just annoys me that there will be albums of lesser exposure outside of the 77 with a small but utterly passionate following and yet the ILM consensus ropes in the usual suspects
apart from that, am eager to discover new things here!
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
Didn't get into the Rihanna album at all. Rated R is still one of the albums I play a lot from 2009 but apart from the singles I found Loud really forgettable.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:40 (fifteen years ago)
lex: ever figured that she may just be happier?
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:40 (fifteen years ago)
made it as far as a drake verse. dunno if it would be worth going further.
the albums placing right now are getting 8-12 votes, i think that counts as a small and enthusiastic following - unless you want albums that only like 3 people rep for to place? i don't like loud but i know of a few people who really do.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
but then it's not the first time a pop act has followed in introspective, dark and somewhat daring effort with a safe, conservative follow-up
yeah, i really need to lower my expectations when a pop artist releases their most daring & interesting work and just accept their next album is going to be a bit rubbish, as history shows.
― prolego, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
oh sure, it's just the way it cleaves to the most obvious pop trends is really uninspired.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
There'll be a load of stuff with a small and passionate following, 77 is a lot of albums, and 75th place is really low for a pop star of Rihanna's standing.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
Quadron album isn't nearly as interesting as it wants to be.
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
it's hard to be creative when you're happy. not even joking.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
an album that kind of hangs in the heat and just shimmers slightly.
Listening a bit more I can sort of see this, there are some subtle touches that are really nice, but it does definitely get lost in a bit of a middle-of-the-road drippiness at times.
― emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
― ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
how many points did the #1 album get?
― prolego, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
Happy Rihanna >>>> Angry Rihanna
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
fwiw i think the quadron is a real summer album - i haven't gone back to it once since the weather got cold
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
would like to see a passionate defence of the rihanna album. then would like to suggest a change to the weighted voting structure - first place 50 points, second 40, third 30, fourth 25 then 5 onwards is 20-1
an album that 5 or 6 people rep for but that they all rep HARD for is worthy of a place in the poll imo
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
if Happy Rihanna = "if it's lovin' that you want", "umbrella", "pon de replay" and "break it off", sure.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
Harvey Milk: I like this in theory, but lack the attention span to make it throughQuadron: The vocals are not my thingRhianna: I like the couple tracks I've heard, but probably not enough to spend a lot of time with the album.
― Moodles, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
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74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)P&J: 233rdPitchfork: 37thSpotify: listen
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
This is the laziest bullshit position ever.
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
LJ i don't think that would do much except encourage collusion and 'strategic voting' even more
― ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:45 (fifteen years ago)
umbrella doesn't so much happy as hard and defiant. which is what rihanna does best!
― prolego, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
wait for real? Just you, or, like, everyone ever?
― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
A SB that 5 or 6 people rep for but that they all rep HARD for is worthy of a place in the hole imo
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
Wow, thought Zola Jesus had a bigger following than that. She strikes me as a singer who really needs to work with some decent electronic producers - amazing voice, decent songwriting, really boring samey generic synth backing.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
there was a lot of complaining recently in the P&J thread about "indie" voters who lazily rubberstamp songs from their album favorites onto their singles ballot. is there a similar sense of frustration with pop voters who rubberstamp shoddy/uneven albums simply because they happen to include few beloved tracks?
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
Stridulum EP probably gets more votes than this one...
― skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
The idea that nine people on this board might sincerely like that Rihanna album is being foolishly dismissed here.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
zola jesus is p terrible you guys
― Lamp, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
I managed to not hear much Zola Jesus solo last year (heard a few collaborations), so let's give this a go...
Hmm, gothy.
― emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
is there a similar sense of frustration with pop voters who rubberstamp shoddy/uneven albums simply because they happen to include few beloved tracks?
it would if it wasn't as low as #75!
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
We housed everything with the Stridulum II nomination (since it includes all of Stridulum and most of the Valusia EP).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
Surprised to see the album here but not Night in the tracks poll. It feels like I only need one Zola Jesus song to get the whole idea.
― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
Zola Jesus cover is <3 - Have no idea what this will sound like but I'm excited. Is their name a dedication to 'Franco?
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
Didn't vote for the Zola Jesus cos some of it wasn't really all that, but some of the tracks are just fine by me:
Sea Talk
I Can't Stand
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:51 (fifteen years ago)
Wow...sounds like the rest of ILM was as meh toward her as I am.
― skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:51 (fifteen years ago)
If pop fans hadn't voted for Rihanna, I bet Sylvester Anfang II would be #75 with a bullet. Or not.
― emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:51 (fifteen years ago)
― Matt DC, Monday, January 31, 2011 8:47 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark
glad to see zola jesus place. her thread never got a lot of attention, so i didn't think that she had much of a chance. i'm conflicted about the "decent electronic producers" suggestion, because, yeah, i wouldn't be surprised and it could certainly help her rope in fans. but i genuinely love her early recordings, when that huge voice is just buried in a lo-fi ambient-industrial cloud.
― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Monday, January 31, 2011 8:50 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah, that's the way i figured it'd go.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
Tbh, I thought Surm was the only one who was huge on that Rihanna album.
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:46 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
Just personal experience. And I guess it fits the desperate/starving artist stereotype too.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
From what I heard of Zola Jesus, I wasn't sold. I'm on the fence about the minimal synth revival. Sometimes it works, sometimes it sounds like an excuse to sing lazily over a bad Yamaha rhythm.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:53 (fifteen years ago)
"is there a similar sense of frustration with pop voters who rubberstamp shoddy/uneven albums simply because they happen to include few beloved tracks?"
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, January 31, 2011 8:50 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
wasn't directing that at the rihanna album specifically, just at the discussion about it. it's a general question.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:54 (fifteen years ago)
terrible LJ posts itt
― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:54 (fifteen years ago)
wait haha wasn't zola jesus a massive DiS favourite
splains a lot, listening to it now. DARKCHILLWITCHWAVEHOUSESTEPTHING
deej if it's any consolation I think you're one of the worst ILM posters full stop, nsb
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
Quite liked the first two tracks on the Zola Jesus album, got bored and stopped halfway through the third.
― emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
zola jesus really reminded me of ladyhawke voice-wise
it's hard to be creative when you're happy is probably very true for some people and not at all for others - the end.
― idgi fridays (blueski), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
Don't think you could really file Zola Jesus under 'lazy singing' dog latin.
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:56 (fifteen years ago)
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73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)P&J: 497thPitchfork: DNPSpotify: listen
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:56 (fifteen years ago)
honestly so surprised that anyone has time for that rihanna album...it's so lazy and tossed-together and inadequate. kind of like "hello pop listeners! you can forget that Angry Rihanna ever existed! there is only Happy Rihanna!" except it's way too forced and heavy-handed to actually succeed in the same way that her old sunny reggae stuff did. i guess "only girl (in the world)" is, er, really catchy?― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, January 31, 2011 10:33 AM (18 minutes ago)
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, January 31, 2011 10:33 AM (18 minutes ago)
lex embarrasingly otm ^^
that zola jesus comp is great, i love both stridulum and valusia, and "sea talk" ended up squeaking into the bottom part of my tracks list
lol does this stand for "no suggest ban"?? classic!
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:57 (fifteen years ago)
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:57 (fifteen years ago)