lady gaga 'fame-era' singles poll

i can never get into "Paparazzi," just a dreary melody and sad plopping drums, trying so hard to be dramatic or grand and ending up so banal

Automatically voted Bad Romance without even thinking about it, but probably should have been Paparazzi.

"speechless" obviously has a huge & great hook but i can't really give into the whole eltonness of it -- it's a bit too humorless, i think she kinda gets lost in it

x-posts to SD Really? idk I think it's pretty epic - I get really into singing it if it comes on in the car. I feel it, man. OK JK (sort of) but I do really love it.

speechless is SLIGHTLY too pigeonholed, but speechless is really a piece of work, and her voice on it is just o_O

i think the gaga line that makes me cringe MOST might be the princess diana reference in "dance in the dark" (in a song that i otherwise think is one of her strongest) - not so much because it's embarrassing wordplay or whatever but it's just such a weird, jarring misstep

"I left my head and my heart on the dance floor"

I only listened to the Fame Monster EP (8 songs) and love all of it. How enthusiastically should I go for the rest?

speechless is SLIGHTLY too pigeonholed, but speechless is really a piece of work, and her voice on it is just o_O

― i like lucy (surm), Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i pretty much agree w/ this but still fall slightly on the other side of the line

i've said it b4 but it's worth repeating . . . .

her voice on this part in speechless

And I know that it's complicated
but I'm a loser in love so baby
Raise a glass to mend all the broken hearts
of all my wrecked up friends

when the drums kind of drop out at the end

there are no words!

i find "speechless" genuinely moving in a kind of raddled sunset boulevard kind of way? it's an obvious trick but the james dean glossy eyes/johnnie walker eyes switch from verse 1 to verse 2 does work. also, i think some of her best live performances were of "speechless" - the piano in a glass box and then on fire, the surrealist piano on giraffe legs etc.

o wait it isn't even in the poll lol

it wasn't a single. in some ways i appreciate that she didn't pull a GGGB and mine the fame monster endlessly for singles, but...she really could have.

considering that there were 7-8 singles off a project that in many senses is considered one album, i don't know if the restraint your praising is actually there

i kinda consider the fame monster as a separate entity to the fame, despite the repackaging - it feels conceptually distinct enough, basically.

yeah but...i'm sure there'd be more than 3 singles if it was a completely distinct album and not an 8 song addendum to a preceding album

agree with some dude on "paparazzi"'s limpness

i would probably rank them

bad romance
telephone
poker face (after i went months hating on it lol)
alejandro
just dance
paparazzi
lovegame

i'm not actually sure how "eh eh" even goes

in fact it's almost exactly like GGGB in the sense that there were 4-5 singles off the initial album release, and then 3-4 more from the new songs added to the deluxe edition. (xpost)

had no idea the lyric in the first verse on alejandro that i could never make out was "she hides true love en su bolsillo" until i did it at karaoke

yeah but...i'm sure there'd be more than 3 singles if it was a completely distinct album and not an 8 song addendum to a preceding album

i'd call it a sequel, or "evil twin", or something, rather than an addendum. and it's more of an EP really (though the entire thing does show how meaningless these distinctions can be)

yeah but in terms of marketing and public perception and singles campaigns, the only difference between Fame Monster and Good Girl Gone Bad Reloaded is that one had 5 more new non-singles and one didn't, which doesn't make a huge difference in the bonus track-crazy world we live in.

Paparazzi: the sad-sack melody & delivery is the point and it is a point well-made.

but Bad Romance and Alejandro are right about equal with it

ok i'll rank these

Paparazzi
Alejandro
(gap)
Telephone
Poker Face
Bad Romance
Eh Eh (What Can I Say)
Just Dance
LoveGame

Underrated GaGa song from The Fame: Brown Eyes.

Bad Romance is titanic, so I voted for that...although I kind of adore most of these.

whats this about gaga has a new single out?

yeah when is it coming out!!??

and what about "you and I" -- have y'all heard that one? she premiered it on the today show or whatever like months ago? it's good! kind of like a sister to speechless

Alejandro

xp could you link it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muXg2qPFcKY

alejandro but only because it reminds me of ace o' base

alejandro but only because it reminds me of ace o' base

i think this is perhaps why i don't like it quite as much as i could/as others seem to

You and I is promising now, but it is going to be incredible with bombastic Speechless-style production.

Yes, I am excited for Born This Way.

:D :D

yea i really like you and i. takes me back to something, and sounds very her at the same time.

Has anything else leaked btw? Popdust seem to be covering it quite carefully, but I haven't been following as I should..

for whatever reason "Just Dance" has always been my favorite. I really love "Ehh Ehh" though, that was one of the first songs of hers I heard. I think The Fame is very patchy, whereas The Fame Monster is all solid tracks overall.

yeah echoing the "speechless" praise wrt her voice - probably her strongest vocal perfomance for me. i've also said this before but i love the little yell at the end there ("ohh boy WHY you so speechless). reminds me of courtney love almost

Speechless was my tune last year.....played it a lot during my depressed phase.

was the fame monster polled? every track should pick up at least a few votes

feel like it was (ilxor poll?) but i can't find it

so good i can't decide

just dance
bad romance

less good than those 2 & roughly in order

paparazzi
poker face
alejandro
telephone f/ beyonce

bad enough i don't care to distinguish or listen to them

eh eh (what can i say?) <-- lol
lovegame

bad romance just gives me a headache i liked the HALA dub of it tho

If a remix would qualify for the poll, I'd go with the Stuart Price remix of "Paparazzi" which is one guitar overdub away from being a long lost chillwave/NDW pop sensation. I like it more than the original.

"So Happy I Could Die" should have been a single release instead of "Alejandro" - tremendously great song that doesn't get namechecked that often.

Voted "Bad Romance" - about as unstoppable as an asteroid strike.

The very anonymity of "Just Dance" is attractive in retrospect -- like listening to Madonna's "Everybody" in 1986 and trying to divine how she became so massive.

She's still not as good a songwriter as Madonna was in 1985: she has a problem with either lame choruses or pedestrian verses. To me only "Alejandro" and "Just Dance" are complete in themselves.

You and I is promising now, but it is going to be incredible with bombastic Speechless-style production.

^^oh totally. unsurprisingly, i love it

happy in the club wit a bottle of red wine
stars in our eyes cuz we're havin a good time
eh-eh, eh-eh
so happy i could die
be ur best friend yea i'll love u forever
up in the clouds we'll be higher than ever
eh-eh, eh-eh
so happy i could die and it's alright

alejandro's tepid homage-ination is laughable in comparison to early madonna, dear lord

problem with the Fame Monster is I bought it during a very low point for me last year, which just so happens to correspond with a breakdown I had one night, so every time I put the cd on, those memories come back.

they should fade over time tho so it can be a fun album again and all.

"Bad Romance" it is. But many really strong ones.

As for "Speechless" it really should have been a single. Not least because, while great, her songs are all very stylistically related. With "Speechless" she might have had a completely different hit single, which would probably do her career good in terms of becoming long term.

Madonna would never have managed to stay on top for almost 30 years now if all of her subsequent 80s hit singles had sounded like "Holiday".

Technically that is a bridge, not a verse

Along with Hung Up and Hanging on the Telephone, this suggests that songs about people not answering the phone are, as a rule, brilliant.

"telephone" is just the best thing she's ever done.

Can actually get behind this.

Yeah "Telephone" is basically the only Gaga tune i'm likely actually to drop at a party.

"Telephone" is a useless mess imo, sounds like 2 stars desperate to work w/ each other settling for the first boring Rodney Jerkins idea they could agree on

Putting The Fame on for the first time in ages. It has to be one of the most front-loaded albums I own - there were six singles (counting international/promotional) and they're the first six tracks on the album! The upshot is that for that stretch, it's a shockingly consistent pop record. Yeah, "disco stick" is dumb (love the "hand on your - UNH!" bridge though) and "Beautiful Dirty Rich" isn't great, but still. As soon as you get past that point it's a lot more hit-and-miss. "Money Honey" is seriously short on ideas, and I just heard "Starstruck" and can't tell you how it goes. "Boys Boys Boys" is HUGE though!

Can't help but feel this album really got overshadowed by Fame Monster being so good, and by people really linking the first one narratively to the first couple singles before she really started winning tastemakers over. The lyrical themes aren't mind-blowing across the board but it's hooky, dance-able pop, in general feeling like there was a lot more effort-per-song than Born This Way - which just really needed another six months of percolation (and editing) IMO.

btw would have probably voted "Eh Eh" just because I am one of the song's few champions on ILX (or anywhere in the world?)

And wow... "Brown Eyes" is kind of crazy. Lost in the back of the album but it's the clearest indication of her allegiance to old-school art-pop, I mean the backing vocals are dead-on late-period Beatles filtered through "Karma Police." Is this a sound often deployed on pop records these days or something definitely Gaga?

I'm with you on "Eh Eh."

"telephone" is cool but idk it sorta feels like gaga doing a beyonce song

specifically a Beyonce song from Dangerously in Love ugh

i think it's cool that gaga worked with jerkins but it's kind of a forgettable moment in her discography (and i like it a lot more than stuff off her last album)

xxxpost re: "Eh, Eh" - I'm just such a sucker for the chorus and the way she says "Cherry cherry boom boom" - - - I know, intellectually, that it's a shoutout to her producer but I didn't know that when I first heard it and I've never been able to shake it as actually carrying content and doing emotional work for the song - - "cherry, cherry" as something light and summery and "boom-boom" as being that thing going up in smoke, but in a kind of cartoonish lighthearted way, appropriate to the song, which is about letting go of a relationship that was nice and has had no particular drama go down, but it's just time to move on.

I dunno, I dig it. I think I cited this somewhere in the big 2009 tracks poll when we were arguing about Taylor Swift and I was trying to make the case that somehow Gaga's songs felt like relationships I'd lived through or could basically understand, closer to ABBA's world than so many songs which seem to be about pretend people gleaned from watching too much TV. Not to say "Eh, Eh" is a major work - just that it rings true in dealing with a minor slice of life.

"Telephone" is HUGE though, I honestly did not realize there was anybody who didn't like that song!

It's boring

if you clipped B's part out of "Telephone" i would never think to compare it to any Beyonce song

^^^^

What on earth on Dangerously in Love does it even remotely sound like????

TS: "Telephone" vs "Paparazzi"

"Telephone"

What on earth on Dangerously in Love does it even remotely sound like????

ha – shorthand for singles-plus-filler

not that it much matters particularly but none of gaga's songs age well at all imo, i already find it difficult to talk about her in retrospect

we'll be wondering wtf that was all about in ten years time, probably on this same thread

"Telephone" is HUGE though, I honestly did not realize there was anybody who didn't like that song!

― Doctor Casino, Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:52 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

srsly. "Bad Romance" is her only single that compares. Also I would never guess it was Darkchild if I didn't otherwise know.