feel like this would be a good time for any non-white enthusiasts of The National to post xps
― Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
most of my face is obscured with dark hair but sadly I am not liking this. you could have won my heart, the national, but you blew it
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:57 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i didn't really see you liking them dude
― call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
did not vote for them in this btw
The National's best album (and likely best entry point) was Alligator. imo they should've broken up immediately after it was released.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
Everyone has at least two albums showing up in the top 77 btw.
― Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
a) take NPR or Pitchfork's music recommendations seriouslyb) enjoy boring indie bands like the Walkmen, Arcade Fire, Band of Horses and Wilcoc) you're white btw
all good heuristics for guessing whether a particular individual likes the National, but not an explanation of why someone might like the national (unless you believe your skin color is what helps certain music sound good)
― Mordy, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
c) you're white btw
p.s. - there actually are some white ppl who post (or at least lurk) on ILX, FYI
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
That said, there are enough neat production touches in The National that I can see why they'd be effective in certain situations. Just doesn't have much bite to it, it's got a kinda studied softness instead. As you said, really.
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
GOOD NEWS E'RYBODY
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
I still don't know what the Radio Dept. is, and that's despite seeing their name around for what seems like years. What is it that they do?
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
Think of all the really good albums that would have missed out if the poll was only top 50 as usual. Thanks JF & co for expanding it!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
Ooooh, I listened to the first radio dept today, will check that out
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
have not fully caught up on thread but Sun Araw above Rihanna = I love you guyz after all
(can't actually remember if I voted for it seeing as I like it but it is no Beach Head)
back to yr scheduled ragging on indie dudes for being indie (oh hai)
― cellular nekomata (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
Things I think are *brilliant* out of that lot: The KnifeThings I love out of that lot: Zola Jesus, Sun Araw, The Radio Dept.Things I am *intrigued* by and/or interested to hear more of: Harvey Milk (new album, <3 them in general), Quadron, Warpaint (need to listen again), No Age (same), Sun City GirlsThings I will check out later: Third Eye Foundation, EnslavedThings that didn't click w/ me already: Rihanna (love her, just not this album), Kylie (same)Things that make me really go zzzzzz: The Tallest Man on Earth, Gayngs, Gucci Mane(quality over quantity plz, enough f-ing mixtapes already), The National
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
― Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Monday, January 31, 2011 11:58 AM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark
nice! ILX, where no contestant goes home empty-handed.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
all good heuristics for guessing whether a particular individual likes the National
that's all i was going for! (well, and lolz)
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
Things that make me really go zzzzzz: ilxor posts
― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
They make some polite, kind of electronic-based, Swedish pop music with some '80s ghosts hovering in the background.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
another day on ilx, another deej zing to ilxor. get over yrself
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
deeeeeej
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
so much for less beef in 2011, amirite?
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
anyway: resume talking about albums, stop giving deej attention, plz
i haven't gone back to the national album a lot but i was really into it over the summer (and iirc, i voted for it on my ballot). there's a kind of epic desperation in the songs. esp love the "i still owe money to the money to the money i owe" which turns all my economic anxiety into something like a dirge.
― Mordy, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
i think we all rly need to meet for an irl drink, wd prevent these episodes
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
am v curious as to what my 2nd album is!
list skewed a lot weirder than i expected so far still mostly stuff i dont care abt tho
― Lamp, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
hah, think deej/whiney and think again
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
Is that it for today? Just getting warmed up. Listening to Third Eye Foundation, so far pretty darn good, love the way its so busy yet so calm. I doubt if it would make my 25 but it's a keeper.
Never got around to checking the new National, after wasting time on their earlier material. If this can't crack the top 60 I doubt if that will swing it for me.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote) Hey, that's that band Whiney really likes76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes) never heard of them, a few songs sound nice75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes) I downloaded this and listened to it maybe 3x. I liked "Whats My Name"74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes) I can't love this after hearing Glasser73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes) idk(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes) shrug(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes) I used to like that "I need your love" bit in "Can't Get You Out Of My Head"70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes) I tried to listen to this like 4x and always got distracted69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes) that one song rules! Maybe I should hear this68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes) They're okay. Had 0 interest in hearing this album67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes) zzzzngs66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes) yawn mane65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes) I rly, rly need to get into SGC64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes) iunno63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote) The Knife made an album this year??62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes) Haven't really paid attention since "Alligator" which was ok61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote) is this some metal shit?
― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:05 (fifteen years ago)
omg The National released a song called 'Runaway' too
poll
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:06 (fifteen years ago)
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes) I can't love this after hearing Glasser
this kinda makes sense! you could describle zola jesus as glasser - rhythmic complexity + goth. though i disagree w/ not being able to love both of them, as i do.
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:07 (fifteen years ago)
the national not a bad pick for latepassitis thread imo, alligator stands tall over their others but boxer was the crossover moment iirc
― ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:08 (fifteen years ago)
As far as Enslaved, I think the empath math kicks out a better similarity list:
http://furia.com/em/band104.html
0.219 17 Immortal0.188 10 Satyricon0.179 13 Gorgoroth0.154 8 Anathema0.153 5 Sólstafir0.143 9 Hypocrisy0.135 5 Altar of Plagues0.135 10 Amon Amarth0.128 8 13490.127 5 Kampfar0.126 8 Ulver0.123 5 Shining0.121 13 Darkthrone0.120 5 Cult of Luna0.117 7 Destruction0.117 6 Beherit
But both lists are talking about the band as a whole. Circa the last two albums a shorter description would be "a black-metal Pink Floyd".
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:11 (fifteen years ago)
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
stop
― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:11 (fifteen years ago)
i like the 2010 shining album and last 3 or so ulver ones, do those compare nicely or not?
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:12 (fifteen years ago)
*st0p*
― ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:12 (fifteen years ago)
I want to virtually staple this to deej's forehead so we can all point at it when he starts to pretend he's all innocent about attacking other people.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)
for chrissakes ignore them
― call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)
maybe he was talking about ilx in general
― ^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
lol ilxor you expect me to answer that one?! ;)
heeee um er er er the Ulver album it's most similar to is Bergtatt tbh. and the Shining album has a completely different aesthetic (jazzy industrial-pop noisefuck). really what it is, is melodic trad BM but with really gorgeous production and a sense of *spacious grandeur*, and proggy structures. it kicks ass.
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
I need to hear Beach Head. On Patrol was top 10 for me, love that album
― Dan S, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
dude posts too damn much & his opinions are, like, entirely content-freeim sure dude is a nice guy once he stops the posting diarrhea but its outta control & i say this w/ full self awareness that plenty of ppl dont like my posts here. but yeesh man. its just a constant stream
― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness -- good, but far from my favorite HM76. QUADRON — Quadron -- pretty! want to hear the rest75. RIHANNA — Loud -- eh, trax in the other poll were just okay74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II -- <3<3<3, but do agree that she could stand to push herself in the songwriting dept.73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark -- zzzzzzzzz71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt -- better than i'd like to admit, but nah71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite -- zzzzzzzzz70. WARPAINT — The Fool -- want to like them, but nothing on the album stands up to "elephant"69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol -- ! F U C K ! Y E S !68. NO AGE — Everything in Between -- zzzzzzzz67. GAYNGS — Relayted -- color me curious...66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 -- like basically everything i've heard off this mixtape, will DL65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi -- record of the year64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme -- nice. kinda of empty, but definitely easy on the ears63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year -- the best 2010 album i haven't heard yet?62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini -- rah, rah, like a dungeon dragon
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
I spoke too soon, onto the fourth track of the TEF album and it is really great.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
deej your bad posts are a self-fulfilling prophecy. at least i'm trying to talk about music (idiotically) when i make mine.
told ya dods, 'closure' is an emotional apotheosis to rule them all
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 -- like basically everything i've heard off this mixtape, will DL
this really isnt the best place to start imo -- im sure that even zone 6's backers would agree w/ that
― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
no offence deej but your posts are way more a constant stream than ilxors
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
id love to know ilxor and deej's postcounts mind you.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
Do we have to get into this?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
i have heard none of these albums
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:23 (fifteen years ago)