Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

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^^^who is this? xp

challopian youtubes (deej), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not paying for it all that much anyway cuz i'm rich, lol", which is probably (for me) the thing that keeps all the supposedly fascinating self-aware assholism from being dramatic or interesting.

i feel that this should be true, and am not sure why i find his "i'm not just a total asshole (sad), but a fabulously wealthy total asshole, so eat me" shtick so funny. it's not dramatic or interesting, but it amuses me. he's a like a three stooges of all moes.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Depends on how funny you find his lyrical and vocal pratfalls.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^who is this?

was wondering the same thing

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

a rock critic/generalist

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

xp -- yeah that "(for me)" wasn't boilerplate; i know that shtick is exactly what amuses/interests lots of people who love this album. the rapper i really liked this year was curren$y, who sits on his couch taking bong rips and eating ritz crackers while acting like he has fuck-you money. maybe i just liked him cuz that was my summer.

deej: i dunno, a guy?

difficult listening hour, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

also a rock critic/generalist

difficult listening hour, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

sigh the polite thing is to ask "who are you?" when the person is in the thread rather than talk about them as if they weren't there

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

point taken. hi DLH.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

hi!

(my name's theon and this is me.)

difficult listening hour, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, what up Theon! We met once. (I'm R0dney Gr3ene btw)

The Reverend, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

were you at EMP in '08, Rev? I think so. If yes, then you've met twice.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i remember the Rev at EMP 07 (hey!), but i don't remember much of anything from 08. i was distraught.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't remember bumping into him at the 08 EMP.

The Reverend, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

at the 07 EMP, you cheerfully asked me "so where are you from?" and i said "stylus magazine?" in an if-you've-heard-of-that voice, and you pointed at your nametag and said "um me too i meant where are you from" and i felt like a jackass

that whole trip was kind of a long series of social errors though. still awesome.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahaha. I completely forgot about that.

The Reverend, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

"stylus magazine?"

awesome answer, no snark

markers, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

why is everyone being all 'manners please!' around here lately? i didnt mean anything by it \oO/

anyway i think curren$y does have money! seems pretty likely

challopian youtubes (deej), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Hi, DLH! While we're all 'hello'ing, figured I'd throw in that you've been throwing truthbombs left right and centre for the past week or two.

Especially, this

intersection of this big social problem and this big specific ego had all the friction and weirdness and revelations of decent fiction. the reason i don't really like any of the writing on dark twisted fantasy is that as interaction with a world not constructed on his terms has become less and less necessary for this guy, his songs have become more neatly and completely about What It's Like To Be Kanye

which I've been struggling to articulate for a month or two now.

Alex in Montreal, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

stylus r.i.p., that was my favorite shit ever

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks alex! i struggled to articulate it for a couple months too; that was basically a transcription of a prepared speech.

curren$y definitely has more money than me but this thread's about kanye west -- and anyway all i meant was that the stuff curren$y brags about doing is often stuff any 22-year-old slacker could do with a day off and some weed money. (except for when he claims to be flying on planes where everyone is high, which i don't think he has enough money for.) he just acts like it's really awesome and rarefied. which it is!

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

weird that this thread was close by,

thinking about the ramones made me dislike this album even more, because it reminds me how much they accomplished with so little and how little this album accomplishes with so much

it's like the opposite of what hip hop meant to me, the way that an amazing beat and amazing rapper could really just knock you out.

smang a goon (get it on) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

h3lg brings *law*

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

kanyewest: I just threw some kazoo on this bitch

I know what he means but at first I imagined him flinging kazoos at some poor old lady

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa @ rihanna's outfit in the "all of the lights" video

http://www.vevo.com/watch/kanye-west/all-of-the-lights/USUV71002949

chilli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

re: video. no fergie, no cred.

Alex in Montreal, Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

video sucks, aside from rihanna's rack

teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't really like how they changed up the choruses and ending.

The parts with the words/credits are pretty much a rip of the credits from "Enter The Void".

Moodles, Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

he's a like a three stooges of all moes.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, January 24, 2011 11:03 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

chortled p.hard at this

on some outer space shit (bernard snowy), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

weirdly I was suddenly hit by the desire to listen to this album earlier today and had just started doing so when I opened the thread

did we eventually reach a consensus on whether Kanye's verses on "Gorgeous" are actually good or just seem that way in comparison to the rest of the album? I incline towards "actually good", although still roll my eyes at some of the punchlines ("This week's a bad massage, I need a happy ending")

on some outer space shit (bernard snowy), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

O_____O rihanna

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

'All Of The Lights' sucks so much ass I imagine Kayne hacked at Rihanna's frock with a boxcutter to distract from exactly how much his song blows. Always my least favourite on the record.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

lol it's basically the best song on the album

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Guess Kanye and Hype have been watching Enter The Void. Or they've seen the credits at least

Number None, Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh i see Moodles already mentioned that

Number None, Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

too much time on ilx files: on the first frame of the video w/ all the names my eyes immediately zeroed in on "jordan" with "keller" directly beneath it"

some dude, Sunday, 20 February 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

did the "Monster" video ever officially drop? i remember hearing about teasers and an unfinished leak and thinking "i'll wait until the real thing's out to check for it" and never heard anything else about it.

some dude, Sunday, 20 February 2011 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link

He wears his influences a bit too boldly, but I guess subtlety is not this man's trademark.

Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Sunday, 20 February 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

man you guys hyped up rihanna's thing too much, it's just like an outfit that shows her side-boob? gtfo

video's great overall tho!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Sunday, 20 February 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

My jaw hit the floor when I saw Rihanna. I'm not sure it's moved back into place yet.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I like this video overall.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link

hate hate hate this video except for the Rihanna thing.

Gukbe, Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link

then again Hype Williams annoys me

Gukbe, Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link

gotta admit i'm surprised how humbly (?) kanye reacted to arcade fire winning the grammy. like, over-enthusiastic celebration... well, at least as much as i can surmise in a twitter feed. maybe the whole apology in this album is to be taken seriously?

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naww

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link

you really had me on the edge of my seat there

teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Was Kanye supposed to be miffed at not winning a Grammy he wasn't up for?

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

my jaw hit the floor when i read kelpolaris' post -- thankfully it moved back into place when he revealed he was kidding

teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a stupid question but would you say that "so appalled," structurally speaking, has two choruses? I couldn't decide if the chorus is "one hand in the air, if you don't really care..." or "champagne wishes, dirty white bitches" or if one of those parts is something else.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i think of the "champagne wishes" part as the proper chorus and the "hand in the air" part as just an additional refrain swizz improvised over the song after a lot of the other stuff was done.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

huh. the "one hand in the air" part seems more like a proper chorus in that it's more sonically distinct from the verses.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link


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