the nu-pigfuck

cockcleaner EP = this shouldn't be so hard to like. just six songs; four of them under two minutes each. fairly decent (and decently sized) big black-minus-roland guitar and drum churn. hey, i lived in the midwest in the '80s, i'm allowed to be nostalgic about that stupid kinda pigfuck shit. (the typography and album art even look like big black. though the "without the roland" would be better WITH the roland -- maybe this is rapeman or shellac nostalgia rather than big black nostalgia*? haven't listened to a rapeman or shellac record in eons, so i have no idea.) but the vocals are rigid and humorless, and unlike albini's in big black they don't push the songs into your face, and mixing them so low makes them even more annoying. fuck it.

* -- CD insert thing also compares them to flipper, which is baloney. are pissed jeans this shitty, too? if so, i'm not missing anything.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 6th, 2006.

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oops, CLOCKCLEANER. (Guess their cocks are still dirty.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 6th, 2006.

In other news, I have decided that I sort of like Pissed Jeans. The 12-inch EP on their own label is better than the Subpop 45, though.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), September 15th, 2006.

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(Though then again, the people who compare Pissed Jeans to Flipper really overstate things. They're nowhere near that good. Possibly as good as Scratch Acid or Killdozer though, which is no insult. I guess the people who say Flipper are concentrating on their guitar sound, and the fact that their lyrics about being sick and desiring boring girls and cigarette butts on the ground at the mall and being ashamed of their own cum and having an ugly twin seem to have some semblance of vulnerabilty and neurosis [the substance, not the band] and heart to them. Which is good. But Flipper were a way catchier.)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), September 15th, 2006.

and clockcleaner's great, esp. live. i don't think the 7" or the lp do them justice. they have a 6 song demo for new stuff that totally blows the earlier stuff out of the water.

Giddy Motors: paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=286
Rabies Caste: paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=253
Totimoshi: paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=285

Tho, they're all more T&G style noize-rock than neo pigfuck.

although they are friends of mine, I think STNNNG is operating at about as high a level both recording wise and live as any currently active band...for me at least...they had their CD release party for their new CD yesterday at the 7th St. Entry....Shellac actually came up for Chicago for the all-age early show to be a surprise opener, I know Albini and Weston are big fans....I just heard that Shannon Selberg from the Cows was up front watching right in front of the stage for the entire late show...so they seem to have the stamp of approval from some of the big wigs in the genre...

but yeah anyway their new album Fake Fake is really specular...as is their one from last year, Dignified Sissy (scott I believe I sent you a copy once, not sure if you liked it or listened to it, but I think they are well worth checking out...

http://www.myspace.com/stnnng

has some traxx, including one - hybrid animal - off the first album.

if you have a chance to see them, they are absolutely killer live.

the band i was in got a lot of jesus lizard comparisons... i think i'll spare myself the embarassment.

amrep resurgences have been around for sure. start with vaz or arab on radar. (vaz are ex-amrep.)

also, today is the day = amrep. (the good records at least.) and the daughters latest is very amrep noise rock.

battleship are great, but the clear sound of the bass thumps align differently.

not all t&g = pigfuck right?

fuck embarassment, here, the band i was in:
http://www.myspace.com/noparty "reclusive"
those vocals are not me. my vox were way more nerd weird. songs about magic the gathering, d&d, rock crit, and the alphabet but to this toughish music. this new singer guy was all pals with unsane and all and wrote more disturbing lyrics. insert laff track.

rambling aside... pigfuck to me has more 'tude than anything, right? not so much the quantity of distortion in your bass's hoo haw, but the amount of toilet floor lint on your teeth.
m.

it's longer than 20 minutes! and it's an lp, dude. can't wait to hear the next one (which afaik has been recorded - not sure about mixed or mastered yet).

for nu-Am Rep, I like The Blind Shake a lot...their album came out last year....they have now partnered up with Michael Yonkers and have an album coming out of new Yonkers songs where they are his backing band....heard a song off it, and it sounds fucking devastatin' percolatin'....

http://www.myspace.com/theblindshake

heard good things about stnng, will check 'em out.

Yow, that actually sounds more interesting to me than Pissed Jeans, or pigfuck (nu- or old-skool) in general, despite my affection for the Stunning and some of what I suppose could count as PROTO-pigfuck (per xhuxk above -- Flipper esp). Cheers.

absolutely DESTROYED the triple rock last time i saw them live.

YEAH I HEARD ALL ABOUT IT. >:(

STEVEN TYLER AND DAMO SUZUKI SAT IN WITH THE BAND!

ALLAN HOLDSWORTH AND ROBERT FRIPP HAD A GUITAR DUEL BETWEEN SETS!

SUPRISE OPENER: N.W.A. REUNION!

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Yeah. Never seen the Ex before. I am what you might call "stoked."

http://www.myspace.com/huntinglodge

Guess not.

without naming any names it's a nice change of pace from what had heretofore dominated philly's indie scene. but yeah, "why now...and why so much?" has been kicking around in my head too.

[this geisha record is mellowing out right now; i think i liked the microwaves disc a little better. in any case, this is great preparatory music for a house inspection around noon today. then i'll be singing about caulk and whatnot.]

this geisha record really comes back around fwiw.

http://www.southern.net/southern/band/VOLTT/EOM23.php

Tractor Sex Fatality were working this angle a couple years back, as documented on the excellent "Black Magic, White Pussy" LP, but they've streamlined their sound/membership since.

What about Todd? More ex-Hammerhead stuff that's right in line with the soundz of yore. Nowhere near as interesting/catchy as Vaz, but funier, and they arguably rock harder.

I'm kinda questioning the "pigfuck" nameplate, too. While I hear a lot of bands aping the sound of late 80s Midwest post-hardcore, I don't see the same kind of confrontationalist creativity. If there are pigs present, they aren't really getting properly fucked.

I am loving Stnnng right now.

Also thinking: Was grunge just what they called pig fuck in Seattle in 1990?

grunge was what we called pigfuck in 86 - by 90 it was something else

in the 80s grunge was anything with dirty/heavy gtrs... kilslug, dinosaur's 1st album, scientists.

seattle grunge was pigfuck minus the filth, desperation, & degradation. they took the sound but dropped the demented arty flourishes, being generally more trad in their rock styling. tad and the thrown ups were the closest seattle got to pigfuck.

I guess it starts looking like splitting hairs and narcissism of small differences if you weren't there, but at the time these equations were pretty clear:

sub pop 100 = pigfuck
sub pop 200 = grunge

Mayyors ftw

can't wait till the tinsel teeth album drops next year, I get heavy T&G flashbacks from that crew

I don't get the controversy, plenty of musicians have done horrible/unforgivable things

I can understand not wanting to be in a BAND with a particularly objectionable person cuz that's a level of personal connection that could get pretty uncomfortable

or is this community just SO SMALL that everyone involves feels personally responsible for everybody else...?

i think it's that punk rock is an actual COMMUNITY that most of us are a part of; and not just a bunch of people gawking at R. Kelly or Mystikal or Phil Spector from afar

really fucked up situation.

erect the youth problem by wives is a killer record.

i think it's that punk rock is an actual COMMUNITY that most of us are a part of; and not just a bunch of people gawking at R. Kelly or Mystikal or Phil Spector from afar

― sodamrongerbot (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, March 26, 2010 11:28 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i agree; a lot of the pressure/responsibility being thrown around is on a friend-basis. it's really weird that it's mostly playing out on the internet, but i guess it would be like if some regular ILXor did something really bad like this.

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um not sure i get it

but bleh what a morass

it's probably for the best they broke up, writing or talking about or even going to the record store to buy their new record (if it even gets released) it will be forever awkward. i certainly won't be smashing my drunkdriver records any time soon, but it's a weird space between not wanting to say something off-colour about a rape and being sad one of your favourite bands broke up.

Though I pretty much think at this point, no one is gonna touch it with a 10-foot pole.

in some ways this is a real shame, especially for the rest of the band. blegh this is weird.

so, uh, ed, where in brooklyn??? i'll come i think.

awesome!

it's at some place called shea stadium

show starts @ 9, tinsel teeth going on 4th

I got some load records distro vinyl w/ me

ok scratch that

tinsel van broke down in PA

we're not making the brooklyn show

pigfucked in PA. bummer.

is the dd album still coming out? or has it already, i've lost track

― facepalm death (samosa gibreel), Friday, March 26, 2010 3:35 PM (1 week ago)

parts unknown is putting it out

get ready rubberneckers

will probably be my album of the year if the song they had up on load myspace is any indication. i always dreamed of a louder, less blown out lo-fi drunnkdriver and now my dream is going to come true.

in the mean time i'm anticipating the new twin stumps

dd leaked & is currently kicking my ass

tinsel teeth album drops tomorrow

i'll keep an eye out for that, they were rad openning for chinese stars last summer.

not pigfuck per se, but dope body's 'natural history' is giving me some cows/jesus lizard vibes - along with some flipper/melvins plodding along the way - and helmet's notion of groove.

tho, in this case the confrontational posture of some of these bands is put aside for some welcoming goofiness...

think this type of stuff got subsumed into the rolling punk threads

rolling punk/non-indie underground 2012

but yeah dope body is rad

The White Suns rekkid on Load is the best nu-pigfuck of 2012

ok, thx. i never payed that much attention to that thread, tbh. always thought about it more in terms of punkier or indier efforts - dunno, iceage, king tuff or nu sensae.

dope body record rules.

just remembered 90s florida band load, sounded like karp and cherubs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TimaHlPv31I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9zBHU1PCCo