Black Metal!

what was Eibon?

playing mob rules right now and if you don't like mob rules you don't like metal.

Eibon was the black metal supergroup with Fenriz and a couple of other dudes.

I don't think they actually released anything.

phil put out fenriz's old stoner metal project on his label. wasn't that great.

the thing you can do tho is listen to that stuff, enjoy it, and still call the people who rep for it poseurs & see 'em get real sanctimonious about how they'd rather be a poseur than narrow-minded - it's win/win

― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:39 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

tru, those williamsburg in the throne room joeks go a long way

not outside the USA they dont

sorry you guys are gonna have to make up your own joeks

I dont think BM has made Camden. Maybe there's going to be a BM scene in the west end of Glagow - cardigan wearers with corpsepaint.

which wouldn't be very metal but certainly terrifying

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It was not uncommon to find people who liked Nirvana,Pantera,Metallica ,sepultura , alice in chains , soundgarden and Darkthrone/burzum.

OTM- this was me circa 1992 (I'm British BTW).

I still like Pantera in small doses, "Primal Concrete Sledge" is funny and rocks hard. Though this might be retrospectively coloured, in the early 90s I thought there was something disagreeable about Anselmo's politics- all that Nietzschian will to power (metal) stuff, and the fixation on violence (like the, if true, messed up story about the making of the cover of Vulgar Display of Power. Even without subsequently finding out he was a racist, he never seemed the kind of metal guy my 14 year old self would have liked to hang out with, in contrast to Dimebag and his brother.

Having said this, I can (to some extent) separate the music from the politics. Bowie gave a Nazi salute- that doesn't stop me from thinking his 70s material is unassailable, and has been pointed out upthread there are plenty of other examples you can look to.

what was the story of the cover?

The urban legend was that the model was a fan who was paid $10 for each punch he took, and that Anselmo wound up hitting him over 30 times before the perfect image was achieved. But that story is bullshit; in a recent issue of Revolver, they did an exhaustive investigation of the whole thing (which I didn't read) and debunked it.

Ugh, glad it's not true. Sadly some neanderthals will think it's completely awesome dude and true.

Lots of stupid people believe lots of stupid shit (e.g. religion).

(and varg)

It was not uncommon to find people who liked Nirvana,Pantera,Metallica ,sepultura , alice in chains , soundgarden and Darkthrone/burzum.

OTM- this was me circa 1992 (I'm British BTW).

You read Kerrang then?

oh and is San te back from his wine tasting yet?

The reason everyone believed the Pantera story is cuz the band kept telling it

Xpost HAHAH0HAAHHAAH

did you drink out of viking skulls? Did you wear metal gear?

Pantera is a point on the line that runs from Kiss, Warrant, Bon Jovi through to Korn, Slipknot and Brokencyde.

I bow to Siegbran in all things metal but I gotta take issue with you here friend. Find me one member of any major US death metal band who will not rep for at least one Pantera album and I will be surprised. U.S. death metal dudes generally speak with reserved respect of Pantera tho at the point of Vulgar Display they get contentious, but as of '01 they were still touring with Morbid Angel, who were fresh off Gateways which is a solid record imo. Do you kick Celtic Frost out of the lineage for Cold Lake?

Sadly some neanderthals will think it's completely awesome dude and true.

I graduated with dual honors in classical studies & English literature and I still think it's completely awesome dude and true

I do agree with Phil on Manny P though

That;s a bit besides the point, it's pretty hard to find a oldschool metalhead from the US who will not rep for Kiss either.

I guess what unifies all those bands is that they were all considered lightweight bands for kids at the time by older metalheads, but they do function as gateway bands so the 14 year olds who rocked Pantera t-shirts in jr high will still somewhat fondly look back on them later when they're established musicians, critics, etc so every generation later rehabilitates the crap bands of their youth while trashing the new breed of mallcore. That doesn't work the same way with bands that had an underground following turning into crap (Cold Lake etc) tho.

late to the party, but c'mon, I think you'd be hard-pressed to even name a classic metal band that was mostly about "screaming catharsis." certainly not black sabbath. that's a more modern definition, if anything.

and, to me, iron maiden is metal and those guys are all about nerdy history lessons and galloping basslines.

trying to think of some of the crap stuff i listened to as a teen that i overrate now cuzza nostalgia. frank chickens? still love kissing the pink way too much. but not when they became ktp! (though to be honest i don't think i ever listened to the ktp album. i'd probably love it!)

i've always had such great taste. that's the problem.

did your folks agree on that?

mmmmm, no. they ignored it all completely.

Did dan like the more extreme metal stuff you were into?

what album got everyone into black metal then? Weakling did it for me.

first 'not-quite' black metal album I got was Cradle of Filth's Cruelty and the Beast. From there, I graduated to Emperor's IX Equilibrium, and then, finally Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk, which I fell in love with.

I didn't get into raw BM until I first listened to Mayhem though.

"what album got everyone into black metal then?"

In The Nightside and then A Blaze In The Northern Sky.

mmmmm In the Nightside Eclipse. I still have this memory of driving earlier than usual to school when the sun was rising, with that album playing in the background. was a perfect fit.

prob battles in the north

I much prefer Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk than Nightside.

Still the Emperor "best of" has literally all their best tracks on there. I rarely listen to anything else by them.

I heard Under the Sign of the Black Mark when I was younger, but black metal never caught my ear until much later, and the album was Transilvanian Hunger, so I guess that one.

cad -- awesome pick, not as many people in my circle talk about Battles in the North but I love that one.

also still wish I could find my copy of At the Heart of Winter, prolly just gonna d/l it.

also early 'black metal' like the first few Bathory albums still gives me nerd boners....no pretense, just RAWK

Under The Sign Of The Black Mark is brilliant too.

I can't remember what first got me into BM. A lot fo my friends played me stuff, but I was only peripherally aware of what bands were playing. Maybe Bal Sagoth??

Venom for me.

i'm young—pretty sure the first thing i heard and really liked was xasthur's subliminal genocide. i picked it up for the MBV comparisons... i know, i know... ~sigh~

The gateway for me was Sunn 0)))'s "Black One", which lead me to Nachtmystium's "Insinct:Decay" and then I fell in love with Transylvanian Hunger.

I guess I was pretty late to the party. Listened to lots of Celtic Frost and Venom in the late 80s, though.

Burzum "Filosofem" for me. A friend's band got signed to Misanthropy, the label that licensed Burzum for the US. She had extra copies of releases from the label and gave me one. I was hooked.

Lol I hated and slogged off Venom when I first heard them, now I love and own both Welcome to Hell and Black Metal

prob either burzum's filosofem, emperor's nightside eclipse, or darkthrone's transilvanian hunger.

"I am the black wizards" was prob the first track that clicked for me in a major way.

Darkthrone was huge in appreciating raw BM for me cuz of how they blended the raw, poorly recorded atmosphere with severely catchy riffs. Nothing impenetrable like other raw BM.

Transylvanian Hunger was my first I think, love how trance inducing it is. Still think my fav is "Blaze" tho