For anyone who hasn't read it, this is Mixapp's explanation for using Facebook
Why do I have to log in with a Facebook account?Requiring Facebook was ultimately an issue of limited resources on our part. We needed a way to integrate social networking functionality quickly and easily, and for the many, many people who use Facebook regularly, a Facebook-based account provided the functionality we needed with relatively little software development effort — so we see this as the best way to grow the MixApp community while we're getting off the ground.To be sure, nothing is set in stone, and in the future we expect to integrate with Twitter, OpenID, OAuth, OpenSocial, and every other single sign on or social graph system with enough traction to make sense. However, given MixApp's friend-based nature this is a non-trivial development task compared to the simplicity of the Facebook-only setup, and for now we need to focus on more immediate goals.If Facebook is a non-starter for you, we want you to know that we, too, have concerns about Facebook's attitude towards privacy and control, and we're looking forward to having the resources we need to give you a choice on this front. If you'd like to know when we have a non-Facebook login option, please let us know, and we'll shoot you an email when we do. Until then, we very much appreciate your patience as we try to get MixApp off the ground.
Requiring Facebook was ultimately an issue of limited resources on our part. We needed a way to integrate social networking functionality quickly and easily, and for the many, many people who use Facebook regularly, a Facebook-based account provided the functionality we needed with relatively little software development effort — so we see this as the best way to grow the MixApp community while we're getting off the ground.
To be sure, nothing is set in stone, and in the future we expect to integrate with Twitter, OpenID, OAuth, OpenSocial, and every other single sign on or social graph system with enough traction to make sense. However, given MixApp's friend-based nature this is a non-trivial development task compared to the simplicity of the Facebook-only setup, and for now we need to focus on more immediate goals.
If Facebook is a non-starter for you, we want you to know that we, too, have concerns about Facebook's attitude towards privacy and control, and we're looking forward to having the resources we need to give you a choice on this front. If you'd like to know when we have a non-Facebook login option, please let us know, and we'll shoot you an email when we do. Until then, we very much appreciate your patience as we try to get MixApp off the ground.
It really doesn't make much sense, as OpenID is just about the easiest thing to integrate into a site as exists on the web (most of the time it will just install itself as a plugin). They're clearly looking to monetize Mixapp and aligning themselves with Facebook users is the fastest way to get there.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:02 (fifteen years ago)
Can't really blame them for looking to monetize Mixapp imo...the case of Listening Room shows what happens when you don't have any business plan.
― Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:35 (fifteen years ago)
abe fettig is like a name from a theodore dreiser novel, though i haven't read any of those
sort yr shit out sonnn
― frail slattern altness (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
really do miss this
― الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:06 (fifteen years ago)
cool, new beta next week
sign up yall
― frail slattern altness (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
need a twitter account for the beta. really easy to set up a dummy twitter account tho.
― just woke up (lukas), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:54 (fifteen years ago)
Signed up!
― Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:59 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.sport.co.uk/public/ph_signup_amirkhan_4.JPG
― frail slattern altness (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
I'm there. Left this comment:
Seriously consider a payment system (or payment option) based not on micropayments, but on allowing users to "rent" access to a room for a day. Perhaps that day's sponsor would have the ability to post a headline (even headline graphic), drag-and-drop songs in the queue, or kick unwelcome guests.
― The End is Nigher (Sanpaku), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:19 (fifteen years ago)
why? you can start as many rooms as you want
― frail slattern altness (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:23 (fifteen years ago)
Fettig wants to move to a micropayments system by users to pay broadcast royalties to stay legal, a bit like a coin-operated jukebox. I'm just pointing out that I'd be happy to throw a PayPal payment his way to sponsor a once-a-week ILXor shindig, rather than expect everyone present to scrounge for quarters to contribute.
― The End is Nigher (Sanpaku), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:31 (fifteen years ago)
At the moment though he's hoping to run the service off ads though: http://fettig.net/weblog/2011/02/09/good-news-for-listening-room/
― Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:36 (fifteen years ago)
idk
i don't know if we should be -- or are -- 'in it for the long haul' but a beta lisnin room that doesn't fuck up so much will do for the time being until some enterprising ppl rent serverspace in tajikistan and write a decent gui
the ilxor room was anything goes, nobody was abusing it afaict.....i'd rather go to a separate room for noisy arcana that throw $5 at it so tuomas has to listen to florian hecker for twenty minutes
http://blissout.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_blissout_archive.html#114962055324130149
― frail slattern altness (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:39 (fifteen years ago)
that=than
― frail slattern altness (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:40 (fifteen years ago)
I liked the unpredictable all-inclusive aspect of ILXOR, though obv if you want to throw on your hour-long Merzbow odysseys you need something like tbrr (and it facilitates two-rooms-at-once awesomeness).
― Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:42 (fifteen years ago)
right
i like most of sanpaku's stuff
the idea of buying privileges works on slsk because it isn't seen to diminish the rights of nonpayers
― frail slattern altness (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:44 (fifteen years ago)
The "features" I suggested weren't so much for the ILX community, as we seem open-minded. Just ideas that might make a payment system viable in general if ad sponsorship (hooray) doesn't pay the bills. A turntable dictator would find herself playing to an empty room...
― The End is Nigher (Sanpaku), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:47 (fifteen years ago)
just spent an hour talking with abethe new beta launches sometime next weeksounds like he's got lots of good ideas and directions for Listening Room and he's aiming at keeping the service scalable and legal and up for the long haulpretty excited.
― الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 February 2011 23:59 (fifteen years ago)
Couldn't you guys do this with a program like go-to-meeting or something?
― van smack, Sunday, 13 February 2011 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
ffs
― fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
cmon fettig
# There are a couple of issues holding up the LR beta. Won't be too much longer though. Thanks for your patience everyone! about 12 hours ago via web
# Working late on Listening Room tonight, getting ready to start the beta tomorrow. It's going to feel great to having people using LR again. 12:00 AM Feb 23rd via web
― oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:32 (fifteen years ago)
wtf come on abe!
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
just spoke with him yesterday; it's coming and it's coming shortly.
― bang-proof-bling-mans (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:04 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah c'mon Fettig if that is indeed yr real name you ingenious bastard.
― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.ianhayse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/underconstructionanimat.gif
― they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:25 (fifteen years ago)
It's up, but you have to sign in with your twitter account now I guess? Not sure what they do if you don't have a twitter account.
http://listeningroom.net/room/ILXOR
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:27 (fifteen years ago)
http://meowcheese.com/files/lolpics/2008/04/yay-its-caturday.jpg
― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:26 (fifteen years ago)
Buggy as hell right now. Didn't notice that when I was the only one in the room, but if several people are playing songs it becomes problematic.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:37 (fifteen years ago)
Oh man, it's as buggy as all shit. It seems at the moment if you load a track it will start playing then when the next track in line is finished uploading it starts playing right away instead of queueing.
― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:37 (fifteen years ago)
Oh hey :) XP
messing with this now; same issues y'all are having. but join me if you canhttp://listeningroom.net/room/ILXOR/#
― bang-proof-bling-mans (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 March 2011 18:03 (fifteen years ago)
except now it doesn't seem to be working at all.
― bang-proof-bling-mans (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 March 2011 18:05 (fifteen years ago)
Not much going on at the moment? I guess it's for the best - I really ought to be working...
― oigwheoiqng4g (seandalai), Friday, 4 March 2011 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
It may be up.
I've played 3 songs in a row without too many glitches.
http://listeningroom.net/room/ILXOR/
― Competent Person Statement (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 23:45 (fifteen years ago)
Well, maybe not. Seems to be hanging on uploads still.
― Competent Person Statement (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 23:48 (fifteen years ago)
So you have to have "Twitter" account to log in now? Why can't these sites just have their own login instead of forcing you to register to some other site?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 07:24 (fifteen years ago)
Because cross-site logins are the wave of the future!
(Actually, it's just an easy way to target advertising.)
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 07:28 (fifteen years ago)
I managed to upload a track, which is more than I could do last week...
― oigwheoiqng4g (seandalai), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 11:05 (fifteen years ago)
It seems to be working okay this morning if anyones about, playing some Japanese music today.
― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Friday, 11 March 2011 10:19 (fifteen years ago)
waiting to get all clear to use the beta.sent off the request yesterday, but not heard back.[unless you can get in without clearance ? ]
― mark e, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:28 (fifteen years ago)
I imagine you can log in with Twitter still, try going in here http://sleeperindustries.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2dda1a10721e02bb3df5fe954&id=7712804e32&e=ab22fec605
― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Friday, 11 March 2011 10:32 (fifteen years ago)
"Sorry, marke23, your account hasn't been added to the Listening Room private beta yet. If you've already signed up you should get an email soon when your account is activated. If you haven't signed up, fill out the signup form - it only takes a few seconds!"
i'm not paranoid.
― mark e, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:44 (fifteen years ago)
Hmm, that's kinda annoying that he hasn't had a chance to activate all the signatures yet.
― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Friday, 11 March 2011 10:49 (fifteen years ago)
ilxor (in lower case) is up and workinghttp://listeningroom.net/room/ilxor/
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 13 March 2011 12:55 (fifteen years ago)
anybody else on and working?
not going to create a twitter acct for this -- when he adds ways to log in I'll check it out again
― lowfat dry milquetoast (WmC), Sunday, 13 March 2011 13:55 (fifteen years ago)
can't say as i blame you there
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 13 March 2011 15:57 (fifteen years ago)
If anyone's around, got a Monday Sakamoto playlist on the go at ILXOR and it seems to be working.
― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Monday, 14 March 2011 10:19 (fifteen years ago)
Cheer me up. I've got disaster fatigue.
― What is here is dangerous and repulsive to us. (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:38 (fifteen years ago)