Black Metal!

I do agree with Phil on Manny P though

That;s a bit besides the point, it's pretty hard to find a oldschool metalhead from the US who will not rep for Kiss either.

I guess what unifies all those bands is that they were all considered lightweight bands for kids at the time by older metalheads, but they do function as gateway bands so the 14 year olds who rocked Pantera t-shirts in jr high will still somewhat fondly look back on them later when they're established musicians, critics, etc so every generation later rehabilitates the crap bands of their youth while trashing the new breed of mallcore. That doesn't work the same way with bands that had an underground following turning into crap (Cold Lake etc) tho.

late to the party, but c'mon, I think you'd be hard-pressed to even name a classic metal band that was mostly about "screaming catharsis." certainly not black sabbath. that's a more modern definition, if anything.

and, to me, iron maiden is metal and those guys are all about nerdy history lessons and galloping basslines.

trying to think of some of the crap stuff i listened to as a teen that i overrate now cuzza nostalgia. frank chickens? still love kissing the pink way too much. but not when they became ktp! (though to be honest i don't think i ever listened to the ktp album. i'd probably love it!)

i've always had such great taste. that's the problem.

did your folks agree on that?

mmmmm, no. they ignored it all completely.

Did dan like the more extreme metal stuff you were into?

what album got everyone into black metal then? Weakling did it for me.

first 'not-quite' black metal album I got was Cradle of Filth's Cruelty and the Beast. From there, I graduated to Emperor's IX Equilibrium, and then, finally Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk, which I fell in love with.

I didn't get into raw BM until I first listened to Mayhem though.

"what album got everyone into black metal then?"

In The Nightside and then A Blaze In The Northern Sky.

mmmmm In the Nightside Eclipse. I still have this memory of driving earlier than usual to school when the sun was rising, with that album playing in the background. was a perfect fit.

prob battles in the north

I much prefer Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk than Nightside.

Still the Emperor "best of" has literally all their best tracks on there. I rarely listen to anything else by them.

I heard Under the Sign of the Black Mark when I was younger, but black metal never caught my ear until much later, and the album was Transilvanian Hunger, so I guess that one.

cad -- awesome pick, not as many people in my circle talk about Battles in the North but I love that one.

also still wish I could find my copy of At the Heart of Winter, prolly just gonna d/l it.

also early 'black metal' like the first few Bathory albums still gives me nerd boners....no pretense, just RAWK

Under The Sign Of The Black Mark is brilliant too.

I can't remember what first got me into BM. A lot fo my friends played me stuff, but I was only peripherally aware of what bands were playing. Maybe Bal Sagoth??

Venom for me.

i'm young—pretty sure the first thing i heard and really liked was xasthur's subliminal genocide. i picked it up for the MBV comparisons... i know, i know... ~sigh~

The gateway for me was Sunn 0)))'s "Black One", which lead me to Nachtmystium's "Insinct:Decay" and then I fell in love with Transylvanian Hunger.

I guess I was pretty late to the party. Listened to lots of Celtic Frost and Venom in the late 80s, though.

Burzum "Filosofem" for me. A friend's band got signed to Misanthropy, the label that licensed Burzum for the US. She had extra copies of releases from the label and gave me one. I was hooked.

Lol I hated and slogged off Venom when I first heard them, now I love and own both Welcome to Hell and Black Metal

prob either burzum's filosofem, emperor's nightside eclipse, or darkthrone's transilvanian hunger.

"I am the black wizards" was prob the first track that clicked for me in a major way.

Darkthrone was huge in appreciating raw BM for me cuz of how they blended the raw, poorly recorded atmosphere with severely catchy riffs. Nothing impenetrable like other raw BM.

Transylvanian Hunger was my first I think, love how trance inducing it is. Still think my fav is "Blaze" tho

yeah, first time I heard transilvanian hunger, I was like, "huh? this is weird. every track sounds almost identical."

after a couple plays it was more like, "YES. every track sounds almost identical!"

The gateway for me was Sunn 0)))'s "Black One"

i heard this in 2005 or whenever it came out, loved it—didn't think of it as black metal though, and it still took me a couple years to really dip my toes in

I think that album was a sorta gateway for a LOT of people though even though it is not BM. It got a helluva lot of people checking out BM and southern lord had a phase of putting out black metal albums.

http://fresh.snowboardermag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/venom_black.jpg

and

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/66/Bathory_album.jpg

For I am old.

i never actually heard bathory in the 80's. or i don't remember it if i did. liked venom and celtic frost back then. a friend of mine made me a tape in the early 90's of emperor and fleurety and ulver and i liked it all a whole lot. went out and bought what i could find in philly. which wasn't much at the time.

Bathory in the 80s is more than worth it

i bought transilvanian hunger in like 1997 or 1998. i was late to darkthrone. there was actually this cd store on chestnut street in philly back then that had a second floor and everything on the 2nd floor was budget stuff and they had TONS of metal. lots of cool labels too. i was excited about that. went there from the late 90's until 2000 or so and bought tons of stuff. everything was five bucks or less. got into anata and lots of other bands because of that.

oh yeah no i love that bathory stuff now, but i wasn't hearing it back then.

i would buy a bathory cd box-set. if i saw one.

Oh gotcha.

i think the 1st bathory song i ever heard was a video on Raw Power a 3am metal show on ITV in the 90s (Previously it was called The Power Hour then it later became Noisy Mothers) and it was kinda cheesy viking stuff. Didn't hear the earlier stuff for another decade.

Hey Scott:

In Memory of Quorthon is a box set of three audio CDs and one DVD with remastered material from Bathory, Quorthon's solo efforts, and the Jennie Tebler project.

The track list was selected by "Boss" Forsberg. The album cover was drawn by Kristian Wåhlin and was meant to be the artwork for Bathory's last album which was never released.[1] All songs were remastered. A poster of Quorthon breathing fire taken from the 1987 Session in London's Railway Bridge of London was included. Text written by Quorthon personally appears in italics. Besides lyrics, the book features Bathory’s history, discography, background on the first recordings – with titles, years, studios, covers – and even a couple of photographs. Nearly all of this is from Quorthon’s and Boss's own private archives. The fourth disc is a DVD containing the 11-minute video for “One Rode to Asa Bay”, as well as the MTV interview Quorthon did in London for the release of Hammerheart.

http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/1/6/2/116209.gif

Track listing

Disc 1

Bathory – "Song to Hall Up High" (from Hammerheart)
Bathory – "Oden's Ride Over Nordland" (from Blood Fire Death)
Bathory – "Twilight of the Gods" (from Twilight of the Gods)
Bathory – "Foreverdark Woods" (from Nordland I)
Bathory – "A Fine Day to Die" (from Blood Fire Death)
Bathory – "The Woodwoman" (from Blood on Ice)
Quorthon – "I've Had it Coming my Way" (from Purity of Essence)
Bathory – "Armageddon" (from Bathory)
Bathory – "Born to Die" (from Octagon)
Quorthon – "God Save the Queen" (Sex Pistols cover)
Bathory – "The Sword" (from Blood on Ice)
Bathory – "For All Those Who Died" (from Blood Fire Death)
Bathory – "Call from the Grave" (from Under the Sign of the Black Mark)
Bathory – "Born for Burning" (from The Return of the Darkness and Evil)
Quorthon – "Boy" (from Album)

Disc 2

Bathory – "One Rode to Asa Bay" (from Hammerheart)
Bathory – "The Lake" (from Blood on Ice)
Bathory – "The Land" (from Nordland II)
Bathory – "Raise the Dead" (from Bathory)
Bathory – "War Pigs" (Black Sabbath cover)
Bathory – "Enter the Eternal Fire" (from Under the Sign of the Black Mark)
Bathory – "Blood Fire Death" (from Blood Fire Death)
Bathory – "Ring of Gold" (from Nordland I)
Bathory – "War Machine" (from Requiem)
Bathory – "War" (from Bathory)
Bathory – "Ace of Spades" (Motörhead cover)
Bathory – "Death and Resurrection of a Northern Son" (from Nordland II)
Bathory – "The Ravens" (from Blood on Ice)

Disc 3

Bathory – "The Wheel of Sun" (from Nordland II)
Bathory – "Apocalypse" (from Requiem)
Bathory – "Black Diamond" (KISS cover)
Bathory – "Woman of Dark Desires" (from Under the Sign of the Black Mark)
Bathory – "Destroyer of Worlds" (from Destroyer of Worlds)
Bathory – "Sea Wolf" (from Nordland II)
Bathory – "Deuce" (KISS cover, from Octagon)
Bathory – "The Return of Darkness and Evil" (from The Return of the Darkness and Evil)
Bathory – "Day of Wrath" (from Destroyer of Worlds)
Quorthon – "I'm Only Sleeping" (The Beatles cover)
Bathory – "Ode" (from Destroyer of Worlds)
Bathory – "Hammerheart" (from Twilight of the Gods)
Bathory – "Heimfard" (from Nordland I)
Bathory – "Outro"
Quorthon – "You Just Got to Live" (from Purity of Essence)
Jennie Tebler – "Silverwing" (by Jennie Tebler)
Jennie Tebler – "Song to Hall Up High" (by Jennie Tebler)

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This sold out quickly however when I hooked Blackmark up with Relapse distro when I worked there, they pressed up a bunch more for the US Market. Relapse doesn't have them anymore but I am sure someone does and therefore you can probably get it for less than the $100 they want on Amazon if you look around.

it was kinda cheesy viking stuff

grrrr

Yea don't hate on Viking-era Bathory

Im just saying the video i saw back then was cheesy and most definitely not black metal. I didn't say it was Cold Lake cheesy.

Is this the video in question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpc-831GPs

Because I think it's a total classic.

If only Quorthon were alive to defend himself ;_;

Im not sure, we're talking seeing a video in 92/93, cant remember.

Yeah, Black One wasn't black metal, but there was the Immortal cover, and Malefic singing his vocal parts from a closed coffin. I guess it just made me want to explore.

For reasons unexplained, I stopped listening to metal in the early 90s, and explored lots of other genres. Unfortunately I missed out on tons of good stuff. I was busy listening to early Sub-Pop grunge, Am Rep and Touch & Go stuff for most of the 90s.

Bathory is pretty unfuckwithable. I like the viking era just as much as the filthy black stuff.

I stopped listening to metal in the early 90s, and explored lots of other genres. Unfortunately I missed out on tons of good stuff. I was busy listening to early Sub-Pop grunge, Am Rep and Touch & Go stuff for most of the 90s.

I didn't explore BM etc, the metal i was into was industrial and yeah obv grunge alt/indie rock and stuff like you said but I still bought metal mags and was listening stoner then doom along with discovering funk,jazz,prog,punk,techno/idm, older stuff 80s indie rock and pretty much everything i could get my hands on. With napster/audiogalaxy/soulseek not only did I discover more of those bands in those genres I got into heavier and more experimental stuff.

I listened to bathory and celtic frost in the 80s but for some reason I just thought of them as metal bands, never really pegged them as "black metal" or part of some movement... seems kinda revisionist to me but I dunno, I wasn't paying that close attention

was eh on most black metal from the 90s until I heard de mysteriis dom sathanas