I hate gays, gangbangers, and fuckin vampires.
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Friday, 28 January 2011 09:11 (fifteen years ago)
(But seriously vampire boy is terrible.)
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Friday, 28 January 2011 09:12 (fifteen years ago)
I like "Wut" and rather like Lunice's "Hitmane Anthem" which seems to be the biggest-hyped post-"Wut" track, but it's kind off strange to see this sound emerging as a fully-fledged trend. One track in a DJ set with these psuedo southern rap beats would be the maximum sustainable I would have thought. OTOH I'm not so into DJ sets where the nature of the beat keeps changing up so maybe it's for the best that it becomes its own thing?
I haven't seen the "Dynamite" video, it's really a car radio song for me. Most Guetta-ish material sounds best of all via car radio (though whether that means it actually sounds good is a different question - on a case by case really). "Who's That Chick" works excellently in that context too, which I would never have imagined when I first listened for review purposes.
― Tim F, Friday, 28 January 2011 09:36 (fifteen years ago)
it's really a car radio song for me. Most Guetta-ish material sounds best of all via car radio (though whether that means it actually sounds good is a different question - on a case by case really). "Who's That Chick" works excellently in that context too, which I would never have imagined when I first listened for review purposes.
^^^v v otm
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Friday, 28 January 2011 09:38 (fifteen years ago)
Also the other thing I've just realised about this poll is NO JAMES BLAKE. HIGH FIVES ALL.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 January 2011 09:44 (fifteen years ago)
ha! yes i realised that last night too
― just sayin, Friday, 28 January 2011 09:52 (fifteen years ago)
yeah good thing u all saved two spots for kesha and like eight for taylor swift
― plax (ico), Friday, 28 January 2011 09:54 (fifteen years ago)
could not possibly ever be moved to feel shame by plax's disapproval itt tbh
― Tim F, Friday, 28 January 2011 09:56 (fifteen years ago)
No Die AntwoordNo SalemNo YeasayerNo The NationalNo James BlakeNo Deerhunter
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 28 January 2011 09:57 (fifteen years ago)
why is non-ukfunky dance the most un-danceable stuff always
actually get why in isolation, and out of a club context, people wouldn't think "wut" is danceable, but in every set i've heard it's used to rupture a set, to take it suddenly up to another level rather than keep the same groove going. the moment when the bass drops is incredibly danceable, which you probably don't get on a youtube. anyway british non-uk funky dance that's more traditionally danceable -
ikonika - psoriasisfunkineven - heart pound ( <= the one song that, if i could redo my ballot, i'd put on or near the top, and that i'd rep for a lot more on ilm - ACID)jam city - arpjamt.williams ft. terri walker - heartbeatikonika - they are all losing the warjoy orbison - ladywellfloating points - people's potentialdeadboy - if u want mebraiden - the alpsdoorly ft. lady chann - the oneoptimum - crash riddim
idk if you don't find any of those compulsively danceable the problem is with you.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 09:58 (fifteen years ago)
also comparing girl unit and james blake, and knowing the latter is where indie audiences and critics are actually throwing their weight, just makes me even prouder of ilm for putting "wut" top
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 09:59 (fifteen years ago)
actually get why in isolation, and out of a club context, people wouldn't think "wut" is danceable, but in every set i've heard it's used to rupture a set, to take it suddenly up to another level rather than keep the same groove going.
yeah I thought this was the idea which is why I'm wondering how this style will translate as a full-blown "thing".
― Tim F, Friday, 28 January 2011 10:01 (fifteen years ago)
"Wut" is much better obv but to be fair I think that these are still 90% the same audience at this point.
what i meant was that james blake is going beyond that core audience to the mainstream/indie press in a way that girl unit isn't (and within that common original audience there are pleeeeeenty of james blake detractors; i can see him becoming much more of a nme/pfork fave rather than someone djs and producers get excited over)
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 10:04 (fifteen years ago)
Okay I agree with that.
― Tim F, Friday, 28 January 2011 10:09 (fifteen years ago)
Not that it matters particularly, but I think Girl Unit is, long term, more likely to become an NME tip than James Blake, especially if he starts working with vocalists. There's probably a Blake backlash coming quite soon. Jam City more likely than both of them.
You can tell that Wut is intended for the dancefloor because it has AIRHORN NOISES. End of debate.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 January 2011 10:12 (fifteen years ago)
You can tell that Wut is intended for the dancefloor because it has AIRHORN NOISES.
Pretty solid argument tbh.
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Friday, 28 January 2011 10:19 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks J0rdan, JF and seandelai! Really enjoyed watching this unfold. Not heard either #1 or #2 yet. But I already had plans to remedy that.
― Jeff W, Friday, 28 January 2011 11:22 (fifteen years ago)
Oh and a request: any chance of posting a list of the results for some of the runners up here in list form? (Just #78-#200 would do!) Or make the results available as a text file like the noms list? As you know, some of us can't access google.spreadsheets.com @ work.
― Jeff W, Friday, 28 January 2011 11:24 (fifteen years ago)
78 Glasser Mirrorage79 MIA XXXO80 Beach House Norway81 young jeezy lose my mind (ft. plies)82 alicia keys try sleeping with a broken heart83 Magnetic Man Perfect Stranger (ft. Katy B)84 yg toot it & boot it85 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti Can't Hear My Eyes86 Mark McGuire Brothers (for Matt)87 yahzarah why dontcha call me no more88 Far East Movement Like a G689 Underworld Always Loved a Film90 Robyn Don't Fucking Tell Me What To Do91 Best Coast Boyfriend91 trey songz bottoms up (ft. nicki minaj)93 The Books A Cold Freezin' Night94 Zola Jesus Night95 Sleigh Bells Tell 'Em95 The-Dream F.I.L.A.97 Owen Pallett Lewis Takes Off His Shirt98 Sky Ferreira One99 Deerhunter Desire Lines100 Gorillaz On Melancholy Hill101 Oneohtrix Point Never Returnal (ft. Antony Hegarty)102 kingdom mind reader (ft. shyvonne)103 M.I.A. Space104 The Chemical Brothers Swoon105 dj zinc wile out (ft. ms dynamite)106 Taylor Swift Enchanted107 Warpaint Undertow108 Lady Gaga Alejandro109 Goldfrapp Rocket (original)110 Bubble Club Violet Morning Moon111 underworld scribble112 Gil Scott-Heron New York Is Killing Me112 School of Seven Bells Windstorm112 The Crystal Ark The City Never Sleeps115 Gorillaz Empire Ants116 hot chip i feel better117 Janelle Monae Oh, Maker118 Gorillaz Stylo119 James Blake CMYK120 Glasser Apply121 Autechre r ess121 Tracey Thorn Oh The Divorces123 Rangda Plain of Jars124 Yelawolf Pop the Trunk125 Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom Track 5125 Kingdom Fogs127 sleigh bells infinity guitars128 Curren$y King Kong129 Lindstrom and Christabelle High and Low129 Mark E You (Full Vocal Mix)129 School of Seven Bells Heart Is Strange129 Yeasayer O.N.E.133 Ciara Gimmie Dat134 earl sweatshirt epaR135 The National Bloodbuzz Ohio136 Marnie Stern For Ash137 Miranda Lambert The House That Built Me138 Jam City Arpjam139 Kylie Minogue Get Outta My Way140 Katy Perry California Gurls (ft. Snoop Dogg)141 husalah you neva know142 Oni Ayhun OAR004-A142 rick ross super high remix (remix ft. wiz khalifa & curren$y)144 cali swag district teach me how to dougie145 Kvelertak Mjød145 The Fresh & Onlys Waterfall147 Kelis 4th of July (Fireworks)148 Deerhunter Helicopter149 storm queen look right through150 Adele Rolling in the Deep150 Rihanna Hard152 Vampire Weekend Taxi Cab153 Ciara Speechless (ft. The-Dream)154 Janelle Monae Wondaland155 Joy Orbison BRKLN CLLN155 Taylor Swift The Story of Us157 Perfume Natural Ni Koi Shite158 wild nothing summer holiday159 My Chemical Romance Na Na Na160 Hallogallo 2010 Drone Schlager161 james blake limit to your love162 Paramore The Only Exception162 Vampire Weekend Cousins164 The Radio Dept. Heaven's on Fire164 We Love No Plane, No Train166 Oneohtrix Point Never Pelham Island Road167 Goldfrapp Alive168 Vampire Weekend I Think Ur A Contra168 Yeasayer Ambling Alp170 Diddy-Dirty Money I Hate That You Love Me170 Dominique Leone 40/60172 The Fall Bury Pts. 1 + 3173 Daft Punk Derezzed173 Joker Tron175 Demdike Stare Forest of Evil (dawn)175 Gucci Mane You Know What It Is177 Robyn Cry When You Get Older177 waka flocka flame luv them gun sounds179 Zola Jesus Sea Talk180 Ramadanman Don’t Change For Me180 Tyler, The Creator AssMilk (ft. Earl)182 Shy Child Dark Destiny182 The Bug Skeng (Autechre Remix)182 Triptykon Shatter185 Four Tet Angel Echoes185 ne-yo one in a million187 Mock & Toof Farewell to Wendo187 New Pornographers Crash Years187 Wild Nothing Golden Haze190 How to Dress Well Decisions (ft. Yüksel Arslan)190 Roll Deep Green Light (Ill Blu Remix)192 Of Montreal Famine Affair192 Teengirl Fantasy Cheaters194 Mary Kate & Ashley Olson Gimme Pizza Slow195 Kurt Vile Invisibility: Nonexistent196 lil boosie top to the bottom197 Delorean Stay Close197 Zinja Hlungwani N'wagezani My Love199 Kayo Dot Stained Glass200 Andre Nickatina & The Jacka My Middle Name is Crime
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 11:40 (fifteen years ago)
Oof, Mirrorage
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 28 January 2011 11:48 (fifteen years ago)
"mirrorage" is obv amazing but i'm not bothered about it just missing, b/c i expect the album to have a very good showing next week.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 11:49 (fifteen years ago)
lol at no national track until 135 btw. even the third single off the ciara album beat it.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 11:50 (fifteen years ago)
Out of those, I think I voted for:
91 trey songz bottoms up (ft. nicki minaj)93 The Books A Cold Freezin' Night95 Sleigh Bells Tell 'Em117 Janelle Monae Oh, Maker119 James Blake CMYK121 Autechre r ess124 Yelawolf Pop the Trunk161 james blake limit to your love192 Of Montreal Famine Affair
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 28 January 2011 11:57 (fifteen years ago)
4 of my votes are in the dozen or so after the cutoff :/
― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Friday, 28 January 2011 12:04 (fifteen years ago)
I'm especially sad that Oh, Maker didn't make it and Cold War did. Sure, it's kind of schmaltzy and maudling, but in a perfect lump-in-the-throat way.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 28 January 2011 12:11 (fifteen years ago)
ta, Lex :)
― Jeff W, Friday, 28 January 2011 12:18 (fifteen years ago)
i dont understand how the ballots were weighted, certain things are listed as having 44 points but one vote
― plax (ico), Friday, 28 January 2011 12:20 (fifteen years ago)
= one fourth place vote in a weighted ballot?
― Jeff W, Friday, 28 January 2011 12:27 (fifteen years ago)
78 Glasser Mirrorage83 Magnetic Man Perfect Stranger (ft. Katy B)102 kingdom mind reader (ft. shyvonne)104 The Chemical Brothers Swoon105 dj zinc wile out (ft. ms dynamite)110 Bubble Club Violet Morning Moon111 underworld scribble116 hot chip i feel better190 Roll Deep Green Light (Ill Blu Remix)
Voted for this lot, really surprised at Scribble and I Feel Better both placing below Violet Morning Moon.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 January 2011 12:37 (fifteen years ago)
Wut winning this year makes me wonder if "Windowlicker" could have won an ILM poll in the year it came out.
― Tim F, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:00 (fifteen years ago)
Alt. maybe it means I should start the campaign for this to win next year's poll.
― Tim F, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:05 (fifteen years ago)
"windowlicker" seems fairly ilm canon to me (though er i'm not sure i've ever actually heard it myself)
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 13:09 (fifteen years ago)
im sure you would have
― just sayin, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:17 (fifteen years ago)
There'd have been some stiff competition - Baby One More Time, No Scrubs, Hey Boy Hey Girl, Genie In A Bottle, Bills Bills Bills.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:26 (fifteen years ago)
poll
― zvookster, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:33 (fifteen years ago)
Baby One More Time, No Scrubs, Hey Boy Hey Girl, Genie In A Bottle, Bills Bills Bills.
looking at these makes me so fucking sad about chart pop in 2010.
dorian noted it upthread, but i think this is the first ilm list that doesn't have multiple pop smashes at and near the top - "rude boy" is the only one that counts, really. but what's worse is that i can't really think of any that SHOULD have been up there.
"telephone" and "rude boy" (and "try sleeping with a broken heart" i guess) - all hangovers from 2009 albums, pretty sure gaga and alicia would have been higher w/o that"pass out" and "katy on a mission" - placed but too british-interest to go higher"whip my hair" and "hold yuh" could have placed higher i guess. katy and ke$ha are way more divisive (among pop fans i mean, not just people who dislike most chart pop) than any of the '99 crop you cite.
i can't really think of any other chart pop hit that "should" have been on the list.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 13:38 (fifteen years ago)
Ah was "Windowlicker" 1999? It feels more recent than that. It wouldn't be my number 1 obv ("Bugaboo"/"Bills Bills Bills" or "Jump & Shout" or "All 'n' my Grill" perhaps, would have to think on it) but I reckon it's great.
― Tim F, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:41 (fifteen years ago)
katy and ke$ha are way more divisive (among pop fans i mean, not just people who dislike most chart pop) than any of the '99 crop you cite.
You're saying this from a comfortable position of 11 years' hindsight. Britney and Xtina would have been considerably more divisive in 1999.
Actually I think the Windowlicker video alone would probably ensure a 2000-post 'OMG' thread which might have been enough to push it over the top.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:41 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah most people were pretty down on Britney until "Oops" at the earliest, some people liked "Genie In A Bottle" by comparison but after that Xtina was a joke to most people until her second album also.
Destiny's Child weren't divisive really but (despite having chart hits) I don't think people who weren't absolute pop/R&B fans started to notice them until "Say My Name" which came out in early 2000 IIRC.
― Tim F, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:47 (fifteen years ago)
It was in the top 10 in that 1990s singles poll we had a few years ago, so probably.
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:47 (fifteen years ago)
Hadn't heard 'Wut' before, it's nice and I feel the vibe, but after a couple of listens I can only deem it a completely forgettable number one. Which is a shame.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 28 January 2011 13:49 (fifteen years ago)
Especially considering that in 1999 there hadn't yet (as far as I can remember) been a big backlash against IDM.
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:50 (fifteen years ago)
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yeah i know britney and xtina were mocked by many who just didn't have time for the idea or sound of manufactured pop at all, but katy and ke$ha seem to get significant hate from actual pop fans too.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 13:52 (fifteen years ago)
I'm thinking about making this an excelsior:
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― last night a Drugs A. Money saved my life (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 28 January 2011 13:58 (fifteen years ago)
im a pop fan who thinks that genie in a bottle is abject trash
― plax (ico), Friday, 28 January 2011 14:00 (fifteen years ago)
Genie on tap or gtfo
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 28 January 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)
Excellent work Nick.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 January 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)
I don't get it?
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 January 2011 14:04 (fifteen years ago)