i dunno what you lot are hearing. this album is great. and lovely. listening for the first time now. much better than jamie fucking woon in any case.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:18 (fifteen years ago)
That's a relief. I was beginning to think I was the only person here who loves this album.
― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:13 (fifteen years ago)
one of the best albums ive heard in ages. i dont know how its inspired such hate.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)
(apart from people being sheeplike, obv)
Love the album too, from start to finish.
― LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
Agree that Kerogen is better than both Blake and Woon.
― Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:54 (fifteen years ago)
yeah love this album a lot
― the Chinese firewall of the heart (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:01 (fifteen years ago)
that korgen track is pretty boring, lacks character imo. this stuff jacks burial better imo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV9Lrt8ZVaYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS52AKvj8M0
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
i wish it was a whole album based around the vocoder chorale sound in 'lindesfarne', that's the most magical bit of this for me
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:10 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/feb/03/james-blake-album-reviewPetridis on the new album. Sounds like he's being a little fair on it.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:24 (fifteen years ago)
The Quietus and Fact reviews are pretty damn fair as well: http://thequietus.com/articles/05632-james-blake-review / http://www.factmag.com/2011/02/04/james-blake-james-blake/
I still need to hear it I've been sleeping on it cos I don't dl and couldn't be arsed asking for a promo. Glad there is some sense being talked in amongst the hype he deserves it, he's got some killer music in him.
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:59 (fifteen years ago)
thought the Petridis review was reasonable overall but he raised my hackles straight out of the blocks with "tiny independents" in the first paragraph - pretty sure R&S isn't run out of someone's bedroom ffs
― look its not that you listen to metal its that youre a bellend ok (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:20 (fifteen years ago)
That Quietus review is pretty much OTM.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 14:23 (fifteen years ago)
fuck fairness this album is abysmal and thoroughly worthless
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:40 (fifteen years ago)
god i should've pitched to review it somewhere but i couldn't face slogging through it again
TheQuietus are pretty much otm its a bit unfair to call it dance music for bedweters though, its not really got any dance on it as far as I can tell. Couldn't they just call it music for bedweters? lol
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 February 2011 14:42 (fifteen years ago)
eh, well as much as a "what *is* dance music really" conflab would be as boring and pointless as the equivalent 'indie' one that ppl on here seem have been flogging of late, there are plenty of programmed drums and basslines on the album
― look its not that you listen to metal its that youre a bellend ok (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
lots of boring strawmanning here
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
mrdreamnyc MR. DREAM by rifftrafftAlso...one free Best New Music to the first chillwave band that names itself "James Blake the Tennis Player"
i lol'd
― no beans, push to fart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
Its more electronic than dance though, you can be one without the other. He does make dance music in other places like... But not here. Doesn't really matter though.
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 February 2011 15:01 (fifteen years ago)
i do find it amusing that james blake the producer's rise to prominence coincided EXACTLY with james blake the tennis player falling out of the top 100
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
I by no means love this album; I by no means hate it either. I'd be interested to hear why people who hate it do though - especially those who like his previous stuff, but also Lex. Not trolling, but I'd like to hear it articulated into words beyond "it's awful".
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
my cousin represents the tennis platwe -- i should ask her about this james blake
― no beans, push to fart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
you never mentioned that your cousin represents tennis players j0rdan!!! :O
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
lol "platwe"
yeah she works for IMG
― no beans, push to fart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
dog latin: http://twitter.com/lexpretend/statuses/20406733859987456
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
OMG DOES YOUR COUSIN MANAGE VERA ZVONAREVA TOO??!!!
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
lol idk
― no beans, push to fart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
don't really hear the "indie" vocal; that's just a British accent (although I hate that kind of Jamie T inflection on many many UK indie tracks). Plus the vox have been so heavily treated, I can barely define whether it's indie or not.
rudimentary production? don't know about that. the auto-tune certainly, although I can't quite tell if its use is intended as some sort of super-post-modern joke or not. if he'd taken the vox off completely, I wonder what sort of album it would have been.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:16 (fifteen years ago)
better but still not remotely approaching good
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:20 (fifteen years ago)
you didn't even like CMYK or Footprints (the two tracks most people agreed were his best) did you?
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:25 (fifteen years ago)
I'm fine w/ his vocals when they get chopped to fuck and/or autotuned but he just does not have the voice to carry off what he's going for, also he does this glottal stop thing which boils my piss
― look its not that you listen to metal its that youre a bellend ok (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:25 (fifteen years ago)
a lot of it isn't even auto-tune, it's vocoder. anyway i think the production is exactly what he intended, since he's obviously capable of a more muscular/filled-in style. i do think the record's got some issues (which i've detailed a couple times upthread), but there's still a lot to like. it's just too bad it's so hyped up now.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
i didn't HATE them, but they're just nothingy and a bit awkward, especially compared to what so many other producers in this field are doing - i can't see any reason to pick those out specifically for praise
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
A lot of the producers in this field are pretty rudimentary when it comes to production, I mean you listen to Guido or Joker or Girl Unit and you don't exactly think "wow amazing sound design".
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 15:31 (fifteen years ago)
I really like CMYK but anything with that much of 'Caught Out There' is going to appeal to me, it's a bit of a shame he didn't go further down that road. Louis Pattison is OTM in that there's not much wrong with the sound he's going for but he's just not a strong songwriter and so can't sustain the interest in those elements.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 15:32 (fifteen years ago)
Joker is more put together than it seems at first glance. He just does it in a pretty raw way. His synths sound massive, well worked out and there are plenty of layers to it, but its not over done. He's a beast.
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 February 2011 15:38 (fifteen years ago)
didn't even recognise the sample in CMYK was from Caught Out There (doesn't really affect my liking of it either way tho). really glad i heard it randomly before i read anyone else's yaying or naying. heard Limit To Your Love on headphones only the other week and the subtle deep bass on it was a real surprise (warms me to it a little more).
― idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
the quietus guy fucked up cos he seemed to think blake is like the dubstep bon iver or something, a singer songwriter type of guy. which is just all sorts of wrong. he was fair in his general assessment of the album, but didnt really give it enough credit for what it DOES do brilliantly.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:19 (fifteen years ago)
"I mean you listen to Guido or Joker or Girl Unit and you don't exactly think "wow amazing sound design"."
if you dont think that listening to joker who do you think that listening to?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
also, the whole 'awkard' crit doesnt really add up listening to the album. if you were talking about say the bells sketch ep then okay yeah, i could see that, but the album seems to get rid of a lot of the more annoying idm weaknesses. sure his voice is a bit awkward but not interferingly so. its appropriately, emotively frail imo.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:23 (fifteen years ago)
i wonder how reactions to this record would be different if all the vocals were mixed like 3 db lower than they are
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
(at least on the songs that are basically one line repeated over and over, like 'i never learnt to share')
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
I think Blake himself has mentioned Bon Iver as an influence, I know Mount Kimbie do as well. So thats maybe where that comparison comes from and gets over stated. But yeah he isn't a singer song writer he plays with those ideas but genraly just loops shards of it into his work rather than sitting down and making a full on song out of it all. He uses his own voice in a more upfront way than he did with the vocals on his other EPs but its still a simular method. Bits chopped up here and there, looped all over the place, harmonizing with himself with the aid of technology... I dont think he's trying to be a singer song writer that seems to be more Jamie Woons thing than James Blake.
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 February 2011 16:29 (fifteen years ago)
Really, the industry should have latched on to Woon more than Blake, yeah.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
i think the industry has definitely latched on to woon as well
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
is woon shit? he seems to be. jamie lidell was better.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
I really like Night Air, but not so much anything else.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
I had assumed that Woon was a house producer with a guest vocalist. Only recently realised he's a songwriter. Who produced Night Air (Original Mix) though?
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
burial
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 4 February 2011 16:47 (fifteen years ago)