Would you be interested in saying why you do not like live music?
Because I prefer music as something absolutely perfect that is recorded once and for all in the definite and undisputable original version, that should benefit a lot from perfect production with no mistakes, and as little so-called "soul" as possible. And I see music not as a social activity, but rather as a brain thing. Something you use a perfect artistic mind to create, preferrably all of your own if possible.
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)
More precicely: In the days of classical music, music was notated, with every single note strictly notated into notes that should be followed completely without any kind of interpretation. And I see studio recorded music the same way.
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)
I take it you don't like jazz then?
― Tuomas, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)
music was notated, with every single note strictly notated into notes that should be followed completely without any kind of interpretation.
Er, this is an "in your opinion" thing again, as opposed to "the composers' opinion", right?
Apart from that, I pretty much agree with the vague classical:pop::score:recording analogy as to what constitutes the ahem Platonic-type ideal identity of the work.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)
With jazz, I dislike the supposed improvisasion part, while I like the entire intellectuality, the advanced harmonies, the way-above-average musicianship and the entire "head music" thinking of it all.
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)
(or, more precicly, I dislike the folksy roots of jazz while I like its flirtation with classical music ideals)
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)
That's totally false.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)
And I see music not as a social activity, but rather as a brain thing
This is also a howler. Music is always already a social activity. Read 'Noise' by Jacques Attali.
― whatever, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)
does music make you lose control, lose control, lose control?
― max r, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)
that's very interesting, Mr. Hongro. However, it still seems improbable that you cannot cite one concert that achieved or came close to the ideals stated above. Genesis or Crowded House, for instance, seem to be artists that try or even achieve rather scrupulous fidelity to the source recordings when playing live.
So, in what I assume is thirty-plus years of loving music very much, can you not cite a single example of a time where artists, onstage, played music in a manner pleasurable to you? maybe when you were younger, when your aesthetic was not quite as developed as it is now?
― Veronica Moser, Saturday, 29 September 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)
Yo, why is Jadakiss as hard as it gets Why is the industry designed to keep the artist in debt And why them dudes ain't ridin' if there part of your set And why they never get it poppin' but they party to death Yea, and why they gon give you life for a murder Turn around only give you eight months for a burner, it's goin down Why they sellin' niggaz CD's for under a dime If it's all love daddy why you come wit your nine Why my niggaz ain't get that cake Why is a brother up North better than Jordan That ain't get that break Why you ain't stackin' instead of tryin' to be fly Why is rattin' at an all time high Why are you even alive Why they kill Tupac n' Chris Why at the bar you ain't take straight shots instead of poppin' Criss Why them bullets have to hit that door Why did Kobe have to hit that raw Why he kiss that whore Why
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 29 September 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)
otm. bach and mozart wouldn't recognize their own work today if they heard it played by any contemporary symphony orchestra.
― Lawrence the Looter, Saturday, 29 September 2007 23:44 (eighteen years ago)
So, in what I assume is thirty-plus years of loving music very much, can you not cite a single example of a time where artists, onstage, played music in a manner pleasurable to you?
Obviously several cases. I have been to Dire Straits and Peter Gabriel gigs, for instance, where the sound was almost identical to the album versions. But then, I guess the point for those who like live music is gone. And I have the album versions to enjoy, they are superior after all.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 30 September 2007 01:37 (eighteen years ago)
Geir,
What are the chances of Manchester United retaining their title this season?
Also, what do you think is Norway's long-term economic strategy to cope with the inevitable rundown of its oil production?
― PhilK, Sunday, 30 September 2007 11:39 (eighteen years ago)
thank you, mr Hongro!
who do you prefer as a bass player: John Illsley or Tony Levin?
― Veronica Moser, Sunday, 30 September 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)
Pretty good, particularly now that Chelsea has serious trouble and even lose points at home against mediocre Norwegian clubs in the Champions League. :)
Well, there is a certain fund that is much discussed in Norwegian politics. :)
Who is Tony Levin?
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 30 September 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)
YO WTF?
― Davey D, Sunday, 30 September 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)
Tony Levin has played, I believe, on every single Peter Gabriel record.
― Veronica Moser, Sunday, 30 September 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)
Gier,
During the Battle of Okinawa, do you think that General Buckner was correct to follow his strategy of attrition by frontal assault, or should he have taken the advice of General Geiger, and tried to outflank Ushijima by an amphibious assault on the southern beaches?
― PhilK, Sunday, 30 September 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)
You mean a European or an African swallow?
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 1 October 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)
Mr. Hongro…
I see on the Under pressure thread that you like a lot of David Bowie's music.
Do you dislike his songs "Boys Keep Swinging" and "Fashion," due to the rhythm sections dominating the tune's melodic qualities? And do you also dislike the guitar solos (played by Adrian Belew and Robert Fripp) since both are not in the song's tonalities?
― Veronica Moser, Sunday, 7 October 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)
No, I don't dislike those although they aren't among my favourite Bowie picks either. And as for Adrian Belew and Robert Fripp, I can tolerate guitar solos not being particularly tonal - they are just solos after all. I prefer the considerably more melodic guitar work of Steve Hackett though.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 8 October 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)
Dear G. Hongro,
What is your opinion on the music from Kid Icarus? link here I know it's just a video game, but there is some lovely melody and counterpoint to be found within these compositions, no?
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)
SMELL YO DICK SMELL YO DICK SMELL YO DICK SMELL YO DICK SMELL YO DICK SMELL YO DICK SMELL YO DICK SMELL YO DICK SMELL YO DICK
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)
Actually thanks for showing me there's a lot of old gaming nostalgia on Youtube. I didn't know.
(And as for "Smell Yo Dick", there are at least a billion other recent popular songs that sound completely alike)
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)
And "Bombjack" rules: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eer6CSb2mOY
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)
Geir, my question was sincere -- do you have an opinion on Kid Icarus?
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)
I tried listening to it, but you know those game tunes have a tendency to stick in your ears after a while after playing the game. Probably a nice tune, but in the case of computer games, a really sucky and old-fashioned sound tended to put me off anwyay. :)
And by 1986, Rob Hubbard, Martin Galway and Ben Daglish had revolutionized 64 music to such an extent that Nintendo music sounded dated by comparision
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)
what authors do you like to read?
― laxalt, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)
beecher stowe?
― ian, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)
oh snap
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 23:06 (eighteen years ago)
Geir, which of these dances is the most poular in Norwayland: The Twist, The Macarena or The Mashed Potato? If you were to invent a dance, how would it go?
― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)
Geir, which of these dances is the most poular in Norwayland: The Twist, The Macarena or The Mashed Potato?
No idea, but The Macarena is surely the most unpopular. :)
If you were to invent a dance, how would it go?
Sitting in a chair in front of the stereo in a dark room without moving, listening to music at a moderate loud volume and taking in all of the details of the music while still not moving a muscle. Called the "listening dance" or the "hi-fi-dance". Music: Preferrably prog, but also works with slightly sophisticated pop or even classical music.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)
And "Smell Yo Dick"
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)
xpost I thought the moves may be something like that. Have you ever 'cut a rug' when accidentally visiting a club or a wedding reception for example?
― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)
There´s a new sensation A fabulous creation A danceable solution To teenage revolution Do the Hongro When you feel love It´s the new way That´s why we say Do the Hongro Do it on the tables Quaglino´s place or mabel´s Slow and gentle Sentimental All styles served here Louis seize he prefer Laissez-faire le strand Tired of the tango Fed up with fandango Dance on moonbeams Slide on rainbows In furs or blue jeans You know what I mean Do the Hong
Had your fill of quadrilles The madison and cheap thrills Bored with the beguine The samba isn´t your scene They´re playing our tune By the pale moon We´re incognito Down the lido And we like the strand Arabs at oasis Eskimos and chinese If you feel blue Look through who´s who See la goulue And nijinsky Do the strandsky Weary of the waltz And mashed potato schmaltz Rhododendron Is a nice flower Evergreen It lasts forever But it can´t beat Hongro The sphynx and mona lisa Lolita and guernica Did the Hong
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)
Geir, are you a fan of the more melodic strains of symphonic and folk black metal from your fine country?
― moley, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)
Sitting in a chair in front of the stereo in a dark room without moving, listening to music at a moderate loud volume and taking in all of the details of the music while still not moving a muscle. Called the "listening dance" or the "hi-fi-dance".
SUP?
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― sanskrit, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 02:29 (eighteen years ago)
Geirs of War
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)
Metal Geir Solid
― filthy dylan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 04:28 (eighteen years ago)
What books do you like to read?
― laxalt, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 05:33 (eighteen years ago)
How do you feel about Koji Kondo?
― gigabytepicnic, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 07:41 (eighteen years ago)
No. I cannot stand music that features screaming or grinding vocals.
Books about music, I guess. :) I don't read a lot of fiction really.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)
What are your favorite books about music?
― stephen, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)
Surely you can cite some non-music books that mean a lot to you, mr Hongro!
― Veronica Moser, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)
Is there anything specific about music that you enjoy that you don't in other arts?
― filthy dylan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)
You don't like it when they scream and shout, when they work it on out?
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)
Who are your favorite rhythm section?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)
The thread that never gets old.
Sitting in a chair in front of the stereo in a dark room without moving, listening to music at a moderate loud volume and taking in all of the details of the music while still not moving a muscle. Called the "listening dance" or the "hi-fi-dance". Music: Preferrably prog classic rock, but also works with slightly sophisticated pop singer-songwriters or even classical heavy metal music.
This was me...when I was a bored 15-year-old.
― JN$OT, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
How do you pronounce "Geir Hongro"?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)