eh its seems self evident and uncontroversial that music fandom particularly the hardcore variety has a large aspect of consumerism, for those interested in rap as a discrete thingy is seems somewhat more weighted toward that end of the spectrum as far as understanding gathering and sharing all the pieces rather than gravitating toward more abstract ideals like aesthetics emotion or w/e - odd future if you were to design something to appeal to those tendencies w/todays distribution networks are comically perfect - if they had more sophisticated musical ability as far as songwriting/hooks itd be a good base to build a serious irl career - they also have the no girls will ever like them problem holding them back
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:40 (fifteen years ago)
oh come on
― on some outer space shit (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:49 (fifteen years ago)
i know plenty of girls who would be into this (if they're not already)
maybe one or two who are also into free jaze noise and dj battles
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:54 (fifteen years ago)
and guitar solos
pretty sure there are some musicians that have gotten rich out of appealing almost purely to dudes
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
true, its just tough proposition
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:59 (fifteen years ago)
i'm pretty sure kanye's fanbase is like 5% female at this point
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:05 (fifteen years ago)
xp well tyler don't have the brute sex appeal of a violent j, that's for surespeaking of which, these guys HAVE to be doing the gathering of the juggalos this year, right?
― Let the Light Come in From the Dark, Superman (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
― J0rdan S., Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:05 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark
totally wrong dude
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
tyler says he hates ICP, so i doubt it xp
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
xp really? hmm
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
i showed my girlfriend the tyler video and she was like "why don't you make beats like that?"
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
"why don't you cook me dinner like tyler does?"
― teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
i would think if they hate ICP even more reason to go and do it and just fuck shit upplus the money HAS to be good
― Let the Light Come in From the Dark, Superman (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
pretty sure most gathering performers dont like icp
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
they also have the no girls will ever like them problem holding them back
I don't get this conclusion at all
― never meant to heart anyone (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
eh chix usually arent that into agressive tuneless music, maybe youve never noticed because youre not a girl
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:18 (fifteen years ago)
as. far. as. i. know.
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:19 (fifteen years ago)
― i got a thing for swag cru and i can't let go (tpp), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:22 (fifteen years ago)
if u seriously wanna argue that girls only like pretty non-threatening music with nice melodies please take it out of the OF thread
― i got a thing for swag cru and i can't let go (tpp), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
are those the only two types of music, thank you for that info
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
These guys are great imo
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:29 (fifteen years ago)
it's not even like OF are that extreme in terms of the rap hyper-masculinity spectrum. i know quite a few girls who dig OF but not a single girl who likes waka for instance. tyler's album is completely emo and imo demonstrates 'sophisticated musical ability'. yeah they are a rap band so they will have more male fans at this point but a successful crossover and who knows? would you have said eminem had the 'no girls will ever like him' problem at the start of his career?
― i got a thing for swag cru and i can't let go (tpp), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
i guess what i'm trying to say is that in my world of female people tyler, the creator is fairly popular
― i got a thing for swag cru and i can't let go (tpp), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:36 (fifteen years ago)
this was eminems 1st single
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNPnbI1arSE
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:36 (fifteen years ago)
oh right girl music ok
― i got a thing for swag cru and i can't let go (tpp), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:38 (fifteen years ago)
sorry I just don't accept this dichotomy. the aggressive thing okay maybe. tuneless? depends how you define tuneless. cuz evidently there are loads of women who like tuneless top 40 r&b garbage
― never meant to heart anyone (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:39 (fifteen years ago)
There were a fair number of girls at the DC show ON VALENTINE'S DAY
― I DIED, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:39 (fifteen years ago)
otoh I am married to a woman who's favorite band is AC/DC, also loves Rush, Kool Keith, Ice Cube, and improv/noise music so what do I know
― never meant to heart anyone (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
my world of female people
I lol'd
feminist women love eminem
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
― I DIED, Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:39 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
%?
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:41 (fifteen years ago)
there are loads of girls who love stuff like KORN, ffs.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
thank u for engaging so fully max argh
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
this is a stupid discussion
― ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
one of the main reasons i like tyler so much is the emotional breadth on 'bastard' and i'm not saying that should necessarily make him popular with the ladies but if you've actually listened to his music i don't see why you'd label him 'aggressive' over anything else.
― i got a thing for swag cru and i can't let go (tpp), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
^^^
― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
i still think it's hilarious that j0rdan thinks Kanye's fanbase is 5% female. even in a sausage party like Pazz & Jop the MBDTF votership appears to be at least 10% female.
― some dude, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:47 (fifteen years ago)
discussing odd future wolf gang kill them all is stupid, totally
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:48 (fifteen years ago)
how many women have posted on the destroyer thread
gah why am I perpetuating this conversation
― it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:49 (fifteen years ago)
― ice cr?m, Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:41 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest
Somewhere around 10%, which isn't far off the average for live non-mainstream hip hop shows.
― I DIED, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:50 (fifteen years ago)
― some dude, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:50 (fifteen years ago)
― some dude, Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
i was exaggerating -- i do think his fanbase is heavily male & in an increasing fashion
― teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:51 (fifteen years ago)
― ice cr?m, Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:45 PM (3 minutes ago)
thank u for making blanket observations about women's musical tastes when even an aspie shut in nerd like me can at least see that there are loud, "aggressive" acts out there with huge female fan bases. marilyn manson? korn? dumb, loud drum and bass like pendulum et al?
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:53 (fifteen years ago)
― I DIED, Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:50 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
so a slight sausage fest by the standards of a notoriously sausage festival sub genre, I REST MY CASE!
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:53 (fifteen years ago)
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:53 PM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
point is i mentioned two musical qualities in combination you took one then cherry picked some bands that still have predominantly male fanbases, but w/e i have already RESTED MY CASE!
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:58 (fifteen years ago)
dude, stop while you're behind
― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:59 (fifteen years ago)
The females who were at the show who weren't already familiar with them thought they were "adorable", I think most women perceive Chris Brown as a lot more threatening than OFWGKTA.
ps they did not rape anyone at the show
― I DIED, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it sad you dont even know what the race is smh solemnly
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:03 (fifteen years ago)