thanks alex! i struggled to articulate it for a couple months too; that was basically a transcription of a prepared speech.
curren$y definitely has more money than me but this thread's about kanye west -- and anyway all i meant was that the stuff curren$y brags about doing is often stuff any 22-year-old slacker could do with a day off and some weed money. (except for when he claims to be flying on planes where everyone is high, which i don't think he has enough money for.) he just acts like it's really awesome and rarefied. which it is!
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
weird that this thread was close by,
thinking about the ramones made me dislike this album even more, because it reminds me how much they accomplished with so little and how little this album accomplishes with so much
it's like the opposite of what hip hop meant to me, the way that an amazing beat and amazing rapper could really just knock you out.
― smang a goon (get it on) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
h3lg brings *law*
― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
kanyewest: I just threw some kazoo on this bitch
I know what he means but at first I imagined him flinging kazoos at some poor old lady
― door to door legume salesman (San Te), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa @ rihanna's outfit in the "all of the lights" video
http://www.vevo.com/watch/kanye-west/all-of-the-lights/USUV71002949
― chilli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
re: video. no fergie, no cred.
― Alex in Montreal, Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
video sucks, aside from rihanna's rack
― teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't really like how they changed up the choruses and ending.
The parts with the words/credits are pretty much a rip of the credits from "Enter The Void".
― Moodles, Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
he's a like a three stooges of all moes.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, January 24, 2011 11:03 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark
chortled p.hard at this
― on some outer space shit (bernard snowy), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
weirdly I was suddenly hit by the desire to listen to this album earlier today and had just started doing so when I opened the thread
did we eventually reach a consensus on whether Kanye's verses on "Gorgeous" are actually good or just seem that way in comparison to the rest of the album? I incline towards "actually good", although still roll my eyes at some of the punchlines ("This week's a bad massage, I need a happy ending")
― on some outer space shit (bernard snowy), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
O_____O rihanna
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
'All Of The Lights' sucks so much ass I imagine Kayne hacked at Rihanna's frock with a boxcutter to distract from exactly how much his song blows. Always my least favourite on the record.
― the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
lol it's basically the best song on the album
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Guess Kanye and Hype have been watching Enter The Void. Or they've seen the credits at least
― Number None, Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh i see Moodles already mentioned that
too much time on ilx files: on the first frame of the video w/ all the names my eyes immediately zeroed in on "jordan" with "keller" directly beneath it"
― some dude, Sunday, 20 February 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
did the "Monster" video ever officially drop? i remember hearing about teasers and an unfinished leak and thinking "i'll wait until the real thing's out to check for it" and never heard anything else about it.
― some dude, Sunday, 20 February 2011 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
He wears his influences a bit too boldly, but I guess subtlety is not this man's trademark.
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Sunday, 20 February 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
man you guys hyped up rihanna's thing too much, it's just like an outfit that shows her side-boob? gtfo
video's great overall tho!
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Sunday, 20 February 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
My jaw hit the floor when I saw Rihanna. I'm not sure it's moved back into place yet.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I like this video overall.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link
hate hate hate this video except for the Rihanna thing.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link
then again Hype Williams annoys me
gotta admit i'm surprised how humbly (?) kanye reacted to arcade fire winning the grammy. like, over-enthusiastic celebration... well, at least as much as i can surmise in a twitter feed. maybe the whole apology in this album is to be taken seriously?
.....
naww
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link
you really had me on the edge of my seat there
― teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Was Kanye supposed to be miffed at not winning a Grammy he wasn't up for?
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
my jaw hit the floor when i read kelpolaris' post -- thankfully it moved back into place when he revealed he was kidding
― teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link
this is a stupid question but would you say that "so appalled," structurally speaking, has two choruses? I couldn't decide if the chorus is "one hand in the air, if you don't really care..." or "champagne wishes, dirty white bitches" or if one of those parts is something else.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
i think of the "champagne wishes" part as the proper chorus and the "hand in the air" part as just an additional refrain swizz improvised over the song after a lot of the other stuff was done.
― some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
huh. the "one hand in the air" part seems more like a proper chorus in that it's more sonically distinct from the verses.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's def "thirty white bitches"
― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
that song is utter garbage tho
― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i keep telling myself that i'm wrong about kanYe and that i'll eventually come around to this album's brilliance. but after watching the 'all of the lights' video, hearing those godawful opening lines about MJ and that rocky theme song bullshit, i know im not wrong. who the fuck is this charlatan? dude's aesthetics are just so out of whack
― Paradife Loft (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
my hate for "All Of The Lights" has really blossomed since it's started getting radio play -- i can't believe he does the "i hold my head/ spent that bread" rhyme twice
the verses on that song are so bad
― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/40558382377082880#lol
― mamma mia pizzeroni (kelpolaris), Saturday, 26 February 2011 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone know why the official video for 'Monster' has been removed from the youtubes? I only find fan made vids and lo-quality clips.
Also: Jay-z's contribution makes me cringe everytime I hear it. Is there an edited version to be found without him?
― Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
How many fans of this album have since recanted?
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
1. Alfred, Lord Sotosyn2.
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I was firmly, joyously, unyieldingly in the hate column, ilxor.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
For a second I thought this was the REM thread and my head was spinning.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i have such high hopes that in 9 years we'll be looking back on this decade and marveling how much better hip hop got than this album, with or without Kanye's help
― Rovi Wade (some dude), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
but who will break it to SFJ?
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
ha i know sorry
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think this album is supposed to be a benchmark album for the genre... or is it? It's a good album but not precisely innovative or influential imho.
― Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
It had a spectral influence on certain critics.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
but who will break it to SFJ? SFJ, Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, PopMatters, EW, XXL, The Independent, and every other critical institution that has already inducted MBDTMDTBMFDMBTFBMFTDTMF into the canon?
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Fucking hideous mess.
― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Since this is hardly the first time a later album by an established artist has been hailed as an immediate classic, there's no reason to believe anyone will have to recant or "remove" it from the canon. As I kinda said upthread, you just put My Aim Is True in the Top 100 Of All Time a few years later and ignore that you gave a higher rating to Imperial Bedroom when it came out.
― da croupier, Friday, 4 March 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link