

The other half is "being middle class" so you're probably pretty much done.

just for reference, which chords should I avoid in order to not sound like shit?

half-diminished 7ths are OK but aug9s are right out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyGe6tD9Vfw

NO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21kpcD3pXfQ

OK

just for reference, which chords should I avoid in order to not sound like shit?

The ones that don't have a name.

They all have names!

cool, so I can use this and this

Generally, perfect pitch makes notation obsolete though.

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Does perfect pitch also imply perfect timing?

lol headexploding xpost

also according to Geir everybody with steady-tone tinnitus is a genius, because guess what, if you've got an F# whistling away in you ear 24/7, you have perfect pitch

stop stop i'm already dead

Oh shit if I can just sing a C# above it I've got an act I can take on the road.

They all have names!

So, if you play C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, B Flat and B at the same time, what is that chord called?

Berg uses a 12-note chord in the Altenberg Lieder iirc

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