A few people (including me) didn't think This Is Happening was so great, but I certainly don't despise them/him or anything.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 February 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh...that's all. I thought it was ok for what it was. The second album is the best in my opinion. If they were going for a trilogy kind of thing the third one is always the weakest.
― Wanted to slap a teengaer who didn't know Are You That Somebody (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 5 February 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
you should have read the 2010 ALBUMS and TRACKS polls. whoof there be some haters.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 5 February 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I was under the impression people loved it. This is why I'll never understand indie/indie dance music scene (or maybe it is just the internet scene). Do people want musicians to survive pass two albums or do they just want to cut to the chase of hating them because that's the cool thing to do?
― Wanted to slap a teengaer who didn't know Are You That Somebody (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 5 February 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
The only reasons I had for not liking the last album fall squarely into the "he's done this before, and better" school of thought. Half the people bitch if you keep doing the same thing, the other half bitch if you change it up. It's hard to win, really.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 February 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i was being a bit facetious with the backlash comment. certain groups of internet people will hate on anything that pitchfork-reading white indie boys who "don't understand dance" like, especially if they see a band like LCD Soundsystem as wannabe stuff.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 5 February 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess that's why you have people who are hardcore fans (or "stans" in some music circle say) and embrace the same aesthetic touches in a musician's/band's music. I wasn't a hardcore fan of LCD, but I liked their aesthetic and accepeted it for what it was. I wasn't surprised that he didn't stray from it on the third album.
― Wanted to slap a teengaer who didn't know Are You That Somebody (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 5 February 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Haha thanks for the clarification. I'm a black hip hop/r&b loving boy who think LCD Soundsystem are great!!! I wonder what the haters would say about me.
― Wanted to slap a teengaer who didn't know Are You That Somebody (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 5 February 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow. I would love to see that show. Even though I didn't love This is Happening, they are probably the best live band i've ever seen.
also, this was pointed out to me recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Bae3R49ew
kind of rotten for them not to credit that on the album.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 5 February 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
well if they had to be honest about everything on that lp that wasn't very original it would be fairly awkward yeah?
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Saturday, 5 February 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Are there other examples of direct rips like that? I mean, they just played that song almost note for note and added some vocals. I'm not sure if there are other songs on the album that are copies and not just 'inspired' by.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 5 February 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa...I mean I love LCD's version of this but holy cow that is a pretty direct rip
― frogbs, Sunday, 6 February 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
It's really no worse than the "Homosapien" and "Nighclubbing" rips.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento LLC (SNM), Sunday, 6 February 2011 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't mind the "Nightclubbing" one so much because I don't really like the LCD version, while "Dance Yrself Clean" is one of my favorite songs of theirs, I know it doesn't really make sense but that's why it bothers me. Also it sounds like this one is a real obscurity so it just seems that much more shady; I don't think the Iggy Pop rip was supposed to get by anybody.
BTW which song did they rip off "Homosapien" for??? It does sound a bit like "North American Scum" but it's not obvious to me..
― frogbs, Sunday, 6 February 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
it sounds a LOT like North American Scum
― basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Monday, 7 February 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
this album did away entirely with what i liked best about them: on the first two albums, not only did they have a cool, edgy indie aesthetic with interesting vox and lyrics, but they combined that with beats that were genuinely danceable, or at least made you want to move/bounce around. "this is happening" loses almost all the funkyness of the previous albums and singles - therefore, i dislike it. if you liked lcd soundsystem for reasons other than mine, you might like this album more than i do, i can't really knock it, it's got some cool vocals and arrangements and stuff, but for me, they've lost their edge.
that said, the lack of danceable grooves may very well be why they've suddenly gotten popular with all my anti-dance-music, indie-rock-or-nothin friends; for all i know mr. murphy has made this stylistic change on purpose. but still.
― messiahwannabe, Monday, 7 February 2011 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Pow Pow?
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
but for me, they've lost their edge.
i guess the bright side of the break-up will be never reading the above zinger again. "as for me, i've got lcd soundsystem's beats ON REPEAT."
― like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link
can anyone confirm if the sessions cd a limited release ?
― mark e, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Not sure where you are, but I've seen it all over the place. Even my local Best Buy (which has reduced its music section to virtually nothing) has multiple copies.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
uk.its about here and there, but nowhere near as much presence as previous LCD releases.and given EMIs ongoing chaos, was wondering if this is one of those buy now, or regret later releases as various corners of the catalogue gets deleted.
― mark e, Monday, 7 February 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, that fear is why I grabbed it as soon as I saw it, but since then I've seen it all over the place.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 February 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
lcd soundsystem are playing madison square garden on april 2nd, and it will be our last show ever. we are retiring from the game. gettin’ out. movin’on. but for just one more night, we will be playing with friends and family for nearly 3 hours–playing stuff we’ve never played before and going out with a bang. and we’d like you to be there.
if you would, we’d love it if people all came in white. or black. or black and white. and come ready to have fun, please. and come early, as the festivities will be opened by our favorites, liquid liquid. yes: liquidliquid.
if it’s a funeral, let’s have the best funeral ever!!!
GENERAL ONSALE FEBRUARY 11TH
― curmudgeon, Monday, 7 February 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
lcd's doing colbert on valentine's day, apparently.
― Clay, Monday, 7 February 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
― mark e
I've seen no sign that this is a limited release. I just ordered it from Play last night it's 7.99 on there and Amazon. You can get it from actual sellers for a bit cheaper but they all seem to be American, it must be much more available there.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 7 February 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually I kind of agree that this one was "less danceable" than the previous two, but it doesn't make it worse or anything. Like SoS there's like 4-5 killer tracks and some other decent material/filler, but overall it's one of the best of the year. Ripped or not "Dance Yrself Clean" is incredible.
― frogbs, Monday, 7 February 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link
By the way while we're on the subject of ripoffs the track "Thrills" is so much a rewrite of "Warm Leatherette" that I'm surprised they didn't get slagged more for it..."Losing My Edge" is mostly taken from a Killing Joke song, "Daft Punk.." is basically "TNT" and Murphy imitates Mark E. Smith for the entire first album. And yet they get off scot-free while Scooter gets slammed for doing the same thing??
― frogbs, Monday, 7 February 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
murphy said at the time that 'thrills' was basically 'warm leatherette' + 'get ur freak on'
― scraping Doritos off the wheel (haitch), Monday, 7 February 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Never got to see them, but assuming I can get online before tickets sell out (and my boss doesn't have me working that Saturday) I may actually make it to this show! Excited, but sad.
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Monday, 7 February 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought the beat on Losing My Edge was from A Certain Ratio?
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnqN-rGM3J8
Not as obvious as Dance Yrself Clean but it's more obvious than Leaving On A Jet Plane / Run.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
"get innocuous" = kraftwerk "robots"
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link
THIS JUST IN: MUSIC OF LCD SOUNDSYSTEM CAUGHT "REFERENCING" OTHER MUSICS
― crème neppa venette (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
like, come on ppl. This is part of their whole shtick.
― crème neppa venette (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
At least make an interesting thread like the Stereolab references one that Milton did.
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
sometimes I wonder if certain people only like bands whose references they don't get/recognize
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
List The Direct References of Stereolab
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Shakey OTM. I'm so glad that when I first heard the Jesus & Mary Chain and Spacemen 3 I didn't know much about older bands so I wasn't ticking off the references. It's an increasingly hard thing to remember when reviewing records as you get older - you don't want to become the old killjoy going, "That song you like? Well it's taken from this." Sample-based music is different though, and I see LCD's lifts as almost live (and uncredited) samples so it's more like a hip hop record, where finding out the sources doesn't detract from my enjoyment, and in fact enhances it because of what's been done to those sources.
― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
When I interviewed James Murphy for this record he talked about this French journalist who was trying to catch him out, going [I quote his impression]. "So, zis song All I Want, perhaps you 'ave been listening to David Bowie's Heroes, non?" And he replied, "Well yes. Obviously. That was the idea."
― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link
dunno how hearing the jamaica running song would ruin 'dance yrself clean'...like, yeah, clearly he ripped the drums from a sorta boring song as part of the intro to his much more inneresting song. if the jamaica running song suddenly broke out in the crazy fuzz synth riff I might be disappointed.
― iatee, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
they do a lot of great covers so it's easy to see their "originals" as barely disguised covers. doesn't bother me at all.
going to try to get tickets to that MSG show, saw them at Bowery Ballroom on the tour for the first record and it was great.
― dmr, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link
the pool >>> dance yrself clean though
― dmr, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah that's a good point but I would never say the song was ever 'ruined' for me, I mean Datarock do this all the time too and they're one of my favorite bands. I think it's more of a disappointment in realizing that this band is something you define as say, the sound of the 00's or whatever in your eyes, only to realize that it's just the same as the 80's but with a facelift.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link
someone very reliable once told me that the original All My Friends was so much like a certain 80s New Order track (i forget which) that they'd have got sued if it'd have come out that way. so they had to go back and fiddle with it to make it sound.. a lot less so.
how come say Elastica had to give co-writing credits for the Wire/ Sranglers steals on Connection and Waking Up and Blur for the much less obvious Bowie/ Eno steals on M.O.R. but not LCD for theirs? i love LCD so i'm not out to diss em, just.. wondering why some bands get away with it and some don't.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link
that's just a casio preset, isn't it?
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
The Killing Joke song is called "Change" and it's a B-Side. IIRC the beat is played with a bass guitar or something. The KJ version is obviously a lot heavier but it's very similar.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Big difference between lifting a melody and lifting a beat. People don't cry plagiarism when someone uses the Be My Baby beat.
― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
how come say Elastica had to give co-writing credits for the Wire/ Sranglers steals on Connection and Waking Up and Blur for the much less obvious Bowie/ Eno steals on M.O.R. but not LCD for theirs?
probably because back when Blur and Elastica were making those records they were actually making tons of money off hit singles and associated CD sales. This is not the case with LCD Soundsystem.
Rule No. 1 of Litigation: Don't sue poor people
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Tell that to the RIAA.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
RIAA not really a model of successful litigators imho
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link