Radiohead - The King of Limbs

pretty sure rar compression creates smaller archive files?

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so why would anyone ever use a zip file?

this is a good time to ask the question "what is the difference between zip files and rar files?"

Rar compresses more than zip, I think the compression algorithm is just more complex or something

Hey guys, I wonder what this album will SOUND like?!

I think zip files are still used because WinZip doesn't do rars or something, I guess it's kind of the same reason why mp3 is still used even if other formats are technically 'better'

because rar sometimes confuses people and zip is better known/maybe more universal?

so why would anyone ever use a zip file?

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zip is open format, rar is proprietory.

Thought that 'waiting' artwork is more Meat Puppets circa 1985

I have learned so much this morning, thank you

man i wonder how many mbs the compressed archive of this album is going to be!

c'mon we can get five days more compression software discussion out of this before the album arrives.

radiohead's decision to make this a zip file now infuriates me btw

Well it's also easier to figure out what to do with a file ending in ".zip" ("hmm, maybe I need to... unzip it?") than what to do with a file ending in ".rar" ("I spent 10 minutes roaring into the microphone and I still can't get to my mp3s ;_;")

Please note that compression software data for the entire discography is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify hearing results, individual album compression data will need to be obtained from the band.

I don't even think Factory released a file compression program under a cat number.

Jordan - I would guess about 82 mbs compressed. I would guess they would use 320 kbps MP3s after the shitstorm that occured after In Rainbows was released as a 160 kbps MP3 (really a dumb decision, but whatever), I still think they probably have no idea what VBR is so I doubt they'd use it. I think 320 is like 2 mb = 1 minute, and my guess is this album will be 52 minutes long, so 104 mb compressed which should be like 82, but my math might be totally off.

104 mb compressed which should be like 82

That would be SERIOUSLY compressed. I'd guess that 104mb worth of data compressed by standard rar settings would result in something around 96-98mb.

compression of an already compressed mp3 will be more like 1%.

Yeah I guess you're probably right...so my guess would be 98 then. I don't really pay attention to compressed file sizes anymore since we live in a world of terabyte hard drives but it doesn't surprise me that I got it totally wrong.

i like to sidechain compress my files to the kick drum

zip feels like a nut, rar doesn't

I guess I'm always hoping that they won't sound grim
But it's my destiny to buy The King of Limbs

So, about the music...

I'm excited to see a tracklist. There have been a couple of new songs that Thom played over the last year (titles escape me right now) that didn't impress me at the time, but then again, I wasn't that impressed by "house of cards" when it was first played, and that ended up being one of my favorite songs on In Rainbows.

There were a few songs on Jonny's Norweigian Wood soundtrack that I thought could have been transformed into really cool rh songs.

Some of the tracks off that are basically the soundcheck arrangement of The Present Tense.

So... right now there's not really much material for us to get excited about right? Just a release date and some artwork. Hope to see at least some tracklist before the record comes out... more fun to speculate on actual songs... guessing which song got resurrected from the vault this time... (lift, big boots, true love waits...)... is 'these are my twisted words' included somewhere in there and is it a clue on the sort of sound we should expect?

Wonder will 'Twisted Words' be on it? Or hey maybe 'Lift' at last lol. this site seems to think it might know what's going on. dunno mind:
http://www.citizeninsane.eu/tkol.html

say this every time: hope they've got some 10-minute songs on that thing

I liked the concise but still unusual song structures of In Rainbows myself.

In Rainbows doesn't feel very memorable, surprising or important for me - if I only heard 15 Step, Reckoner and Jigsaw Falling Into Place again from it I'd be happy

Hail To The Thief otoh is immense and everything I ask of Radiohead and more - propah fucken widescreen that record

Ah well, you and me differ then. To some extent I actually like it so much because it doesn't sound like it's trying so hard to be 'important' as previous releases. Every song feels organic and unaffected.

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I love about half the tracks on HTTT, could definitely loose a couple though.

I disliked In Rainbows because I didn't think the songs worked well together. I enjoy those songs much more when I encounter them in isolation on Genius playlists than I do when I try to listen to the album; as a group, they don't really support or flow into each other very well, pretty much unlike every other Radiohed album aside from Pablo Honey.

can't tell if markers is being ironic or

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with the being excited for the record? not at all. i genuinely like radiohead

Again, I disagree. Works very well as piece IMO

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Wonder will 'Twisted Words' be on it? Or hey maybe 'Lift' at last lol. this site seems to think it might know what's going on. dunno mind:
http://www.citizeninsane.eu/tkol.html

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It's a pretty good documentation of unreleased songs that they've been playing around recently. Unless 'burn the witch' ended up being renamed for something on In Rainbows it will most definitely appear this time around... remember I've seen that one mentioned frequently. Only song in there I recognize is 'follow me around' which I don't think has any chance of being released at this point but anything could happen.

Thing is, Radiohead are a band who don't do 'organic and unaffected' so well - they're at their best when there's a sense of engaged and intelligent contrivance - they never 'jam', they control every detail masterfully and present every narrative as a hotwired, energy-packed and pristine mechanism whose internal logic has been endlessly considered and whose consequent Importance is implicit in its twists and turns. Other bands do 'organic and instinctive' really well, but Radiohead trying to do that left me cold - it felt like a compromise, with them watering down their surprising and arch narratives but not really coming up with a compelling method in its stead.

And yeah, In Rainbows as an album loses that sense of control and logic which all of Radiohead's other albums are bursting to display. 'Look at me, I'm fucken SEQUENCED'

Yep, they work better in a calculated, controlled environment, I reckon they wouldn't make a decent jam band.

in rainbows is their best album btw

I also liked In Rainbows more when I play it in random order; it made me briefly think my first impression of the album was wrong. (I had a similar thing happen with Pulp's This Is Hardcore which I loathed until I shuffled it; hearing it that way broke my preconceived notions and let me enjoy it in its original sequence. With In Rainbows, trying to play it in retail order reinforced how annoying I found the album as released.)

in rainbows is their best album btw
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I think this record will sound like dubstep.

oh god

haha I would be 100% behind that

I'd agree with Rainbows being their best too if you hadn't gathered already. It's miles off from being jammy, thank god, and still very highly controlled. But toning down the overwroughtness a few notches really suits the band, for me. There aren't so many instantly show-stopping moments as previously, but there's still masses of drama on the album, it's just subtler, less immediate and ultimately more satisfying.

well, a dubbier sound MIGHT work tbh - they'd have to do something interesting with it but it could be OK. my #1 album of last year was a 90's dude kinda getting his dubstep on so...

Hail To The Thief otoh is immense and everything I ask of Radiohead and more - propah fucken widescreen that record

lj knows where it's at