― J (Jay), Friday, 14 July 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 15 July 2006 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Saturday, 15 July 2006 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link
I remember making cookies once when I first heard and went crazy over Jane's Addiction "Mountain Song".
― Lenny Koggins (Bimble...), Saturday, 15 July 2006 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 15 July 2006 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― genital hyphys (haitch), Monday, 4 September 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link
All gone!
Woah!
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link
the 'albatross' version has phasing all over the drums and what might be a slowed-down melodica. it also has lydon squawking "i am an albatross!" in parts. an... acquired taste.
― genital hyphys (haitch), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
WOW! Hooray! one of my favourite tracks of all time is now 10 minutes long! It's a little off the 'perfect hi-fi experience' but it's well worth getting and THANKS! for telling me about it.
Mind you, that 'remix' of Albatross is as I said above. It has an 'augustus pablo' style melodica, and someone squawking as per "fodderstompf" over the top. Whatever they are saying you can't tell as it's all drowned out by the melodica. And, suspiciously, the track fades out at exactly the same point as the album track. Is it a fake? Well, if it had been mixed better, it might have been interesting. But then it might have showed up the fakery, if it is such.
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link
American Bandstand - "Poptones"
― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Friday, 13 October 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link
It seems both tracks have been nicked from the "Best of British £1 notes" DVD of John Lydon.
Apparently, it has three 'monitor mixes' of MB tracks. So, go there.
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Radio Free Albemuth (DocMartensBoots), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link
I've got an audio recording of the Ritz riot in '81, too.http://www.furious.com/Perfect/pil.html
Ah, those were the days!
*coughs, totters away on cane*
― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link
listening to this for first time in six or seven years: ye gods. what kind of mood do you have to be in to enjoy this?
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Friday, 15 May 2009 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link
A challopy one.
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 15 May 2009 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link
j/k I like this album
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/0510/Public_Image_Ltd_-_American_Bandstand_-_800517.mpg
― billstevejim, Saturday, 16 May 2009 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link
In addition to a lot of this being about Malcolm McLaren, just as much or more is about his mum dying, which i don't think got mentioned
― Niles Caulder, Saturday, 16 May 2009 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link
"what kind of mood do you have to be in to enjoy this?"
UK release 1979. Mood music.
― Soukesian, Saturday, 16 May 2009 07:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not sure I can define the mood, but I spent a lot of time in it when I was in my early twenties, certainly.
― a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 16 May 2009 10:01 (fifteen years ago) link
"Stoned and angry" might come close?
It's a lot more mellow than it's sometimes prtrayed though.
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Saturday, 16 May 2009 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Sorry, anything that has Poptones and Death Disco/Swan Lake on it is never going to be mellow in my book.
― a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 16 May 2009 10:13 (fifteen years ago) link
it does have other tracks on it
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Saturday, 16 May 2009 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes, but those rather dominate the mood.
― a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 16 May 2009 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
(YMMV, of course. But woah, I'm never coming round your gaff to chill out.)
― a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 16 May 2009 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Despair and anger. Very big in 1979 - see also Joy Division.
― Soukesian, Saturday, 16 May 2009 11:29 (fifteen years ago) link
This album is fun.
― SQUIRREL WITH A PEOPLE FACE (╓abies), Saturday, 16 May 2009 11:56 (fifteen years ago) link
and Fear of Music...and...
― dan selzer, Saturday, 16 May 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
WTF I can't believe you haters
― akm, Saturday, 16 May 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link
That clip is making me rethink life in a good way.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 16 May 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Boy, Dick Clark sure yanked down that American Bandstand clip in a hurry. Bummer.
How much of the Lydon bio deals with the PIL era? Because the idea of reading yet another history of the Pistols or about anything after Flowers of Romance hardly seems worth the effort.
Speaking of, Metal Box is kinda screaming for the 33 1/3 treatement, no?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 16 May 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 16 May 2009 17:51 (4 hours ago) Bookmark
I agree, but I can't believe it's not butter
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 16 May 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i read lydon's book a long time ago and IIRC he doesn't discuss the PIL era at all.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 16 May 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Typical. There's a book about PIL but it's not available in the states. Maybe one of these days I'll splurge and buy it at the import price.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 16 May 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
NO BLACKS, NO IRISH, NO DOGS does not cover the PIL era.
I shouldn't still get wound up about people hating the Pistols, because the records were meant to be hated, but face it, no Pistols, no PIL. No Punk, no post-punk. I've recently been bingeing on the various Mark E. Smith bios, and one of them describes him listening to "Holidays in the Sun" obsessively. But Mark is just another "Tuneless, rhythmless wanker who clearly makes no effort to sing anything that even remotely relates to what the musicians are doing".
Yes. I need to hear that sometimes.
― Soukesian, Saturday, 16 May 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, this thread then.
I was running through the PIL album pages on Wikip, and noticed that when recording one track for Metal Box, the thought went round "yeah, it sounds like The Doors, dunnit?" to general approval.
So, officially, "Albatross" is their sort-of take on "Riders on the Storm"
― Mark G, Thursday, 3 March 2011 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Metal Box is hard to love, but then PiL never really wanted anyone to send flowers. Can't agree with this general slagging of Levene, however. The guitar on the first changed something fundamental about how guitars sounded, distorted but also shiny and clean. It was something genuinely new and exciting. Loads of people ripped it off, or went trad in opposition to the trend. You could make similar arguments for Poptones.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
should read "guitar on the first single changed somehthing etc.."
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link