can't remember anything from the one song i listened to apart from a) the song was boring b) his voice was intolerable c) it sounded like it was recorded in a toilet, three rooms away
Now those are valid reasons not to listen to HtDW. I'm with Alex, though; I think the guy's got a fair amount of talent and could turn out some genuinely great more conventional R&B if he wanted to, and his heart is in the right place. He's honoring R&B, not sanitizing it.
kinda wish folks wouldnt worry about 'sensibilities' & worry more abt writing good songs bcuz when it comes down to it the affects of R&B dont matter like the songwriting does
Unfortunately, with HtDW the sensibilities and the songs are really one and the same... he deliberately slathers affects over his songs to render the lyrics indecipherable, so for better or worse his songs are more about mood than sentiment. That's a big part of why his album is so divisive.
― Evan R, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
ryan leslie already made 'gibberish'
― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link
thats a one-song gimmick imo
p4k interview said he was into black dice and the dream and that his work is abt the reciprocity b/w the dreams swirls of synth and black dice swirls of noise. its not bad rnb its lofi indie rooted in rnb, saying its badly produced if its tryna be rnb is missing the point
― plax (ico), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
you can have well-produced indie too! idk and tbh i don't care how r&b it's trying to be - though i think lilsoulbrother's complaint has a lot of merit when it comes to critical attention/praise that "lo-fi indie rooted in r&b" gets compared to actual r&b - b/c to me this (and gayngs too) fails on a really basic aural level.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
idk what is "well produced" tho?
― plax (ico), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
seems to me that it doesnt exist on a linear quality scale.
― plax (ico), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
well to me it excludes most "lo-fi". if it grates on my ears => it is badly-produced.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah well then i think yr gonna miss out on abt 50% of what this guy is doing which is spec. about those grating textures and kindof aleatoric dissonance. to say that its "badly produced" seems p unhelpful
― plax (ico), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
lex for the 90th time gayngs sounds 0% like contemporary R&B
― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Just to chip in, I don't hear much contempory R&B in HtDW, some late 80s/90s intonations in the tunes. Jam & Lewis style. Perhaps I'm wrong tho.
― mmmm, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i def hear the influence of smthng like lovevmoney pt2 in decisions
― plax (ico), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, what it boils down to is this. His favourite shit of 2010 is Egyptrixx, Deadboy, Wiz Khalifa, Ciara, The-Dream, Gucci, Girl Unit, Forest Swords, Waka & Teengirl Fantasy + a bunch of metal thread shit. Dude is impeccable taste-wise imo - the dead centre of ILX goons/R&B stans/UK bass/metal rolling thread denizens and channels all of that in various ways. I like it, some people don't, but dude isn't limited to his lo-fi stuff (the three or four mixes he's done for Fader/The Wire/somewhere else have been pretty good). If he ends up working with Cassie, he's enough of a fan of her stuff + her vocals to know what to do with them.
― Alex in Montreal, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link
An excerpt from what Tyler, the Creator posted on a neptunes forum about Cassie "Hide":
“fuck. shit is fucking crazy. so much has happnd in the past couple days. i talked to pharrell for like an hour. knowing that my hero is a fucking fan is fucking crazy! i asked him a couple questions that fans would ask. like about that Cassie track HIDE….that shit is not coming out, from what he told me..."
Well at least I have my 1 minute snippet :( :( :(
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 12 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
It's so frustrating being a fan of hers. She is the quintessential artist in limbo.
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Saturday, 12 March 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
And don't forget disappointment as well. If she doesn't release this album this year I'm just going to give up.
R&B and label politics is so fucking frustrating. Plus the neptunes are such hoarders of their stuff. They aren't as popular as they were in the early 00's. They should be doing what Kanye, Swizz, and Timbaland are doing but they have delusion of grandeur.
(Apologies for the rant in the future.)
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 12 March 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Teen Vogue: Nothing like a little music to get the party started. One of my favorite tracks on Cassie's ipad playlist was her own: her new single Bougie S*%t. "Yep, that's how it's spelling," she says. "I looked it up on the Urban Dictionary. It's a girl power song. It's just very honest," she says. "I like to talk from experience. You know, I'm a girl in my twenties. I've been in and out of love. There are lots of girls who have different stories--I just speak from my point of view."
also she is recording w/ ryan leslie again
― maybe i'm just gay (Tape Store), Thursday, 31 March 2011 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I read this and got a little hopeful.
― lilsoulbrother, Thursday, 31 March 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
ok ok NEWS
so in June issue of Nylon, it says Cassie's album is coming out this summer. Doesn't have a title yet!
Her favorite song off it is called "Lonely Disco Ball" ("which is about the end of the night when the party is done and everybody has left.")
Cassie (discussing the album): “It’s a cool blend of pop, hip-hop, and ska. It’s urban Gwen Stefani meets Aaliyah. I hate referencing people but if you had to compare, that’s it.”
― love you like a frat kid loves Cake (Tape Store), Monday, 6 June 2011 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
ska?????
― just sayin, Monday, 6 June 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link
officialcas Cassie Listening to my single... is a really satisfying feeling. Can't wait for everyone to hear.
― love you like a frat kid loves Cake (Tape Store), Saturday, 18 June 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
How much longer?????????
― Tape Store, Sunday, June 8, 2008 7:06 AM (3 years ago)
― The Brainwasher, Sunday, 19 June 2011 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/NeverEndingStory/Images/NeverEndingStory-DVD.jpg
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 19 June 2011 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Um... according to Wikipedia, Jason Derulo wrote "My House"
o_O
I feel very conflicted right now
― rosa parks did not sit on that bus for this shit (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 30 June 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
"My House" is literally one of my favourite songs of all time and i will never ever believe that that is true
― uberweiss, Thursday, 30 June 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
cassie is the new face of carol's daughter
― j lol (surm), Thursday, 30 June 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i get to see her on big posters coming home
― j lol (surm), Thursday, 30 June 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
http://projectlifedesign.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/candle_burning_single.jpg
Bad Boy held a listening party at LA club ThomThom last night. Some of Cassie's new tracks were also played. (Un)fortunately there is nothing at Youtube yet.
― ✇ (Tape Store), Monday, 11 July 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
(via CassieVerse)
Why can't they just release a mixtape or an EP? Give us something. I can't tell how many Wynter Gordon EP's are out there and no one knows who she is.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
new track in this clip sounds DOPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LnIkeClzx4&feature=player_embedded
(getting promo emails i don't ever give a shit about finally pays off)
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
that song is old :(
though if it is on the album that'd be dope
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
:[
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Lol "the album". Keep holding your breath, CFC!
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
She is too beautiful.
― ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Last Song for the album has been recorded:
http://goo.gl/3ftWu
Cassie records last song for album.D'angelo's doing mixing for his album.Lauryn Hill just doing interviews in general.
Maybe 2012 is the end of the world after all?
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Assuming of course 2012 is the year a single will be released by these people.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
two new songs on the new badboy mixtape!! http://www.datpiff.com/DJ-Prostyle-Diddy-Bad-Boy-The-Preview-mixtape.262920.html
"radio" and a HQ version of "make you a believer"
― uberweiss, Saturday, 3 September 2011 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
hi nobody. a leak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpBhT8B8sQ&fmt=18
"don't lose it"
glorious chorus. dunno about these verses yet
― uberweiss, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link
oh it's unfinished.
anyway how bout that "radio" huh???
― uberweiss, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I think "Radio" has a good concept to it though I don't think it is executed perfectly. It's just nice to hear a new song from her. Plus, "Make You A Believer" sounds very sexy. The line "Do you want to ride?" sounds eerily similar to Janet Jackson's "Rollercoaster."
Also, I was similarly concerned/lol'ed at this post:
http://goo.gl/b1wuy
I don't want her music leaking again too, but damn talk about being too much of a fan.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link
we've waited since 2007. the moment is almost here. i'm just like...wow. <3
http://soundcloud.com/3xs/cas-koh
― ✇ (Tape Store), Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I just hope they go the Dirty Money route and just let the album (if it will be released) grow some legs. It won't be a big blockbuster but if she has this so called indie cult then it will be a nice coup for her in those circles.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah can already hear the Nguzunguzu, etc. remixes to this. sound dope.
― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 8 September 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Wasn't madly in love with Radio, but quite like King of Hearts.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 9 September 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/officialcas/king-of-hearts-r3hab-remix
Official remix of King of Hearts. Original version out in 6 days.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
"King of Hearts" is out in full now. LOVE IT.
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
the production is very subtle
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
LINK
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 February 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.sinternet.com/dman_preview.html#id=album-3144&num=content-5967
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link