I suppose I should go to this, what with it being literally right up the road from me.
― Doomsday Derelict (J3ff T.), Saturday, 29 January 2011 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
I approve of this cake. And damned right you should go, Jeff. I'm staying with a couple of friends nearby for the weekend.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 January 2011 21:58 (fifteen years ago)
Seems like there should be anthologies of EMP papers...
― dow, Saturday, 29 January 2011 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
Annual series, dammit.
― dow, Saturday, 29 January 2011 22:19 (fifteen years ago)
There actually have been two collections so far!
I only just realized yesterday how many panels and presentations I'll inevitably miss. Triple and quadruple booking is busy enough, but quintuple, dang. My notes this year will be even more of a brief impression of the whole than ever.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 January 2011 22:22 (fifteen years ago)
don, the thing i read in seattle at the conference is gonna be in the emp book coming out this year. duke university press. i don't know when its coming out though.
― scott seward, Saturday, 29 January 2011 22:26 (fifteen years ago)
Just dropping in to make sure you all know that the Thursday before EMP, a bunch of the folks from the EMP proceedings will be doing the pop/gender/sexuality/professionalism conference Work It! at USC. Details here: http://workitconference.blogspot.com/
It's free, there's lunch, and it is going to help frame some of the discussions that go on all weekend. Hope some ILX folks come.
Best-DaphC.
― The Daphinatrix, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:44 (fifteen years ago)
Is there an archive of any of these papers available to read online? I wish these presentations were filmed and available to view afterwards.
― musicfanatic, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:47 (fifteen years ago)
They've tried to make archives before, but there's no one central deposit of them. So many people end up using the work for freelance or scholarly articles or even books, it would be hard, I imagine, to have such an archive.
― The Daphinatrix, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:51 (fifteen years ago)
The presentations from last year's conference are going up on iTunes U shortly -- I know this having received a note about it earlier this year. But mine was already long up on YouTube so hey.
And heya there Daphne! Won't be able to make Thursday, sadly, but anyone else who can go really should do so!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:55 (fifteen years ago)
Oh cool re: the iTunes U thing, but they didn't ask your permission to record the talks first? Hmm. I wonder if they'll do it this year, since the change in venue is bound to cause some chaos.
And, hi Ned! And ILM. I'm usually lurching, sorry. It's BMW season so I shouldn't be doing anything else but work work work.
― The Daphinatrix, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:58 (fifteen years ago)
they didn't ask your permission to record the talks first?
Oh they did, and specifically referred to that in the note to me; I remember signing the release. So if someone didn't sign theirs presumably it won't go up.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:59 (fifteen years ago)
Btw, I will be in attendance for this.
― Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 03:24 (fifteen years ago)
:-D
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 03:29 (fifteen years ago)
glad this is on a weekend, i will make some of it at least
― buzza, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 03:58 (fifteen years ago)
Just a quick note that a slew of the 2010 presentations are now live on iTunesU.
http://bit.ly/eCug4u
And of course looking forward to seeing everyone next week! I'm planning on being at UCLA pretty much early Friday afternoon.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
Can only go on Sunday, but going nonetheless. Thank goodness I live near UCLA so it would be easy for me to get there. Looking forward to it.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
would love to go but i have a friend in town this weekend :(
― brigitte beardo (donna rouge), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:40 (fifteen years ago)
I know what it means to party like a rockstar, but what does it mean to party like a music critic?
― Doomsday Derelict (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:44 (fifteen years ago)
The drink level is about the same from what I can tell.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:44 (fifteen years ago)
Presumably there are less groupies.
― Doomsday Derelict (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
But critics have Twitter!
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:50 (fifteen years ago)
I assume it's a lot like this:http://farm1.static.flickr.com/15/18909607_ee51edc31d.jpg?v=0
― Poll Man River: The Jerome Kern Poll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
Speaking from experience:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/2007_Pop_Conf_afterparty_03.jpg/800px-2007_Pop_Conf_afterparty_03.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
Rock critics live blog their encounters with groupies.
― Cunga, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:00 (fifteen years ago)
so gonna happen
― Poll Man River: The Jerome Kern Poll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)
oh yeah, and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6bARIaMhCM
― Cunga, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:09 (fifteen years ago)
just look over your shoulder
― Poll Man River: The Jerome Kern Poll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:10 (fifteen years ago)
Hey, that's my beret between Ned and the Dean!
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:11 (fifteen years ago)
Guess that makes you Lucky... ah never mind.
― Poll Makossa (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:15 (fifteen years ago)
My most vivid memory from last year's final-night party was the weird yet adorable painting of a chubby Hispanic boy hanging over the bar. The guy there said it has its own Facebook group.
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Friday, 18 February 2011 05:20 (fifteen years ago)
i am sitting just behind alfred's beret in that picture, i think.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 18 February 2011 06:28 (fifteen years ago)
^ Thanks Ned for the Itunes link! Cool pic with the Dean.
― musicfanatic, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
Holy crap, there's a ton of these talks! Any highlights?
― musicfanatic, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
writing my thing! it's fun! now if i can just remember how long these things are supposed to be... how many words do humans speak in a minute?
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 February 2011 22:57 (fifteen years ago)
you don't want to go over 17 minutes/20 minutes at the absolute outer edge. So practice reading your writing aloud SLOWLY and see how many pages-per-minute you're at. It varies. One conference "pro tip" (jk): it can help to write a conference talk with a 'detachable tail', i.e. a possible ending that is three pages before your "real"/ideal ending- if things are running late, you can have this option as a way to get your primary point in but not go rudely past your time. Etiquette about overspill at conferences is crucial.
― the tune is space, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:28 (fifteen years ago)
What the tune just said. Lord knows I rehearsed and refined mine quite a few times to make sure I got within the limit.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:48 (fifteen years ago)
when i did the emp thing in 2007 i had to skip a section toward the end cuzza time but it worked out pretty good! it was totally skippable.
the thing i'm writing now, man, i could go forever. so i'll have to be good and prune stuff.
drew, have you done one of these? the emp conference thing? too bad you are on the other side of the country now. would be cool if you could come.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:21 (fifteen years ago)
The best piece of advice I received last year (my first one) was "FINISH YOUR PAPER BEFORE YOU GET THERE." A couple of people I hung out with had been frantically completing theirs in a hotel room at first and feeling frazzled/miserable until they did so.
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Monday, 21 February 2011 05:33 (fifteen years ago)
xpost to scott, yeah I've done it many times, it's totally fun
1st time: talked about Germs burns and Darby Crash2nd time: talked about Lynyrd Skynyrd and slavery3rd time: talked about queer minstrelsy (The Meatmen, The Frogs, etc.)
plus I was on some panels (including the infamous one with Stephin Merritt about which you can websearch if you wanna know more)
it's such a great conference, people are sweet and you get good questions during Q+A
the only sucky part is that there are too many good things at the same time so it's kinda torture to choose what you do
wish that I was going, would love to hang
but now that I'm a renaissance lit professor I can't do too many music conferences per year and I already spoke at the black metal theory symposium so that was my music talk for 2011
― the tune is space, Monday, 21 February 2011 05:52 (fifteen years ago)
This weekend's weather looks terrible. At least I won't feel guilty for spending so much time indoors.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:32 (fifteen years ago)
i was really worried that i wouldn't have enough material for 20 minutes, and then i finally wrote it up over the weekend and read it out loud and lol it was 35. so i'm frantically hacking away.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
Not sure what the food situation will be like around Royce Hall for the weekend, or at least for lunch. Guess we'll all find out together.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
the andy zax thing on itunes U is amazing -- bizarre reprise/warners radio ad spots.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
Utterly stellar, one of last year's highlights, even more amazing live.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
would love to get the CDR he mentions at the end! hint hint.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:48 (fifteen years ago)
You never know. (Are you attending?)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
nah, i seriously considered it, but couldn't make it work. someday!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
YA BETTER.
It is really great fun. I am going to be exhausted as all hell by Sunday evening though.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
well, the move to LA is a step in the right direction in re: to me actually coming to an EMP. is that a permanent-type thing?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:06 (fifteen years ago)