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forgot about Underground Lovers...

wasn't Clear Skin a 4AD release?

henry s, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

TU7 cat no. = "Temporary" Guernica release. the last, to date.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 24 August 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

guess LMB wasn't a re-release. first issue was in the UK, on Guernica. released in Australia on Polydor later that year ('94). i must have been thinking about the US version of Dream it Down, which IIRC swapped out four new tracks for LMB tracks.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 24 August 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

I managed to finally hear this record. I remember when it came out because I had a friend who was really into 4AD and basically bought everything they released during this period, but he never managed to acquire this one. A lot of stuff on the label at the time managed to sound gothy even when it wasn't trying to (cf., the first couple of HNIA records).

It's a good record and the production on it sounds exactly like an AR Kane record. I especially like how they recorded the drum machines and the sampled loop of wobbly cymbals on the final track is esp. nice. My only complaint is that the vocals do kind of get in the way a little bit. I prefer them on the tracks where they are more buried in the mix even though the bjork-ish phrasing is a little irritating also. I think I will mostly get beyond these criticisms on a few repeat listenings though. This one is a grower, as they say.

Guernica put out a special edition of Unrest's Imperial FFRR in the UK and Europe if I recall.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, now I remember - the first Guernica wave was late '92 - Unrest (who subsequently released stuff on 4AD proper), Underground Lovers, Bettie Serveert (two of those were reissues or licensing things from other labels - maybe all of 'em); then Spoonfed/Insides/That Dog in '93, then the Insides one-off in mid-'94. I bought 'em on vinyl because you got a free 7" with the LPs (obv "Clear Skin" was CD only).

Michael Jones, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

This record is excruciatingly beautiful. Like huddling under heavy blankets, sweating, turned on, listening to someone tell you their darkest thoughts. It makes me sad that so few answered this poll or responded to this thread, but it makes sense. It's just such a private record, almost embarassingly so, and in fact I just realized I don't think I've ever shared my love of this record with anyone else. Even listening to it makes me feel almost uncomfortably vulnerable. I love it.

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

Clarke B?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

It's me! Hey Ned... "Long time" would be an understatement.

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

Yes indeed, you drunken sommelier. :-D How's that all going?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

Well, I'm still up in Brooklyn, working for the French portfolio of a small-ish wine importer, and really enjoying my work. For a while I was so immersed in wine, and trying to catch myself up in terms of knowledge and experience, that I feel like my other interests dropped off a bit... But I suppose balance beckons to be restored, and so I find myself on my couch on a humid Sunday night, reading ILM and thinking about this beautiful, beautiful album. :-)

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

And a fine choice of album indeed. I haven't listened to it in a bit and will do so now.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

What did you think, Ned? ("Darling Effect" would have to be my favorite.)

Clarke, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

"Distractions" sounds like "Love To Stay" by Altered Images

Nubly, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Digging around I found the few non-album songs by Earwig, Insides' immediate predecessor, that I didn't have on their own one album, Under My Skin I Am Laughing. (Most of the B-sides/singles got collected on a compilation, Past, but I've still never been able to find a copy of that.) Mixed batch but I like them, you can hear them being a louder 'rock' band as such early on.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 01:07 (sixteen years ago)

I had a copy of Past, the only copy I've ever seen, and I accidentally sold it back to Amoeba last year in a box along with a ton of other things. I went back to find it later that week and it was nowhere to be found. That said, despite the scarcity of it, I didn't find it that great; Under my Skin was much much better.

akm, Monday, 7 December 2009 05:17 (sixteen years ago)

Agreed, the singles are more woodshedding than anything else. But you can hear them start to settle on a sound as they go.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

looking at this:

http://eil.com/Shop/ExtSearch.asp?DiscArtist=Earwig

all three of those ep covers look very familiar but i could've sworn i was missing one. or maybe i'm missing a 4th ep. ah, yes, the Every Day Shines 12".

there was also an insides promo 12" with clear skin remixes on it that i found cheap in notting hill but my copy of which i think jumps. (Eyesore DB says GUP4)

as mike said i went to the label launch (Borderline (Break For The Border?), London, same place i saw UVS and that first B&S gig) where insides played two sets, the first of which became Clear Skin. mesmerising to the point where you had to remember to breathe. years later i heard steve reich and the spell was somewhat broken but hey...

koogs, Monday, 7 December 2009 11:08 (sixteen years ago)

there was also an insides promo 12" with clear skin remixes on it

! Now that I'd love to hear.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

Actually somehow I had missed that the original release of Euphoria had a separate 7" single as well.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

> Now that I'd love to hear.

if only someone had, say, posted it on an mp3 blog (and on my birthday too)

http://theblackenedair.blogspot.com/2009/10/insides-clear-skin-promo.html

koogs, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

Astounding.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

And thanks!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

Wow thanks Koogs!

I still have never heard the Earwig album or Clear Skin itself, appallingly.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:14 (sixteen years ago)

Good lord, man.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:26 (sixteen years ago)

Ha I know - it actually feels vaguely shameful considering how important Euphoria has been to me for so long.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:29 (sixteen years ago)

Me on Under My Skin from ten years back:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/1999/02/earwig/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

Ned I've been imagining the record ever since I read your review ten years ago! That was the first I'd heard of it - I think i actually picked up Euphoria that year due to all the cross-references with Disco Inferno, Bark Psychosis etc.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

cross-references on a.m.a. I mean.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

Something really needs to be done about this! And that sounds like something that would be cross-referenced on a.m.a. that way...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

tim i have clear skin, if i can track down the cd in my many boxes i will set it aside for you

an error has occurred (electricsound), Monday, 7 December 2009 22:47 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks Jim! No pressure though, I know what scouring through boxes of CDs is like...

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_QYRtOGRVU

so sick

rionat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:10 (sixteen years ago)

i hate lovers
i hate the way they go to the bathroom
in shifts
after
they fuck

rionat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:14 (sixteen years ago)

Possibly my favorite song by them, definitely my favorite lyric.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 January 2010 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

huh.

http://www.animalsonwheels.co.uk/index.php/2010/08/16/a-new-old-tune/#content

original bgm, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:14 (fifteen years ago)

Good find!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:20 (fifteen years ago)

thanks!

pretty good track. very 90s idm. which, um, makes sense.

original bgm, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:35 (fifteen years ago)

only 3 votes in the original poll makes me sad, but I guess this album is kind of the definition of a hidden gem--as much as I love it, I wouldn't play it for just anyone.

rob, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

i played "Relentless" once extremely late at a house party a while ago, like Sunday afternoon late, about 6 or 7 people in the room just dancing and chatting and drinking, it went down well I think though admittedly I just wanted to hear it myself

this album means so much to me but I still haven't heard Clear Skin

Snámh dá Én (missingNO), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:55 (fifteen years ago)

I just got into this in the last two years. Prefer Clear Skin to Euphoria. Got the canadian? cd ep off Amazon or Discogs recently for a buck or two. Reminds me of Reich in places.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 03:21 (fifteen years ago)

It seems I have the mp3s for the Clear Skin promo too. They also had a track on one of the Volume comps.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 03:30 (fifteen years ago)

Never understood the hoopla for this album - always seemed like a more boring Laika

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 08:22 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

Hurrah Neil Kulkarni once more:

http://thequietus.com/articles/07267-the-euphoria-of-insides

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

Some full-throated poptimism there at the start too!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

Not much of a Mogwai fan I take it?

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

Those American bands I did care about that got called ‘post-rock’ always had too much of an obsession with melody and rhythm going on to ever be called anything other than pop (Bowery Electric, Jessamine, Labradford, Windy & Carl)

Uh...

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

I should tell Windy and Carl about that, actually...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

Coincidentally, I was humming a Labradford song only yesterday.

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

I think it was the one that started on middle C. And stayed there for the next five minutes.

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

Missed the Kulkarni feature at the time but just caught up, I hadn't realised They had another band before Insides. The music seems to be legally available here:

http://earwiguk.bandcamp.com/

I Need Feel is an amazing track.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

don't know if she was joking, but it sounded a bit too random to not be true!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:39 (five years ago)

I thought Earwig had got decent reviews at the time they were around so somewhat surprised to hear that. I think I picked up Euphoria after the fact so assume I had seen good reviews of it. Thinking it must have been a cheap cd shop in Dublin in the late 90s.
Thought it got some recognition at the time.

Stevolende, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:40 (five years ago)

I don't remember the shows being *completely* empty the few times I saw Earwig, although they were in little places like the Camden Falcon. Not saying anecdote is... unbelievable.

Noel Emits, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:53 (five years ago)

I just.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:54 (five years ago)

Lol, Nick, you missed the punchline on the joke. After Kirtsy said that the only person who saw one of their shows was the guy from EMF, there was a brief pause before the follow on…

…drumroll…

“Unbelievable.”

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:07 (five years ago)

but i wanted to believe!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:34 (five years ago)

good long interview: https://toneglow.substack.com/p/048-insides

adam, Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:21 (five years ago)

Great interview! Nice to see some discussion of Sweet Tiptoo, which is a charming record really

technopolis, Thursday, 21 January 2021 07:51 (five years ago)

I was in a bad mood the other day.

Glad I bought "Soft Bonds", glad I stumped up for the live show (which I think is available for £6.60 until tomorrow). Always thought they were brilliant ("Euphoria" is comfortably *Top 5*) but they seem lovely, too.

djh, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:29 (five years ago)

four months pass...

All aware of this:

https://music.heavenslathe.co.uk/album/crumb-dropper?token=EC-54113655M49928549

100 only but copies currently available.

djh, Friday, 4 June 2021 18:11 (five years ago)

four months pass...

^ Digital version of this available from Friday, apparently.

djh, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:23 (four years ago)

five months pass...

both records £10 on bandcamp for bandcamp friday

im zelenky (||||||||), Friday, 1 April 2022 07:19 (four years ago)

excellent, I can finally get a vinyl copy of Euphoria

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 1 April 2022 07:27 (four years ago)

one year passes...

hey

It’s about time we started posting about this because l👀k ⬇️

Doors at 7, ends at 10. We’re doing a full set. All the rest of it. Look at the art. Smooch to the music. Forget your summer holiday. A FIVER?!https://t.co/s9zeoRdUkr pic.twitter.com/RrSRxeXWSp

— INSIDES (@Insides__) June 30, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:03 (two years ago)

Classically it is on a train strike day!

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:27 (two years ago)

oh no wayyy! was definitely thinking about going

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Saturday, 1 July 2023 07:08 (two years ago)

three months pass...

I've been listening to a.s.o. and they're giving me Insides vibes in how moody and atmospheric it sounds, more on the trip hop style, but still. Very introspective avant pop, to give it a name. The lyrics are worth paying attention to, as well.
https://itsaso.bandcamp.com/album/a-s-o

chinchilla, Saturday, 28 October 2023 10:07 (two years ago)

two years pass...

Delighted to see both this and Clear Skin now on Bandcamp!

https://insides1.bandcamp.com/album/euphoria-1

https://insides1.bandcamp.com/album/clear-skin

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 December 2025 21:30 (six months ago)

I need to get around to listening to the non-4AD albums.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 4 December 2025 21:32 (six months ago)

Yeah you punk. Er wait.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 December 2025 21:34 (six months ago)

I got promo copies of both the above records at my college radio station 32 years ago, loved them and played tracks off Euphoria on my show (tough to do Clear Skin), and even spent what little student money I had to buy the CD. I just assumed they were a brilliant one off then only just relatively recently discovered they have more records—albeit at a one a decade pace.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 4 December 2025 22:54 (six months ago)

Given this thread has been revived, I'm gonna take the opportunity to cross-refer to Sophia Hansen-Knarhoi's Undertow, which ivy put me onto, and which reminds me of Euphoria in its tenderly delivered absolute bleakness - as if an entire aesthetic was spun out of the opening stretch of "Darling Effect.

Tim F, Friday, 5 December 2025 03:54 (six months ago)

Oh yeah? Well into my Bandcamp Friday cart that'll go, then!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 December 2025 16:10 (six months ago)

nice to see that they've embraced Clear Skin as I recall it was something they initially didn't want to release

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 5 December 2025 16:23 (six months ago)

now if we could get a proper pressing of the Skinned Clean/Further Distractions remixes...

henry s, Friday, 5 December 2025 16:44 (six months ago)

~undressing for doctors is still undressing for strangers~

Ubiquitor, Friday, 5 December 2025 18:48 (six months ago)

akm, as I remember it the issue with Clear Skin is that the label put out some remixed/edited versions on 12" without their sing-off. Which is a shame because I think they are pretty good: https://www.discogs.com/release/248365-Insides-Clear-Skin

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 6 December 2025 12:14 (six months ago)

*sign-off

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 6 December 2025 12:14 (six months ago)


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