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How about I don't really care, Nat?

if you care enough to speculate about it on a public forum, it's not that difficult a leap to make, y'know.

what is this about the Avalanches? details pls!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, when did it become a rule that we had to decisively determine an author's conscious intentions when speaking about what may be revealed by their work??!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, but who put the shovel up your ass?

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT THE AVALANCHES? c'mon Spencer, if anyone knows this it's gotta be you.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm serious. I think it's fully within reason to speculate on Murphy's views on dance music without actually asking him. I don't think that's a revolutionary concept. Also, what's with the "shovel up your ass" bit?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Ass for the Avalanches, they're definitely working on a new album, but I've only heard an extended snippet at the modularpeople.com site - and it's down now. I could send it to you of course - if I ever get this shovel out of my ass!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

spencer that murphy interview left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth too but i think you might be jumping to conclusions in re: whether dude appreciates daft punk in the "correct" manner

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno?!?!?!?! maybe your punctuation?!?!?!?!?! made it look like you're taking it more personally than I meant it?!?!??! (OK I'll stop now)

anyhow, it is reasonable to speculate, but it's also reasonable to ask if maybe there's more (or less) to know in fact-not-theory. no one's mad here (or I thought you were and I was wrong); I was just trying to be evenhanded.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

also people who are not dickish can easily come across as if they are in interview transcripts.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't mad at all!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

and no, I haven't read the interview yet (the new issue isn't out in Seattle yet, grrr--we get magazines really late most of the time as it is); maybe if I had I'd be more inclined to be annoyed w/Murphy myself. that, and "right" and "wrong" ways of listening tend to be a bit of a sore spot for me, for whatever reason. that's where I misread you, S.C.--apologies.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

matos the unedited transcript of the interview in question is on the lcd thread (oh wait--probably not anymore!)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

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None necessary! My sore spot at the moment is when dance music is being accepted grudgingly by corny indie types. There was a link to the unedited interview on a lost LCD thread where he completely dismisses the Happy Mondays and Primal Scream (I'm assuming Screamadelica), two bands who much more wholeheartedly embraced "dance music".

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i wouldn't neccessarily read that as a blanket dismissal of dance music tho--i mean maybe he just doesn't like those bands!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

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That thread also contained all sorts of qualifying statements about how big a fan I am of LCD Soundsystem.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, it appears not to be there, just a disco ball leading us to the new video.

I've had the album a week but have been so wrapped up in year-end shit I haven't played it yet. (also, it's copy protected, which means I have to drag out a regular CD player I barely use anymore, ugh ugh rigamarole who needs it.) I will play it soon, however--gotta review it for someone.

xpost: I have to say, I'm not much of a Mondays or Primal Scream fan myself--they have singles I like, but that's not the same thing as liking them as bands. I'd definitely say that most of that stuff was and remains really overrated. that's just me, though--I'm not gonna assume that's necessarily what Murphy meant.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

and the key word of Spencer's post is "grudgingly," it should be said.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"It was something that Tim and I never pushed and weren't very interested in. That stuff was meaningless to me. I thought it was shit. At the time that stuff came out, I was like, 'This is crap'. I remember hearing 'Fool's Gold' and thinking it was really likeable and that a lot of college kids would like it, but it was like Vitamin C to me without the weird, crazy Japanese guy. It just never meant anything to me. I was in an American world at that time. I like some of it now looking back at it, but it's not a touchstone for me at all. I think they got kind of interested in that stuff. I think aesthetically a lot of that stuff is really meandering and unclear and all over the place."

Key words: "was"; "looking back at it"

― STOP WITH YOUR PTANS (natepatrin), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

spence he doesn't completely dismiss happy mondays or primal scream, the interviewer mentions how the rapture name those bands as touchstones and asks him if he feels the same and he responds that they didn't really mean anything to him at the time, that he was listening to other music, that he liked "fools gold" well enough, and that he likes some of it now. he hardly dismisses madchester as much as the pixies or pavement (he's blathers on some anti-scene rhetoric in general, so maaybe that could be taken as anti-madchester); english mag asks american artist is english artists were a "touchstone" and american artist responds 'not really' /= the trash talk it's been made out to be.

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― jblount, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Last line of the article: "I also like Terry Riley a lot, not like a dillettante, this is something I love."

― STOP WITH YOUR PTANS (natepatrin), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

blount otm

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean are both rock reactions/interactions with dance culture? - yeah, but they're fairly different reactions, different fashion, drugs, not NEARLY the hippy vibe around murphy as with yr average bagboy.

nate i hope to god that's the last line of the article, you can just see his gears working there 'right the wire, hmm, ok i know what i'll say...'

― jblount, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not into reformulating everything I posted on the lost thread, but I will say again that I'm not surprised at his remarks. I'll also repeat that the discomfort with dance music that I sense is what makes LCD Soundsystem so interesting and great anyway. He's at least engaging with the Other which I suspect attracts and repulses him.

(also, this all started with a discussion of the cover).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Which, with it's xeroxed disco ball, several times removed from the glitter, maintains its ironic distance.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

it could also mean "glitter can be diy too!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

how has this thread become about LCD?! when surely 'Human After All' is the biggest news for ILM folk (apart from all those Radiohead fans hyuck hyuck) for nearly 5 years?

― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Matos, "right" and "wrong" ways of listening are accusations I would NEVER, EVER make.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

In other words, I'm very glad he loves Daft Punk, however, I'm curious as to which tracks he loves (and I have my suspicions). I should not have said "*get*".

Also, Steve is CORRECT.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

However, I'm unsure as to what to say about it. I fully expect to be amazed musically and conceptually and I doubt the value of even speculating about how they're going to turn my world upside down!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

thing w/Daft Punk is that I can't even expect they'll floor me again; I just have to wait and see. that's what I do w/Basement Jaxx, too.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

so were you saying you had their album or LCD's?

speaking of Basement Jaxx, they've got a new track on their site which is pretty neat, the vocalist sounds a bit like Shystie at times

― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

some people think i'm shy
some people think i'm nasty
but if you really want to know just ask me
and i'll say i'm shystie

― jblount, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

and they say UK rhymes is wack!

― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

so yes just to confirm, the new Daft Punk album will feature collaborations and appearances from James Murphy, Basement Jaxx and Shystie.

― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

daft punk feat. shystie and michel'le "me shystie, u nicety (morgan geisty remix)"

― jblount, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently they turned down offers from The Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, and Primal Scream.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

they completely dismissed them! (cf. future b-side "groovy train down the drain (fraiser crane remix)")

― jblount, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Turned down offers for what? Crack?

― STOP WITH YOUR PTANS (natepatrin), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(OK, that's strickly a Mondays joke, but hey)

― STOP WITH YOUR PTANS (natepatrin), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope 'Human After All' is the conclusion they make after an album full of robots and vocoders.

― Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd rather they just dressed up as chairs (to go with that table they designed). 'Inanimate Objects, Would You Ow You Say Adam And Eve It?' to look forward to in 2008.

― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

the snag with the title is that it's *been done*. on the last track of the felix da housecat lp, there's that track 'neon human' on which (thru a semi-human sounding vocoder) the warm voice but weary lyrics give a first person account of a robot wanting to be a human, having been a robot for so long. this idea of returning to humanity, shedding yr robot-skin is last year's HOTT dance thing! gah!

whoever's in charge of the VIRGIN press release ('from the hardcore BRAINWASHER to the pumping TECHNOLOGIC...') wants shooting.

nevertheless i cant wait 4 the record.

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh it's a rub press release and the same thing is appearing on more sites now (Launch...) but still not The Raft! that's just weird incompetence surely.

― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"Neon Human"? Try Numan's "Metal". (Which was just rerecorded this year. With Afrika Bambaataa. And nobody told me?!)

― STOP WITH YOUR PTANS (natepatrin), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem that 'ow you say adam and eve it' line made me laff!

― jimblountski, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

english mag asks american artist if english artists were a "touchstone" and american artist responds 'not really' /= the trash talk it's been made out to be.

this is why I hate LCD Soundsystem, can we have a moratorium on this sort of country wars crap. the word english just fucking leaps out of that sentence. I mean so what if an English magazine asks him were English artists a touchstone, IT'S AN ENGLISH MAGAZINE.

You bad toothed British fuckers weren't influencing our indie when we saved your limey asses in the war huh! NO SIR!

I mean "I was in an American world at that time", yes at THAT time! There comes a point when this sort of insular crap just grates beyond being able to ignore it, perhaps that point is to do with further political happenings.

I mean you very seldom hear English people being so casually but staunchly patriotic, and actually so obliviously too. It's just sickening, there's a whole world out there and I can't be arsed listening to artists who are part of just one great glob in it, and revel in that, consciously or otherwise.

Or to quote Jess "I'd be perfectly happy for dance music to be made by gay guys in basketball shirts forever".

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 23 December 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

not that half the LCD album isn't just alt-rock by any other name anyway, I'd rather listen to Screamadelica any fucking day of the week.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 23 December 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

And the stupendous laugh your ass off part about all this is that Tim Goldsworthy was in Unkle!! If they weren't the food laden drain off in the gigantic washing up basket of early 90s British baggy indie then I don't know what was!

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 23 December 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I was not in an American world at that time.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

not exclusively...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

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