ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

cool post thx dawg

all the tyler & earl tracks slay + session is cool, so idk what posse cuts yr talking abt

bastard has an overarching framework that makes it hang together as an album whereas earl is barely a record, 'just' 25 mins of dope loose tracks

seems to me that mellowhype & domo have their charms

Who would think that a group of teenagers who released 12 albums in a year would have some that vary in quality

PS I posted 'ofwgkta!' as my Facebook status the other day and it went 103 posts before I deleted it. Dudes were calling each other douchebags, hipsters, making threats...

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good work namechecking biggie, wu tang and theodore unit for no reason in such a short post tho

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I posted 'ofwgkta!' as my Facebook status the other day and it went 103 posts before I deleted it.

man tyler is such a great rapper. i feel like he's improved? my faves are his verses are on blackenedwhite (when i saw wolfgang you say fuck that/room full of wolves inhalers & used blunt raps) also looove his verse on fuck the police. definitely two of my favourites verses of the year. i like the character stuff & wolf haley interplay plus such dense rhymes spit so mean yet so nonchalant & graceful (houston we have a ni**er down and the ni**er that did it loves them gun sounds/bust triple six rounds now thats six cops found on that ground)

Wasn't bragging - didn't know half the cats on there posting. It just got outta hand. I was just trying to sorta illustrate how divisive this shit is. But, you know, whatever.

zvook - "Session" was what I was thinking about. Domo and Hodgy are ok, but who the hell are Jasper, Taco, Casey Veggies, Vince Staples, etc? Some of these fools are sub-Ice T's Syndicate. I can't hang with 15 tracks of Tyler, either, dude just doesn't have the lyrics or the flow to sustain an album IMHO. I dig the idea of an overarching framework, but it just isn't original to me. Dudes have been mining the 'I"m troubled and suicidal and I'mma shock you now, look, I'm a cutter and shit" thing for a while now - Cage has made a career of it.

Earl, to me, is something special. "How the fuck I fit a axe in a satchel?" LOL

As for Biggie etc - I think there's plenty of reason to name-check dudes who've made hip hop classics (and, err, Theodore Unit) when discussing a dude who has the potential to make one in 2011. Just sayin.'

oh my god, they've been a band for like a year, wait for the other dudes to come up or like turn 20 before dismissing them entirely for fuck's sake.

I'M SO OVER THIS BAND I'VE HEARD OF FOUR MONTHS AGO, THEY REALLY NEED TO STEP THEIR GAME UP

yeah heaven forbid that ppl evaluate music that exists here and now instead of judging artists entirely on their potential

Yeah, I was gonna say. BTW I'm dismissing them entirely while listening to nothing but for the past 48 hours.

Also, seems like hip hop's a young man's game - you bought a Jeru or a Black Moon album recently? - and so if cats are putting this shit out, why not judge it on its merits instead of trying to justify the (occasional) wackness?

I can see Whiney in like '91 - "I don't know, I think these Da Youngstas' best days are ahead of 'em. Illegal, too. Give 'em a chance, fellas."

rap is a young man's game but it's rarely as young as 16. And it's hardly ever made by teenagers who come fully formed with such a defined aesthetic. Like, all I'm saying is, I'm not ready to dismiss Taco because I'm not 100% sure we've been shown what Taco can really do yet.

besides Puttin' On The Ritz

odd future wolf stan love them all

de la soul and ice cube were teens when they both debuted with some pretty fully formed aesthetics

if assholes u just come off like like an angry boring dick when u barge into a thread like "ok let me set it straight: 90% of this shit is worthless & i've got hundreds of people i've never even met before on facebook"

lol

i checked into Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All on FourSquare and was instantly made mayor because no one else wanted to be in a place so stupid and shitty

I just accept every friend request that comes in, really.

I'm not 'barging' - I've been active on the Earl thread. This one too, I think, upthread, but who can keep track, really.

I came here because I've been listening to thsi so much I think it's soundtracking my dreams right now. Sorry you disagree with my assessment and it's made you butt-hurt and territorial. If anything, I'm just going on record, because, like a lot of you, my first exposure to this I was all "OMG best shit ever, love of hip hop officially restored" and now I'm just sort of taking the time to take it all in and listen more critically.

And I still think it's pretty awesome.

"barge into" vs. "post in" (xp oh assport touched on that already nvm)

I mean I like these guys but I don't understand why they have to stand or fall as an entire crew? just seems like laziness/unwillingness to engage critically with something u love & are excited about

I'm just going on record, because, like a lot of you, my first exposure to this I was all "OMG best shit ever, love of hip hop officially restored"

Literally no one in this thread had a reaction nearly as hyperbolic or embarrassing as this or the one you posted in the Earl thread.

LOL embarrassing from a dude who's claim to fame is using the 'F' word at a sxsw conference or whatever

xpost That's correct, bernard, I see what you're saying. I mean, I'm firmly in the pro-OF camp here. I hope that's clear. I'm just saying that following a critical engagement with some shit I love and am excited about, patterns have emerged. I hope I don't ruffle any feathers for evoking the Wu again, God forbid, but I guess all I'm saying is that every crew has a few Cappadonnas for every Raekwon.

i don't even disagree rly i just found the way he phrased it kind of unnecessarily confrontational & self-righteously not befallen to hype & saw the zing opportunity & took it. for the record: earl is my favourite, tyler is my second favourite, those are the only two w/ imo very solid & unique personas/styles, the rest are all sort of a blur in my mind. sometimes some of the kids they let rap on their records are p bad at rapping, but idk i can let that slide p easily given the magnitude of their output & quality of production

^^^^ pretty much exactly what I said.

I'd probably make fun of your real life too if literally anyone knew who you were besides your cabal of imaginary facebook friends

dude, it's cool

xpost Funny - I don't recall interviewing YOU ever. :P

!

Anyway...still trying to figure out of I'm a dick for being prematurely dismissive, or a dick for being 'embarrassingly hyperbolic.'

I dig the idea of an overarching framework, but it just isn't original to me. Dudes have been mining the 'I"m troubled and suicidal and I'mma shock you now, look, I'm a cutter and shit" thing for a while now - Cage has made a career of it.

...this is like, cohesive albums are an unoriginal concept. your thing abt cage applies more to earl than tyler, who deepens a shock aesthetic into explicit teen alienation "our imagination are creations of these fucking situations". does this sound like tyler to u?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvvAOMmDHI

but u attach it to tyler bc u think it a disparaging association, how lazy and dishonest. and i think coming into a thread and dropping allusions to biggie wu tang in relation to something u happen to be digging is the kind of thing that gets rolling rap dudes tagged as "unwelcoming",

I never said it was a disparaging association - you ascribed that all by yourself. As it happens, I dig Cage - more his recent Mike-Muir-as-emo-rapper style than the irrelevant freestyle you just linked to which is probably older than half the people who post here.

Tyler's album kinda reminds me of Cage's last two. That's all I was saying.

it just isn't original to me. Dudes have been mining the 'I"m troubled and suicidal and I'mma shock you now, look, I'm a cutter and shit" thing for a while now

sorry i took this as disparaging somehow ;)

B-b-but I love the 'I'm troubled and suicidal and I'mma shock you now, look, I'm a cutter and shit' thing! :)

man that cage freestyle is so dope. haftime is like the best beat ever

i be bastard mastered in humanity
punks pack but i pistol harder ni**as randomly

Cage said the n-word like three times in that, what the fuck

basically if u show up on an ilm thread three months late being all like "i have OPINIONS 4 u!" u gonna get clowned a bit most likely.

^^

he says nigga, let's call that "the other n-word" or something just so we don't equate a term that stands in for any male person in a lot of hip hop with "nigger". not saying there's no issues with that word ever but c'mon

i'm not saying Cage is Mel Gibson, I'm saying he's a dumbass

"but c'mon it's sometimes ok for white ppl to say the n-word"

wow rapper Cage said something shocking

or did something dumb

xp Three months late, reppin' for these dudes for months, you know, either way. Wasn't aware I was 'clowned.' How was I 'clowned,' exactly, destroyer? Oh, right by reviving a popular thread, no wait, 'showing up and being all like 'i have OPINIONS 4 u!', aka, umm, ILX.

or whatever it is that whiney's wtf-ing about

I knew a lotta white rappers back in the day and they all used that word among rappers that weren't white. Not excusing it, just sayin.'

"but c'mon it's sometimes ok for white ppl to say the n-word"

― Fuckin' perfect. Like Marilyn Chamberz perfect (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, January 23, 2011

lol i know u aren't stupid so i have no idea why u took the time to type this. just hitting the whiney soundboard randomly i guess. but i will say it's certainly not up to whiney g to decree absolutely it was never ok for whites or hispanics to say nigga