ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

rap is a young man's game but it's rarely as young as 16. And it's hardly ever made by teenagers who come fully formed with such a defined aesthetic. Like, all I'm saying is, I'm not ready to dismiss Taco because I'm not 100% sure we've been shown what Taco can really do yet.

besides Puttin' On The Ritz

odd future wolf stan love them all

de la soul and ice cube were teens when they both debuted with some pretty fully formed aesthetics

if assholes u just come off like like an angry boring dick when u barge into a thread like "ok let me set it straight: 90% of this shit is worthless & i've got hundreds of people i've never even met before on facebook"

lol

i checked into Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All on FourSquare and was instantly made mayor because no one else wanted to be in a place so stupid and shitty

I just accept every friend request that comes in, really.

I'm not 'barging' - I've been active on the Earl thread. This one too, I think, upthread, but who can keep track, really.

I came here because I've been listening to thsi so much I think it's soundtracking my dreams right now. Sorry you disagree with my assessment and it's made you butt-hurt and territorial. If anything, I'm just going on record, because, like a lot of you, my first exposure to this I was all "OMG best shit ever, love of hip hop officially restored" and now I'm just sort of taking the time to take it all in and listen more critically.

And I still think it's pretty awesome.

"barge into" vs. "post in" (xp oh assport touched on that already nvm)

I mean I like these guys but I don't understand why they have to stand or fall as an entire crew? just seems like laziness/unwillingness to engage critically with something u love & are excited about

I'm just going on record, because, like a lot of you, my first exposure to this I was all "OMG best shit ever, love of hip hop officially restored"

Literally no one in this thread had a reaction nearly as hyperbolic or embarrassing as this or the one you posted in the Earl thread.

LOL embarrassing from a dude who's claim to fame is using the 'F' word at a sxsw conference or whatever

xpost That's correct, bernard, I see what you're saying. I mean, I'm firmly in the pro-OF camp here. I hope that's clear. I'm just saying that following a critical engagement with some shit I love and am excited about, patterns have emerged. I hope I don't ruffle any feathers for evoking the Wu again, God forbid, but I guess all I'm saying is that every crew has a few Cappadonnas for every Raekwon.

i don't even disagree rly i just found the way he phrased it kind of unnecessarily confrontational & self-righteously not befallen to hype & saw the zing opportunity & took it. for the record: earl is my favourite, tyler is my second favourite, those are the only two w/ imo very solid & unique personas/styles, the rest are all sort of a blur in my mind. sometimes some of the kids they let rap on their records are p bad at rapping, but idk i can let that slide p easily given the magnitude of their output & quality of production

^^^^ pretty much exactly what I said.

I'd probably make fun of your real life too if literally anyone knew who you were besides your cabal of imaginary facebook friends

dude, it's cool

xpost Funny - I don't recall interviewing YOU ever. :P

!

Anyway...still trying to figure out of I'm a dick for being prematurely dismissive, or a dick for being 'embarrassingly hyperbolic.'

I dig the idea of an overarching framework, but it just isn't original to me. Dudes have been mining the 'I"m troubled and suicidal and I'mma shock you now, look, I'm a cutter and shit" thing for a while now - Cage has made a career of it.

...this is like, cohesive albums are an unoriginal concept. your thing abt cage applies more to earl than tyler, who deepens a shock aesthetic into explicit teen alienation "our imagination are creations of these fucking situations". does this sound like tyler to u?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvvAOMmDHI

but u attach it to tyler bc u think it a disparaging association, how lazy and dishonest. and i think coming into a thread and dropping allusions to biggie wu tang in relation to something u happen to be digging is the kind of thing that gets rolling rap dudes tagged as "unwelcoming",

I never said it was a disparaging association - you ascribed that all by yourself. As it happens, I dig Cage - more his recent Mike-Muir-as-emo-rapper style than the irrelevant freestyle you just linked to which is probably older than half the people who post here.

Tyler's album kinda reminds me of Cage's last two. That's all I was saying.

it just isn't original to me. Dudes have been mining the 'I"m troubled and suicidal and I'mma shock you now, look, I'm a cutter and shit" thing for a while now

sorry i took this as disparaging somehow ;)

B-b-but I love the 'I'm troubled and suicidal and I'mma shock you now, look, I'm a cutter and shit' thing! :)

man that cage freestyle is so dope. haftime is like the best beat ever

i be bastard mastered in humanity
punks pack but i pistol harder ni**as randomly

Cage said the n-word like three times in that, what the fuck

basically if u show up on an ilm thread three months late being all like "i have OPINIONS 4 u!" u gonna get clowned a bit most likely.

^^

he says nigga, let's call that "the other n-word" or something just so we don't equate a term that stands in for any male person in a lot of hip hop with "nigger". not saying there's no issues with that word ever but c'mon

i'm not saying Cage is Mel Gibson, I'm saying he's a dumbass

"but c'mon it's sometimes ok for white ppl to say the n-word"

wow rapper Cage said something shocking

or did something dumb

xp Three months late, reppin' for these dudes for months, you know, either way. Wasn't aware I was 'clowned.' How was I 'clowned,' exactly, destroyer? Oh, right by reviving a popular thread, no wait, 'showing up and being all like 'i have OPINIONS 4 u!', aka, umm, ILX.

or whatever it is that whiney's wtf-ing about

I knew a lotta white rappers back in the day and they all used that word among rappers that weren't white. Not excusing it, just sayin.'

"but c'mon it's sometimes ok for white ppl to say the n-word"

― Fuckin' perfect. Like Marilyn Chamberz perfect (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, January 23, 2011

lol i know u aren't stupid so i have no idea why u took the time to type this. just hitting the whiney soundboard randomly i guess. but i will say it's certainly not up to whiney g to decree absolutely it was never ok for whites or hispanics to say nigga

yeah i was the def the guy who invented that it's not cool for white people to say the n-word

sorry, white people!

zvookster please give me your annotated list of when it's ok for white people to say the n-word, and make #1 "when kicking a dope freestyle"

i think the wu comparison works to whiney's favour actually. it took 10 years for every wu member to make a solo album. and dudes were mostly around 25 - 30 when they did. if you want to compare earl to anyone, look more for shyheim aka da rugged child. shyheim never got as close to thw wu as he should have and without anyone to keep him going with a bit of direction, never really went anywhere. now these dudes are 10 years younger than the wu were. we never really heard their early demos before they got deals with rca and loud. The one thing that sticks out, Words from the Genius is fucking lame. Earl, Bastard, Blackenedwhite are a league apart from the Genius Cold Chillin' record. And they have their own RZA in Tyler trying to keep them in check, less obsession with drugs to fuck them up, I heard they signed with XL a label known for getting the best out of promising acts...

Basically calm the fuck down, these dudes could comes to something special - even the ones who you are dismissing before they've even released their first real tumblr post.

thread has gone terribly wrong

4real

whiney is this because i called your corny samples thread bad? lmao

when k3vin said u were spazzing in the gucci thread bc your jay-z/kanye thread got dissed i thought at first u couldn't possibly that sort of grudge-holding nerd, but he was otm. suddenly have a looot more sympathy for deej!!

what board is good for a "the Whiney soundboard" c&p metathread btw?

also btw, lol @ calling earl's release "in the tradition of life after death and 36 chambers" and calling a late 90s fondle em freestyle complete with eminem ref "irrelevant"

lol no one is holding a grudge, i just want to know why you think it's somehow OK for cage to say the n-word in a freestyle!

c&p where u think i'm saying that, please

but i will say it's certainly not up to whiney g to decree absolutely it was never ok for whites or hispanics to say nigga

― zvookster, Sunday, January 23, 2011 4:20 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's certainly not up to zvookster to decree it was never ok to buttfuck a pygmy goat on the A train, but i think we can all agree that's not OK and not worth picking a fight over?

^definitely not butthurt

it's certainly not up to zvookster to decree it was never ok to buttfuck a pygmy goat on the A train, but i think we can all agree that's not OK and not worth picking a fight over?

not sure wolf gang would agree tbh