i know everybody else has already forgotten abt it but can we have one chillwave thread that isnt entirely ¡LOLwave! or w/e

i've been playing the hell out of the ducktails - killing the vibe youtube lately. going through a p chillwave phase of life these days; it's the depths of cold winter here & my girlfriend of 2 years & i broke up early jan & although i do feel the snow (now over a foot deep) is wondrous a lot of my life now consists of a vague grasping for better times. it's such a perfect song. going to go walk the dog & listen to the album now but i am prepared for dissapointment

ive been p into hips like cinderella's 'it's what ev' lately & was thinking abt that kinda of listless slacker good time vibe & how great indie pop was @ it. also that kinda of in-the-know deep cut lyric referencing seems almost outre now, or at least pointless. cue the smiths nods:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIwav0o7pQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crolMD6gWao

contrast that w/ stuff like the ssaliva track that runs down something and haunts the fuck out of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG2UZC7bBuI

play it over the middle of this for added o_O:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLVe1NkQA78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFqxT6SB4Qg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFMqWDsjEBE

Lot more acoustic rather than the usual synth-heavy stuff.

the theme song for the racoons is incredibly moving to me

yeah its so fantastic. the cartoon itself is p great & has this strange melancholy sense of place those looming pines idk

have you/anyone heard the puro instinct (née pearl harbor) album? on 1st listen its really wonderful gossamer & chill & limpid w/o being too soft & inconsequential but im not sure how much i trust my own instincts here

not heard the album but the 2 x puro EPs have been p good

were you the person who lynxd LUV GOON itt? that was the track that made me care about them. i guess i could just search...

on my 2nd listen through i think this record is kinda special? kinda want 2 start a thread 4 it but itll just be ilm being tedious probably but im impressed w/ how well they sustain the atmosphere & concealing haze over every song. esp stuff like elongating the words in 'california shakedown' to meaninglessness making it just another layer just added texture to the songs empty wishing well guitars

could have been me, i dig that trk a lot

well your loyalties are divided btw digital and vinyl
but im biding time til the cassingle revival

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npt2TtB1jW8

I buy new cassingles. The one I really like is Merchandisin'/Deluxe, though I usually feel ripped off.

i havent bought a cassette in awhile i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx8DRVesi30

i think this p dope - i like how trapped & cramped this is both formally & aesthetically it sorta plays on the woozy, inward intensity of new love

I don't really know from chillwave, but I think this video is cool!

http://vimeo.com/18532317

i don't really understand why star slinger is getting lumped in with chillwave/indie stuff, sounds like straight-up rap beats. like southern 808 beats + early '00s kanye/just blaze-style sampling.

haha the very obv recycling of the early kanye style vocal sample is the most chillwave thing abt that track, maybe! also just the haze and the repeated vocals the way it plays with structure and pace (not the right word um) its full of chillwave/related signifiers also:

the teams vs star slinger record that that track is from is on mexican summer their videos nod @ pil's radio 4 (linked itt by plax lol) the stick w/ the whole faded polaroid blurred landscape aesthetic &c &c

the label and video are just presentation/window dressing though. i like his tracks a lot, but i don't hear all that much haze or nostalgia factor. someone like matthewdavid has way more of that going on.

well if you buy into the idea of chillwave/whichhaus as a 'curatorial' genre than the 'window dressing' matters a lot. i mean obv part of how this stuff distingushes itself is by the way it connects the emotional content of the music w/ the aesthetic milieu it exists within & so although there arent strong sonic similarties btw every song itt they share a # of structural/formal/paramusical qualities: repetitions, reference, reflexivity &c &c

idk i mean the layering & echo & repetition in 'punch drink love' connects it p well to lots of other chillwave stuff even if the specific sonic palette mines different sources from say cool runnings

anyway

a) even if you 'don't buy' my assertion that teams vs star slinger belongs in the chillwave thread there isnt really anywhere else to put it
b) its a rad track imo & i regret sleeping on last year's EP
c) 'say please' is probably an even tighter jam but i lynx too much

a) even if you 'don't buy' my assertion that teams vs star slinger belongs in the chillwave thread there isnt really anywhere else to put it

what! instrumental beat- and sample-based music (or whatever you want to call it) a pretty big tent right now, and to me this could easily fit alongside gold panda and various brainfeeder stuff.

i meant 'put it' in the sense of a place to post videos & discuss the song on ilm i.e. ppl posting gold panda videos itt also

also lol @ 'lumped in' i guess, contra ilm, this is a place where mentioning a song along side 'chillwave/indie' is not some kind of aspersion but a compliment

even tho chillwave is mostly abt 80's vibes/samples, the 50's (60's?) sample in punch drunk love works just as well employed to the same effect. like, music played at a skating rink or at a thrift store lol

well part of what i think is rad is that theres the effect of the sample itself - the sound, the sentiment it conveys - but it also gets framed again by so obviously referencing kanye its kinda like what plax talks about where the intent isnt just to reference something 80s but also contextualize it & talk about its delivery &c &c. so instead of nodding at vhs or tv broadcasts theyre referencing early 00s hip hop, acknowledging the layers of media that surrond and influence things/creating distance e.g. "revelling in the gap between you & yr muse&content," or as plax indicates the "tools used in the production recreate what the artists are trying to do emotionally: the impossible task of trying to recreate the past from these faded fragments"

i mean i think its a really beautiful song but part of why it appeals to me aside from its formal qualities is the way it uses these techniques common to chillwave trax to also comment on the emotional purpose of the song, to recreate for the listener the emotional context theyre interested in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQZI0fZOQng

spring is happening

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missed u arouned here l8ly, hope london is treating you well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9P-pNUKga8&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWYRLnl1bLQ&feature=related

every moment repeats itself endlessly, but nothing lasts 4ever

i guess thats a sort of lazy binary, trading in pseudo profundity, but i still think that tension is really interesting, really complicating. in one of the lucksmith songs i linked he sings about "the days ive thrown away & the hours i am keeping" & i think thats an important dichotomy btw seeing time as endless & unvarying and yet feeling overwhelmed by impermanence, by the weight of time passing. again the present is this listless expanse like the sunny july day @ the water in that julia kent piece, but the past & future are lurking...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZT0wlH4y8k

so dope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YpiUL8KIfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzASdm7R4Y

idk i might have already posted this, not chillwave but that hasnt really bothered any of us so far so w/e. was thinking abt how this (cassette only lol) release by aybee kindof elides w/ the housier end of chillwave. The hiss of mystical new age meditation tapes found in a charity shop bin. was thinking about house and ambient house and music as a functional thing and how that intersects w/ these meditation tapes and how this functionality is in some way linked w/ the kind of invocation that chillwave seems haunted by. creating a space for (x). The connection/disconnection between mind and body, body and sign. A heartbeat rising from inside the machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toMnoLPGzOs

yeah this star slinger record is really fun

my mom's hanging w/toro y moi right now

chillwave momz

momz just like to chill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcUG_rXHeRM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P2Xdfx-EGc

every night/the same party

so jax howd your mom like toro y moi should i go to the show in a couple weeks?

also plax i emailed you abt some stuffffff

thinking abt the debacle that the weeknd thread turned into; tryna keep it chill w/o keeping it vacant searching for the throughlines in the stuff i dig, in the way things unfold themselves & sing of their secret selves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW0maCLTEqo

lamp i didnt get any emails abt stuffff

Chillwave the new balearic.

Who is that youtube above?

Gonna go meet my therapist for the first time.

ive been craving chillwaves pop moment lately, & missing the cautiously upbeat sentiments buried under tape hiss & delays that i was hearing in some of the trax from last year. idk here are five tracks ive really been listening too this month, sorry if thats sorta self-agrandizing

dale earnhardt jr. jr. - nothing but our love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm1p3jl-7b4
this is 'older' at least in the universe of five blog posts a day + unlimited mediafire d/lers but i keep coming back to this song - its central sentiment of 'dont try/dont try so hard/my love is easy' and the way the track squiggles and sways against the vocal harmonies makes me sad but i like how self-aware & essentially knowing the singer is. 'we get more than we deserve' indeed

cool runnings - i am you (starslinger remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFxLXj2FOCc
dominique & the new star slinger ep reminded me of this song, which i think is fantastic. the remix adds the echo & as much space as the endless blue sky but ties it the simplest thump. its a good example of how 'chillwave' songs can use static structures & a 'poor' range to make something catchy & pop & feeling

peaking lights - key sparrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVgFaAZn8cc
the titular sparrow is 'much too common' & 'nothing special' but this is my fave track on the new album & its laidback sunny melancholy is perfectly pitched imo. a hazy ode to trying and failing, a recognition of limitations

young athletes leauge - glossed over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUsMqqpdJy8
haha kinda dont have much to say abt this i think the bones of the track sound like the sorta thing u cld make on the playstation two mtv music generator game

death and vanilla - ghosts in the machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YWnqdPE-S0
a friend told me that this is a p direct reference of some 80s thing but i cant remember what she sd. i hear a noir morricone filtered through early english dream pop. i dont think it really matters tho bcuz this is such a perfect marriage of emotional intent & technical skill the track just glides. i think its really beautiful

i like the death & vanilla stuff a lot

have you heard the new peaking lights? i think youd dig it quite a bit. ive cooled a bit on the puro instinct record although i think theres still some great stuff there

it's in my list to check out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BacPDrDeY8U

i no its already bloggd out but 4 posterity

r.i.p.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKXRiRYhRI

may have been posted before, but this came to me in a dream last night and now I just can't. stop. repeating!

yeah the star slinger record is one my favorites right now. that and the forma record are the only really chillwave-y things that ive been listening to, really. unless i can shoehorn in selebrities 'secret garden' :/

man i miss plax so much :////

i dont know if anyones even still reading this thread but:

new archers by the sea cassette on blackest rainbow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnDt_YYf8dc

dead gaze's somewhere else 7":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8maO_L_TjqY

also two releases that i cant find vidz for: jonas reinhardt has something coming out on nnf that seems promising (cosmic synth meditations) & the wyrd visions/castlemusic split lp particularly the castlemusic side which is incredible chillfolk

Defo still reading this thread Lamp, enjoying most of your contributions thoroughly. U R NOT ALONE

should maybe start a new thread so it doesnt end up in the chllwve genre ghetto but the new com truise album is out soon & is p fukken good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USAr9xNz1jM

oh also i bought that jonas reinhardt album on sunday (BRAGGIN) but havent really had much of a chance to listen to it... also picked up a new celer release on blackest rainbow :D

jonas reinhardt album

the one on not not fun? it's good, though it's not quite as impressive as the last kranky one