"Use other words please."

(I agree it's meaningless in the context people usually use it, ie "this person took lessons from someone")

I've always taken it to mean they were beaten as children when they tried to skip out on piano lessons

shakey mo cornier

what's wrong with corny? would you prefer hokey, cheesy...?

i take it to mean "this person plays the piano", or sometimes "this person plays the violin". and that they were forced to play etudes for a few months in fourth grade.

Jordan otm.

I wouldn't be surprised if that fool in Pomp-la-mousse wasn't "classically trained"

shakey mo cornier

what's wrong with corny? would you prefer hokey, cheesy...?

all these terms are used as shorthand to paper over some seriously unexamined preconceptions

corn-like

kornesque

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/Cornology.jpg/220px-Cornology.jpg

I like the word "corny." I think it was used by Lee Konitz to describe Lenny Tristano's behavior during the famous Jimmy Garrison metronome incident.

I almost thought you were kidding but Iguess there was such an incident. No mention of 'corny' though.

http://raggedshirts.com/images/home/oh-me-so-corny-me-so-horny-funny-tshirt.jpg

Ned, that might have been, um, in a private communication. You can see that he does like to use the word, though, by looking here: http://books.google.com/books?id=pc4CsgVHLw0C&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=lennie+tristano+metronome+konitz+corny&source=bl&ots=g49QKJ9lfr&sig=vGpw6dLBMTLxuAupbDylZlhyJeA&hl=en&ei=VwNbTZKCKciftgf85KSFDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=corny&f=false

"corny" is extremely useful imo

Haven't used it much myself but am about to start. More Lee K
http://dothemath.typepad.com/dtm/1-18-with-lee-k.html
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=1087

Not so much anymore, but for a while back in the day, Beatlesque was sure used a lot.

comparisons & references to:

Beach Boys/Brian Wilson
Nick Drake
John Fahey
Kraftwerk
etc.

Sorry, to elaborate on that ----

in the sense that if someone is playing music even tangentially related to psych-pop, it automatically sounds like Brian Wilson. or acoustic guitar playing is assumed to be Fahey inspired. singer/songwriter = Drake, electronic = Kraftwerk, etc.

That reminds me: this thread is missing "Joycean prose."

"douchenozzle"

My problem with corny is that I don't really know what it means. For a long time it basically translated as "uncool" and was used by the hip; so you had be-bop guys using the term to talk about some old-fashioned square swing band. But now it often seems to be used in re art that doesn't seem to have anything at all to do with cool, like, there is no imagined cooler alternative in some cases. I guess to me it references a time when ideas of cool were simpler so it has lost meaning.

And that is what I think of corny.

Joycean so otm. Joyce is really kind of inimitable.

"corny" is code for assholes who want to criticize something for being earnest and unironic, without wanting to actually come out and say that earnestness is bad

^corny

^asshole

http://www.theurbanelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/yawn-380x540.jpg

wmc otm

"corny" is code for assholes who want to criticize something for being earnest and unironic, without wanting to actually come out and say that earnestness is bad

lol

corny ----> dopey

I agree about "classically trained" but what's the alternative shorthand (in Blake's case) for someone who reached grade eight when he was 14 and talks in terms of Bach and counterpoint?

"Classically trained" is tough because it suggests some legitimacy over those who have had no training
Which is incredibly dumb.
There's a history of "20th Century Music" textbooks from 1980-2000 completely ignoring any pop musician who didn't have any classical training
Favouring, say, Brubeck over any other jazz musician, Zappa over any other rock musician

Two terms that I'd like to see disappear, or at least elaborated upon, as I think they are connotative placeholders for any actual criticism: "boring", "white"

earworm. why am i seeing this so often all of a sudden? it's a great word but i don't stop seeing it these days...

almost as if it's burrowing into your brain...

maybe because 'Musik von Harmonia' got reissued and people like the track 'Ohrwurm'

seems like that (musical) usage is really common in german, but it also means earwig!

"throbbing techno beats"

"guilt-free cheesiness of '80s rock"

"boutique" - fuck off! just fuck off!!

you fuck off: boutique is a very useful and normal word.

"Triumph". From musicals to albums to acting, Entertainment Weekly won't stop using it.

xpost but it's used to refer to everything now, particularly as an adjective - boutique fesitvals, boutique beers etc.. it doesn't mean ought really.

Hope the 'pop-up' tide is ebbing.

(Aside: item just received by the food mag I'm in at – 'Cupcake Eggs'. These are completely normal free-range eggs in a pink carton. Press release claims they are perfect for any 'fashionista' who loves making cupcakes.)

what is the cupcake thing about?

it just crossed my mind because I have been at many magazines that like using 'boutique' and 'pop-up', and I was horrified by it earlier in the week. I think it is one of the most redundant products I have ever seen a company attempt to foist upon the world.

haven't heard of "pop-up". "boutique" wasn't necessarily referring to journalism, just stuff in general. It was prompted by an advert that mentioned "boutique beers" which makes me irrationally angry for some reason.

Though it strikes me you might mean 'why are people fixated on cupcakes at the moment?' and I don't know the answer to that. Madmen retroism + rise of the hummingbird bakery?

ok "boutique beers" is kind of stupid but i think saying "boutique hotel" makes sense

re: cupcakes-- food trends be trending

boutique beers is at least more honest than "craft beers" which is basically an attempt to slap a more manly word on there to hide the fact that you're drinking fancy schmancy beer.