i love the dude but hes MINE and i dont want to be that asshole saying 'i was into peter gabriel before everyone else was'
― max, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 04:24 (sixteen years ago) link
...how old are you again?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 04:25 (sixteen years ago) link
"everyone" = "everyone ages 18 - 25"
― max, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Take a stand.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link
LCD Soundsystem should totally go for a Sledgehammer/Big Time on album number three
-- da croupier, Monday, January 28, 2008 3:43 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
QFT
― gr8080, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 04:50 (sixteen years ago) link
but yeah i would def listen to james murphy doing a gabriel record
― max, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 04:52 (sixteen years ago) link
apparently the other dudes are not so into the phish, shocker
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 05:48 (sixteen years ago) link
To backtrack up the thread, Arctic Monkeys comparisons are INSANE. They sound nothing alike and will be nowhere near as big. And have been nowhere near as hyped. Ridiculous. I think they're much better (at the moment) too.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 08:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Also someone up top says they sounded really "thin" compared to Animal Collective (I think in a live context) - well I literally can't listen to Animal Collective. Their records give me a headache inside seconds, but from abstracted descriptions I ought to enjoy them. It's just that no one ever says "yeah and their records sound fucking horrible and hurt your head" after spiel about Beach Boys and drums and masks and shouting and campfires and techno and loops and melodies.
After years - might be five or six, might be ten or twelve (Oasis kick-starting the aesthetic for ambitious guitar bands to be BIG and LOUD and INDISTINCT) - of huge, messy, maximalist bands, Vampire Weekend do sound kind of quietly radical. Same as Guillemots did (to me at least) a couple of years ago. Refreshing. Musical.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link
How are the names similar?!
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link
their name makes me think of 'werewolf bar mitzvah', every time.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Their name makes me think of a Projekt fan's spring break.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link
-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
yeah me too.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
At the risk of coming over all Geir (ew, what a thought) Vampire Weekend score over Animal Collective by virtue of having discernible tunes.
Animal Collective and Guillemots are guilt indie for Wire readers.
Still it is refreshing that after banging on in my blogs for the last two years about Apostle of Hustle and other Canadian worthies fusing indie and world music that someone outside Canada's latched onto the idea.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link
somebody finally listened!
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Blame Canada
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link
WTF IS UP W/THE CHANGE SITUATION IN CANADA $2 COINS WTF IM STARTING A THREAD AS SOOOOO N AS I GET HOME THIS IS AN OUTRAGE WHY IS NO ONE STORMING THE CAPITOL !!!?1!!!????/
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Are you saying Apostle of Hustle and company came up with the idea of fusing indie and world music? I guess it depends on how you define "indie."
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I was cheered that MattDC is into this, but was all wtf at his finding 'irish' influences. Then I realized maybe he means the pre-chorus keys in 'A-Punk'? They sound Zep-ripped to me.
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I assumed he was thinking of the violin at the start of "Bryn," actually.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, I suppose. I think that comes out of compositional study.
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Bryn's an Irish name, isn't it?
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Welsh.
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.higheredjobs.com/images/ProfileLogos/ProfileImg_353_020013.gif
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I think that comes out of compositional study.
is this code for "classical music"?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
well, that's where you start when you study composition, but it's not necessarily where you end, especially at columbia
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
"Composition" is a good way to refer to contemporary classical without using that oxymoronic term.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Has anyone heard the House Of Blondes album? Mastered by the same people. Similar NYC literate indie pop. Very interesting.
This is great though. Just so... enjoyable.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link
They remind me a little of Spoon.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link
vampire weekend = trying to fuck a week after you had your balls cut off.
I think people in the NYC area are reasonable in hating them. If you know how things work here, you know a band like VKWW shooting to the tops out of nowhere usually means they had some ... assistance.(ala the STrokes). Doesn't put their merit in question necessarily, but a little resentment is natural.
― burt_stanton, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
voice is on the case:
Vampire Weekend: Meant for Joy, Not Rage, By Mike Powell
Vampire Weekend: Please Ignore This Band
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link
what does that even mean?
vampire hands is like trying to mow the lawn with a english muffin a day after it rained!
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Re their outfits: Dockers and deck shoes are indeed questionable
That's from the latter article. Ugh, it depresses me that someone is criticizing them based on what they are wearing at a given moment.
― dell, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm no doubt obtuse, but I can't understand Shepherd's politics or rockcrit: VW's music, with its immaculate construction, its high-collared violin solos, its boy's-choir croonery, is claustrophobically ordered—the sound of a band lulling itself into complacency. Whether they are truly bluebloods is beside the point: They embrace and exalt the accoutrements of a privileged Mo' Money/No Problems lifestyle.
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY TECHNICAL COMPETENCE DENOTES AN EMBRACE OF REAGAN-ERA VALUES.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link
plus i hate all the sex-music metaphors ppl say all the time...like "the decemberists is like having a wank in the hall closet, the meters are like fucking in a cheap hotel room"...it just seems lazy anyway and the whole thing is just a way for dudes to suggest that they are real freaky cats in teh sack, check it out ladeez...
also a big fan of: "shit like this can't rock a dance floor" by dudes that sit in front of computers all the time and never go out.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link
i forgot to mention the last one is by julianne shepherd ftr
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link
We have blog house now, we don't need to go out.
xp
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link
powell predictably otm he might be my fave critic around right now
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:30 (sixteen years ago) link
people who think this music is joyful must have some easy-flow seratonin. it sounds like sonic drywall
― burt_stanton, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link
The last line of "One"—"Oh, your collegiate grief has left you dowdy in sweatshirts/Absolute horror!"—is as bitterly mocking as Evelyn Waugh or Whit Stillman
That line actually reminds of aFrenzal Rhomb lyric (Australians are prob the only people who know who they are)not Evelyn Waugh.
― W4LTER, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link
music is made for metaphor. but not vice versa. g'night.
xxp
― whatever, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link
more xxxxxxps than that actually. who cares.
― whatever, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry about yr mental problems, burt
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Ha, my biggest bone to pick with Dr. Shep would be the contention that they are out to whitewash African music, as opposed to the more plausible claim that they've just grabbed a pinch of it to flavor their indie/pop.
This seems symptomatic of that thing where, once someone's successful, it becomes tempting to read all their decisions as canny, cynical, and pitched at the context of the whole world. It seems a million times more plausible to me -- it seems flat-out self-evident to me -- that these were nerdy collegiate pop players who listened to some African pop and copped a couple rhythms and guitar sounds. Calling this a conscious whitewash of African music is like saying marinara sauce is an attempt to water down basil.
(xpost!! Burt is awesome on this thread, it's like there was a horrible car accident where Waldorf died and now all we have is a brain-injured Statler)
― nabisco, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link
hey johnny rotten defaced that pink floyd shirt for YOU, man. never forget.
― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:45 (sixteen years ago) link
P.S.: I have a pretty firm belief that this album will wind up about where the first Strokes one did -- i.e., some time will pass, it'll cease to seem like an issue to have strong opinions about, and people will circle around into some general agreement that these are catchy and likable ordinary songs, the kind that come on in bars and people smile and go "oh yeah, this was a nice tune," etc. It's interesting how their detractors object to their being branded the Amazing New Thing, whereas their supporters tend not to claim this -- the claim tends to be that they made a particularly solid/likable pop record.
What I'd be interested in hearing, detractor-wise, is an argument for why that sort of record doesn't belong in people's lives -- what's wrong with having that one pleasant, breezy, well-written indie record in your season's buying that you use the way I'm imagining people will use this one. (I mean, you can want something riskier and bloodier and with more fire, and even the legendary 12-CD-buyer has 11 other chances at that, but ... why get galled about this doing something else rather well? Unless your complaint is the suspicion that those other 11 will be the exact same thing, which doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of this one.)
― nabisco, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link
8) i do it becuz i care
― burt_stanton, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
lol
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Haw!
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link
nabisco otm re strokes comparison. it was the first thing i heard when i started listening.
― fukasaku tollbooth, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link